it's garage sale season!!

[Provincial]

Outlaw, my drill press is almost identical to yours. It does not have the coolant lip and I bought the tilt table to mount on the back. The only drawback I have with mine is that it does not have a hand crank table raising setup. With the tilt table added, it is pretty heavy lifting it by hand.

It doesn't slow down enough to drill much over 1/2", but then it was really designed as a woodworking machine. I have a mill drill with a #3 taper for the bigger holes.

It sounds like you need the Walker-Turner that is for sale near here (see thumbnail), as it has a lot of reach and a great table.

 

[Outlawmws]

Discovered an interesting way to get something unstuck today; Both the head and table on the Craftsman DP were rusted in place when I removed the locking clamps. the would not rotate or other wise move. The head I put a safety clamp under it before even trying to remove it. The table just sat there and sneered.

I shot both with PB blaster and worked on other things, (getting rust off of detail parts, mostly) and then started on the lower column with a wire wheel on a mini grinder. I guess the vibrations set of a good pattern an hit a good rust breaking harmonic, because the table came rattling down the column and was free!

I set it on the bottom and went back at it and a couple minutes later the head slip down and hit the stop clamp! I cleaned up the top section and had two of my kids help get the head back up where it went, (actually higher it was ridiculously low, and actually can go another 4" higher if I want...) the rests was just an excersize in cleaning rust off.

I also discovered that the base of this DP is not ground flat/smooth as with all the rest I see, its rough cast..
In any case, here it is almost ready for paint. A little more prep to go.

 

[Outlawmws]

Outlaw, my drill press is almost identical to yours. It does not have the coolant lip and I bought the tilt table to mount on the back. The only drawback I have with mine is that it does not have a hand crank table raising setup. With the tilt table added, it is pretty heavy lifting it by hand.

It doesn't slow down enough to drill much over 1/2", but then it was really designed as a woodworking machine. I have a mill drill with a #3 taper for the bigger holes.

It sounds like you need the Walker-Turner that is for sale near here (see thumbnail), as it has a lot of reach and a great table.

Hey, if I keep finding them cheap and flipping them ready for another 30-40 years, maybe I will be able to afford a big one like that!

 

[Provincial]

There was a version of this drill press for sale at a garage sale a few weeks ago. It was missing the belt guard and belt, but otherwise was complete and in decent shape. They were asking $300 for it, so you should be able to afford the WT after only two "flips"!

 

[bluebolt]

Pics of the stuff I got earlier and the DP.

Provincial you got it near dead on! Mod No. 113 21371 and a "Mfg. No" of 7 77, which I'm guessing is a date code. original Craftsman 1/2 HP 1725 RPM motor.

I'm liking the data plates on each side; One side gives setups for different speeds and even recommended speeds for different materials, and the one on the opposite side has recommended Tap drill sizes for SAE threads, and size conversions for letter and number drills to decimal.

The table has an interesting variation: While it is a fixed table except for height, there is a boss for adding a tilting table. (I wonder if this was a round rotary table?) Hmmmm, I have a Rotary table I picked up from another GJ member... AND this thing has the same 2.750 column size as my Rockwell project DP.... Hmmmm I may have to consider some parts swaps...

I checked the 73 catalog I have and found a similar DP. The only difference is the table. in 73 it had a coolant catching edge, (wish this one did...) and the add on tilting table does just that, tilts, but no rotary option. Oh well I can adapt one...

Provincial, does your table have the coolant edge and the housing the drill tables? in 73 they made 2 models; This one, and a a "homeowners" model with a slightly smaller table and a slightly smaller quill Dia, and without the charts based on the pics. Everything else appears to be basically he same.

Anyway: Pics!

Ads from '73

Ah yes, the tools I also bought there, in desperate need of an E bath, but the handles still turn on the "speed" wrench so that's a plus...

Outlaw, I just sold a similar Craftsman drill press. I believe yours is the homeowners model, the commercial model had the slotted table with the coolant edge AND the head unit had a "split" in the front so you could adjust for wear. That's what I had and sold, however the table ended up on my Craftsman 150 drill press project. The newer one got the old table with a really bad "arc of shame" and my 150 has the base and tube from a floor model 150 that the head and the previously mentioned table was in really poor shape, the head and nice table and variable speed reversible motor from a nice bench model 150 I bought AND the table from the newer drill press. With the variable speed motor I can slow it down to 176 RPM, chews through thick steel no problem!

 

[Outlawmws]

BlueBolt, your right, I measured the quill size, (as that is the real difference) and mine is 1-5/8 not 1-7/8. except for the table, everything else is pretty much the same. It is still an outstanding DP though for home shop use though. It's a little shy on the slowest speed, but not by much, and far better that the run of the mill 4 speed DP's What threw me was the tilt table boss on the table. They mention it in the adds for the commercial DP, but not for this one.

