Snap on Announced USA stamp coming back on ratchets
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Don't know. None of my Snap On Tools are without USA stamped on it. I do not buy Snap On Tools without a USA stamped on it.
archirelic
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This coupled with the fact that Channellock has started to produce their code blue comfort grips in the U.S. instead of overseas makes for some awesome news!!!!!!!!!!
Tarheelgarage
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Octarine
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I can't wait for all the deals I will get on non usa stamped SO ratchets!
From what I understand, it's done so they can get their make money ASAP instead of waiting on the Patent Office to issue a patent on the filing (go ahead and get it manufactured and to market), yet still have some sense that they're protected from IP theft.
Still done, but not as effective as it used to be IMHO, given the willingness of some manufacturers to blatantly steal IP as they know the odds of being convicted of such an offense is nil (bet if you only had one guess as to what nation where this occurs, you'd probably get it right
).Interested in those myself.
You're ******** dude.
Not *********. I just will not buy Snap On tools without a USA stamp. My Blue Point wrenches are made and stamped "USA". I stopped buying MAC tools when the pliers were stamped China.
sickboy motors inc.
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As ratchets have changed shapes throughout the years, im wondering if the USA stamping will be the only change? Maybe the head or handle will be slighty different as well any dealers here privy to that?
chadster1
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No change, not even a part number change.
rhastings80
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Could it be that the USA was removed originally due to non U.S. steel was being used even though they were made here? Also since they will now say USA does that mean pricing will go up?
Sparkfarmer
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I wonder if we will see some good deals on EBay once the USA stamps hit the trucks. Fingers crossed, I really want a 1/2" d80.
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Toolhorder
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No and no
mmack66
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Their website still had the COO as being USA, so I doubt it was a steel issue.
They gave some lame globalization of sales reason for removing Made in USA, as if people buying Snap-On tools wouldn't already know in what country they were made.
No but Snap On should use USA steel anyway.
I was told it was production issues.
My gut feeling tells me it was for political reasons.
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Toolhorder
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Steel is steel it's all from the earth the US kind isn't better
I wish to see pics of this. The ones I just got in say USA on them.
Is there anyone one here who is actually serious about replacing there none marked ratchets with market ones?
gatewaysysop
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The flip side of this is that anyone hording an original USA stamped version as a collector's item needs to unload them before they're no longer collectible.
As for the whole conspiracy stuff, I take it all with a grain of salt. I think there'd be a lot less of that if the company had just explained why they took the stamp off. People wouldn't have to come up with theories if someone just told them the truth. Not as in "my dealer said this" vs. "yeah but my guy in the factory told me his friend said.." vs. "Oh yeah? Well the person answering the phones told me...", etc. but an actual official statement. Barring that, you'll never be rid of "conspiracy theory" explanations (and hell, the real truth might not even stop some of them).
Oh well. I have a USA stamped F80 from when they first came out, always been happy with it. Would I have bought it without the stamp? Probably not. Am I glad the stamp is coming back? You bet. Will I buy other 80 series ratchets down the road with the stamp? Most likely.
Not to be a jerk, but are you serious?
Iron ore is from the earth, steel is from a foundry. Steel is a manufactured product, and like any manufactured product there are huge differences in quality, depending on many factors. While steel does not have to be from the USA to be high quality, we are known for high quality steel manufacturing. While China is capable of producing high quality steel, they are generally known for producing less than high quality steel products. Generally speaking, you get what you pay for.
Of course, Snap On's F80 ratchets have always been made in USA, stamped that way, or not. I'm glad to see it back on the tool!
chadster1
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The flip side of this is that anyone hording an original USA stamped version as a collector's item needs to unload them before they're no longer collectible.
As for the whole conspiracy stuff, I take it all with a grain of salt. I think there'd be a lot less of that if the company had just explained why they took the stamp off. People wouldn't have to come up with theories if someone just told them the truth. Not as in "my dealer said this" vs. "yeah but my guy in the factory told me his friend said.." vs. "Oh yeah? Well the person answering the phones told me...", etc. but an actual official statement. Barring that, you'll never be rid of "conspiracy theory" explanations (and hell, the real truth might not even stop some of them).
