Duralast ratchet bait and switch with inside pics

[Crappycivic]

It's because somewhere along the GJ line the Duralast got this reputation for being some finely crafted piece of bolt turning equipment. I hear the Duralast ratchet is forged in heaven by angels using beams of sunshine and quenched in holy water.(in heaven it's just called water though)

I think someone's just jealous they paid too much for their ****-on.

Oops typo, I mean snap-on

 

[Ritter4.0]

Did you make a composite ratchet?

It was for a class I took last semester, its plastic, so pretty much a composite. Here's a link to the thread for it:

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=135679&highlight=Duralast+snap+expensive

 

[Case]

I think someone's just jealous they paid too much for their ****-on.

Oops typo, I mean snap-on

and someones jealous they dont have a job that pays them enough to afford snap on

ooo i hit 300post

 

[Crappycivic]

Haha you're right, 25-30 dollars bi weekly is about my tool purchasing budget! But even if I did I wouldnt be buying 100 dollar ratchets

 

[RangerDaleXp]

Have you read his review? It really is a clone. This is not a matter of opinion. Look at the pics! BTW it is pretty well known that the Asians have mastered the art of cloning so this shouldn't come as a surprise.

Yes I did read his review and it is very informative.....

 

[stricht8]

You get what you pay for. SO is the real deal.

 

[Ritter4.0]

You get what you pay for. SO is the real deal.

Duralast is the real steal.

I prefer Snap-On sockets, they are much better for aviation style hardware than Duralast sockets.

 

[Crappycivic]

You get what you pay for. SO is the real deal.

Well then since duralast ratchets are essentially a carbon copy, that would make them both the real deal so I guess with duralast I got a lot more than I paid for

 

[Bocefus]

I bought a Duralast ratchet and to be honest about it I really don't care for it much. I can't get over the stiff, course 36 tooth action. It does its job but I always find myself picking up my 60 tooth quick release craftsman thin profile ratchet instead..

 

[RangerDaleXp]

Lol, Stick around, GJ may learn why.

I am not sure what you mean by this statement but it did sound like you called me scooter by the way it was worded, Anyways whatever and have a good night......

 

[Ritter4.0]

I bought a Duralast ratchet and to be honest about it I really don't care for it much. I can't get over the stiff, course 36tooth action. It does its job but I always find myself picking up my 60tooth quick release craftsman thin profile ratchet instead..

Open it up, and clip the spring. Plenty of threads and posts on how to do it. My ratchets are now just as, if not smoother than any Dual 80, minus a few teeth....

 

[stricht8]

Well then since duralast ratchets are essentially a carbon copy, that would make them both the real deal so I guess with duralast I got a lot more than I paid for

Pretty much. Try a dual 80 and you'll see what you're really missing.

 

[trboxman]

Pretty much. Try a dual 80 and you'll see what you're really missing.

Prolly won't be too long till they clone that too.

 

[shoturtle]

Not worth the legal headaches with patent infringement. They will just buy the lic rights for the design. The chinese auto makers are buying old japanese car design and putting fresh sheet metal on them and selling them for their home market.

 

[stricht8]

Prolly won't be too long till they clone that too.

And plenty of us will buy it and love it. Losing manufacturing jobs to China? Aw who cares. Let's not complain when our economy continues to go to the *******.

 

[JimDon]

One of my welding instructors worked for a firm that installed paper equipment. He was in China doing an install. He told the class that as quickly as they put together the paper machine, there was a group of Chinese engineers, techs and photographers behind them that tore it down, photographed it, copied plans, etc., etc., and another behind them that put it together a second time.

They have no scruples.

He also said he saw them send welders up two or three stories without any safety equipment, dragging welding leads with them as they climbed beams etc. No worries, because if that guy fell and died, they'd just grab somebody else and send them in to finish the job the dead guy failed on.

Nobody can compete with that kind of BS.

BTW, this wasn't hearsay, where he knew a guy, who knew a guy, who saw it and told his grandmother about it. He was there. Witnessed it, and told the class about it. I was in the class and heard it firsthand, but always, take any stories with a grain of salt. I'm just sayin'.
Cheers,
JimDon

 

[Ritter4.0]

And plenty of us will buy it and love it. Losing manufacturing jobs to China? Aw who cares. Let's not complain when our economy continues to go to the *******.

But but but, we DESERVE BETTER than manufacturing jobs! Don't you know you go to college to get a better job than manufacturing? You need to have a workforce that can and is willing manufacture, and regulations that allow you to manufacture. I have no statistics, but I'm pretty sure we are losing both of those. Nobody wants to get their hands dirty anymore. China currently doesn't give a ****, but is hinting at it.

I work in manufacturing, and absolutely love it.

 

[Hank McMauser]

Personally, you couldn't pay me to use that SK ratchet or the wright listed earlier in this **** fest of a thread. I hate round head ratchets, Neither have any features I like in a ratchet.

My Duralast ratchets have everything I like in a ratchet, and have a warranty that is available in any direction I may travel. They are better, stronger and cheaper then any craftsman, Kobalt, husky,NAPA etc or any other locally available ratchet. I would 1000 to 1 rather have my Duralast then the SK, RH Williams, or wright ratchet posted in this thread.
As for the sealed head Williams, I have a few and they are basically the same exact ratchet as the duralast with a higher price tag, less desirable handle and a hard to obtain warranty. And not everyone needs Snap-on.

Tell that to your buddy over there who is a machinist when he no longer has a job & he's in the unemplyment line, or signin' up for food stamps

 

[trboxman]

Ironic thing here is the folks suggesting that the used market is better than Asian new without realizing that used does even less to support US jobs than buying Asian...

 

[Ritter4.0]

Ironic thing here is the folks suggesting that the used market is better than Asian new without realizing that used does even less to support US jobs than buying Asian...

Thats why I consider it "Tool recycling"

 

[shoturtle]

Ironic thing here is the folks suggesting that the used market is better than Asian new without realizing that used does even less to support US jobs than buying Asian...

So true, unless you sell on ebay. Then you line ebay's coffers

 

[Mickey O]

$15 dollar ratchets from Asia, extremely high property, sales and income taxes (to pay for all the people out of work), lower property values, $4.00 + gallon of petrol and inflation is on it's way, but all is well. I wonder if the large petrol consumption by the Chinese didn't double the price of petrol here in the US how much extra money I would have a year? Guess it really doesn't matter because I think most people spend more money on ratchets than petrol, right? Figure it out and you're paying about 10 times what a Snap-On ratchet costs for a Duralast and in the end your still left with an inferior ratchet* that you couldn't sell for enough money to buy a fortune cookie at a Chinese restaurant.

Maybe a few can post their yearly petrol costs and their yearly ratchet costs.







* Based on everyone's concern about being able to exchange them, obviously they must break a lot why else would being able to exchange them be such a big concern? You don't have to be concerned about exchanging quality USA made ratchet because they rarely break. Also based on the fact that the Asians make ****** tools.

 

[shoturtle]

Not that again, why does everyone bundle all the asian tools together.

 

[stricht8]

Mickey O to the rescue! It's refreshing to see you again!

$15 dollar ratchets from Asia, extremely high property, sales and income taxes (to pay for all the people out of work), lower property values, $4.00 + gallon of petrol and inflation is on it's way, but all is well. I wonder if the large petrol consumption by the Chinese didn't double the price of petrol here in the US how much extra money I would have a year? Guess it really doesn't matter because I think most people spend more money on ratchets than petrol, right? Figure it out and you're paying about 10 times what a Snap-On ratchet costs for a Duralast and in the end your still left with an inferior ratchet* that you couldn't sell for enough money to buy a fortune cookie at a Chinese restaurant.

Maybe a few can post their yearly petrol costs and their yearly ratchet costs.







* Based on everyone's concern about being able to exchange them, obviously they must break a lot why else would being able to exchange them be such a big concern? You don't have to be concerned about exchanging quality USA made ratchet because they rarely break. Also based on the fact that the Asians make ****** tools.

 

[kythri]

Am I the only one who finds it amusing that there are those lambasting Duralast for copying a no-longer-patent-protected Snap-on ratchet, when Snap-on founded their whole business on producing and selling a knock-off of someone else's no-longer-patent-protected invention?

 

[kythri]

* Based on everyone's concern about being able to exchange them, obviously they must break a lot why else would being able to exchange them be such a big concern? You don't have to be concerned about exchanging quality USA made ratchet because they rarely break. Also based on the fact that the Asians make ****** tools.

Then why is everyone so concerned about warranty for US-made tools?

Nice strawman.

 

[stricht8]

Not that again, why does everyone bundle all the asian tools together.

Many are good, many are not, but good or bad, they all together do nothing to support US manufacturing jobs. I don't use tools professionally but I still prefer to spend 5 times as much for a quality US tool truck brand ratchet.

 

[stricht8]

Am I the only one who finds it amusing that there are those lambasting Duralast for copying a no-longer-patent-protected Snap-on ratchet, when Snap-on founded their whole business on producing and selling a knock-off of someone else's no-longer-patent-protected invention?

Maybe so but Snap On employed American workers making their "knock-offs" while d*ldolast is not.