Oh well. I have a USA stamped F80 from when they first came out, always been happy with it. Would I have bought it without the stamp? Probably not. Am I glad the stamp is coming back? You bet. Will I buy other 80 series ratchets down the road with the stamp? Most likely.
Snap-on did explain why the stamp was removed and people did not believe it. The bat **** crazy conspiracy theorists came up with all kinds of theories. I can tell you who most of them are just by looking at my ignore list.
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I don't know if it's a coincidence or not, but at the time Snap-on took the USA stamp off the F80, America's popularity was at an all time low when GW and Cheney were in office. There were protests going on all over the world at the time. Snap-on was trying to be a global company and was just looking out for their global interests.
bcradio
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Way to go!!! Lets start talking politics now. Good Job!
I do not have them anymore. I had a pair of Channellock dia cutters that needed to be warrantied. My MAC dealer wanted to give me the same type of pliers only made in China. I convinced the MAC dealer to give me credit for the cutters. I used the credit to pay off some of my account. After I finish paying my account off The MAC tool truck stopped coming to my job. This happened about seven years ago.
I will not buy any Snap On Tool without USA stamped on it.
ijason
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i too am glad to see that Snap-On will put USA back on there tools smart move
mlittle29
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Really glad the USA stamp is back. Kinda funny I have obtained MOST of my ratchets in the past couple of years all w/o the USA stamp. Maybe I'm nuts, but I want USA stamped ones, gonna have to come up with something to replae all 9 lacking the USA stamp. Hey SO dealer, are you back from Vegas yet????
Murphy4570
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Huh, I have the 3/8 and 1/2 ratchets without the USA stamp, and they're the early screw through plate design. Haven't broken them yet.
Are they warranty-able if in working condition, to get the newer design?
Are they warranty-able if in working condition, to get the newer design?
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Snapped-off
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I know this thread isn't about MAC, but they have two types, the dark red handled pliers are typically USA, while the bright red handled pliers are not USA.
thejudges69
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I guess in 6 pages of following I have no idea what the big deal is, so just cause it says made in the USA makes it OK, even if the steel or other parts come from china or Mexico? This thread to me seems like a bunch of whining over something so puny. In fact my own opinion there seems to be a lot of whining period on the forum about USA stamps. I know I'll catch slack over them comments, I own snapon amongst others foreign and domestic and other then the fact that the truck comes once a week to fix tools I really don't see the big deal, when I can go to sears and replace the tool same day and be back to work in an hour.
I think the hype about them being for professional mechanics is BS also, what exactly defines a professional mechanic, I do all my own maintenance, repairs, rebuilds and so on, I think I'm a professional would most consider me that? I doubt it. A tools a tool to do a job, no matter where its made if it gets the job done its OK with me.
I think the hype about them being for professional mechanics is BS also, what exactly defines a professional mechanic, I do all my own maintenance, repairs, rebuilds and so on, I think I'm a professional would most consider me that? I doubt it. A tools a tool to do a job, no matter where its made if it gets the job done its OK with me.
ianguilly
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Didn't even notice or really care, just as long as my warranty is stays.
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Toolhorder
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They started with china pliers awhile ago. The chinese ones **** too BTW. They have spring pieced on both inner handles or whatever that fall out and you lose them. The metal rusts too and discolors fast. The set was $99 for the set and it came in a zip up zylon case.
I'm going to try and replace my ratchets yes.
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Toolhorder
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A professional uses tools to make a living. Not a weekend warrior, hobbyist or DIYer.
Not too hard to understand.
The big deal is most of us like USA made tools because we like quality and supporting manufacturing in OUR country. The fact the SO decided to drop the USA stamp cast doubts as to the tool and it's parts COO.
to all of the guys who say they don't care and say it say it is no big deal, well apparently it is. if they say it is us made, then it "probably" is us made but for snap-on to do a complete 180 and change their stance, it is is a big deal and you can't say that it isn't. it is a major big deal and i congratulate them on it. i have one and no it does not say usa on it. i wish it did but it doesn't. i doubt i will buy any more because of it but i know many will.