 

[kythri]

Many are good, many are not, but good or bad, they all together do nothing to support US manufacturing jobs. I don't use tools professionally but I still prefer to spend 5 times as much for a quality US tool truck brand ratchet.

You know, since you've been supporting the purchase of European tools in this very thread, you don't get to use the argument of "supporting US manufacturing jobs" anymore.

 

[petee_c]

I do have a serious question, are we having fun ....... yet?

Haha!!!

Who pays $260 for a ratchet from eBay and then uses it?

 

[redwrench60]

Maybe so but Snap On employed American workers making their "knock-offs" while d*ldolast is not.

You got me with "dildolast" laughed so hard I nearly pissed myself!

 

[stricht8]

Um yes I do because 98% of my tools are American, 1% are Asian and 1% are European. I mention European tools because of their undeniable quality. Asian tools are hit or miss.

 

[shoturtle]

Many are good, many are not, but good or bad, they all together do nothing to support US manufacturing jobs. I don't use tools professionally but I still prefer to spend 5 times as much for a quality US tool truck brand ratchet.

I think you never used a japanese tool, they are very well made. And they are asian. But if you want to spend more it is your money.

Personally think allot of people get the truck tool bug being on here. As there is a super strong truck tool fan base and it is push on gj.

 

[Ritter4.0]

Um yes I do because 98% of my tools are American, 1% are Asian and 1% are European. I mention European tools because of their undeniable quality. Asian tools are hit or miss.

The Duralast in this thread is a hit.

Its OK to rip someone's idea off if it is an American doing it, right? So someone in Columbia could make a rip-off Snap-On tool and you'd buy it? They are American after all.

 

[stricht8]

I think you never used a japanese tool, they are very well made. And they are asian. But if you want to spend more it is your money.

Personally think allot of people get the truck tool bug being on here. As there is a super strong truck tool fan base and it is push on gj.

I've already defended the quality of the more recent Japanese tools. They also don't pose a threat to US manufacturing jobs as outsourcing to Japan is no longer a cost saving proposition.

 

[stricht8]

The Duralast in this thread is a hit.

Its OK to rip someone's idea off if it is an American doing it, right? So someone in Columbia could make a rip-off Snap-On tool and you'd buy it? They are American after all.

semantics, please. You know that we are referring to USA American tools.

 

[RangerDaleXp]

$15 dollar ratchets from Asia, extremely high property, sales and income taxes (to pay for all the people out of work), lower property values, $4.00 + gallon of petrol and inflation is on it's way, but all is well. I wonder if the large petrol consumption by the Chinese didn't double the price of petrol here in the US how much extra money I would have a year? Guess it really doesn't matter because I think most people spend more money on ratchets than petrol, right? Figure it out and you're paying about 10 times what a Snap-On ratchet costs for a Duralast and in the end your still left with an inferior ratchet* that you couldn't sell for enough money to buy a fortune cookie at a Chinese restaurant.

Maybe a few can post their yearly petrol costs and their yearly ratchet costs.

* Based on everyone's concern about being able to exchange them, obviously they must break a lot why else would being able to exchange them be such a big concern? You don't have to be concerned about exchanging quality USA made ratchet because they rarely break. Also based on the fact that the Asians make ****** tools.

This is a bunch of BS and you should become a politician. The hike in fuel cost is caused by many factors.#1 Obama shuting down the oil fields in the Gulf of Mexico.#2 the US sticking their noses in Libya, Egypt, and Syria.#3 Obama blocking oil drilling in the states like North Dakota and Alaska. #4 Obama wanting a hike in fuel prices to push his green energy policies. #5 Obama blocking of an oil pipeline from Canada. This pipeline will help feed China instead of us now. #6 tensions with Iran and the United States not doing anything about Iran several years ago.

As for Americans losing their jobs, it has nothing to do with some guy buying a ratchet from AutoZone, it is all about company executives wanting to put more money in their pockets. The executives are the ones that are making the decisions to do all the outsourcing and being allowed to do so by our government. The other problem is all that EPA restrictions being imposed on companies which forces companies to manufacture elsewhere. As for this country handing out money all over the world, Obama in the last three years has doubled George Bushes amount that he had in eight years of office.

Until we get a government in office that will deal with these problems it is not going to get any better.......

 

[RangerDaleXp]

Anyways, this thread has been all over the place with a lot of opinions, some constructive and some not. I don't normally get political but I kind this felt pushed into this and I am sorry for doing so. I know I said this earlier but have a good night.........

 

[stricht8]

Anyways, this thread has been all over the place with a lot of opinions, some constructive and some not. I don't normally get political but I kind this felt pushed into this and I am sorry for doing so. I know I said this earlier but have a good night.........

No reason to apologize. This is an interesting discussion. It's a forum after all.

 

[Case]