I'll shop around for the bigger table for my Rockwell project DP. Who knows, it could turn up. Heck I could buy another rust bucket DP if cheap enough...

 

[bigcaddy]

Hey, if I keep finding them cheap and flipping them ready for another 30-40 years, maybe I will be able to afford a big one like that!

What would you consider "cheap" and what kind of return are you getting on a refinished/refurb DP? I'm always looking for a project to mess with and a DP isn't too complicated to clean up.

What would you ask for your press in its current condition? What did you pay? I would do this just to trade up to something better then what i have now which is nothing except a nice corded hand drill.

 

[zuk123]

Outlaw - I'm impressed how quickly you turned that Dp around.

Davefr. - um, I think I'd buy anything Brown and sharpe for 10! That is a nice vise!

You guys got some good stuff. I 'm on vacation with the family, so I don 't think I 'll get anything this week. I 'm keeping my eyes open though. I have 3 pounds left in my suitcase so you never know.


Zuk

 

[Outlawmws]

BC, PM sent

 

[Provincial]

Shhh bigcaddy! You'll scoop up all the DP's the way you vacuum up all the good vises. At least I'm far enough away that you aren't competing here!

PS: Steer me to a 6" or bigger quality vise about 900 miles North of you.

 

[J HAV]

Went back to the Estate sale from yesterday. Found more goodies and one cool little table saw! Picked up some wrenches... Thorsen, Williams, Proto. Also some Cincinnati c-clamps, WISS cutters, Riggid pipe cutter, Craftsman square, and a 1/2" Indestro breaker bar.... and this cool little Dunlap table saw! came with some dunlap saw blades, fence, and miter gauge. Powered by a 1/2 HP Craftsman motor... all for $40 bucks

 

[Outlawmws]

Shhh bigcaddy! You'll scoop up all the DP's the way you vacuum up all the good vises. At least I'm far enough away that you aren't competing here!

PS: Steer me to a 6" or bigger quality vise about 900 miles North of you.

Prov, I have a 6" Paramo (Record look alike) w/swivel base, I'd trade for that big DP you have near you, and I"m a LOT closer to you than BC is... buy the thing and make a little road trip!

 

[Provincial]

Prov, I have a 6" Paramo (Record look alike) w/swivel base, I'd trade for that big DP you have near you, and I"m a LOT closer to you than BC is... buy the thing and make a little road trip!

Sounds good! You buy the gas.

 

[Outlawmws]

JHav, I also picked up a tiny Tsaw (might be a Dunlap might be a Craftsman, Not sure), tonight along with a (more modern) 1/2 HP motor, and an old Parker vise, which I can post pics of now (The saw is on its side in the van waiting till sometime tomorrow for off loading...)

I also made a quick 2 stop late afternoon run to yard sales, and scored a deep frame Jewelers saw:

The Parker almost qualifies as a "Baby Parker" 3-1/4" jaws, but it's so little, and the Models No. 0000 - Whats up with that? Anyone recognize this puppy?

 

[Outlawmws]

Sounds good! You buy the gas.

Man, gas jumped 40 cents a gallon here in a week. Fallout from that damn chevron refinery fire...

 

[J HAV]

Cool Outlawmws! Can't wait to see that saw tomorrow... I already started cutting some scrap wood up when I got home tonight. It works like a little champ lol. Btw... Nice vise brother!

 

[Provincial]

Man, gas jumped 40 cents a gallon here in a week. Fallout from that damn chevron refinery fire...

Profiteering.

Seems to happen at regular intervals. Hmmm?

 

[Flatintoone]

Profiteering.

Seems to happen at regular intervals. Hmmm?

That's funny, a couple weeks ago they attributed the price spike here to some Midwestern refineries down for maintenance and a 55,000 gallon spill in a nearby town...

 

[Outlawmws]

Back on topic: size reference for the vise, only 23 lbs!

 

[WNYflyer]

Weekend find at a local Estate Sale

I like finding the unusual. So picked up these Berylco DOE wrenches. Also a Diamond adjustable wrench as well as a 1/4" drive Snap-On ratchet. Surprised nobody had snagged the ratchet but of course the estate sale people put masking tape with the price over the Snap-On name.

 

[Flatintoone]

Nice finds, WNFlyer! Do the wrenches look anything like these:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NGK-Metals-...159?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item416619e477

 

[Outlawmws]

OK finally got the small (and I mean small!) T saw out of the van:

It's not a Craftsman as it turns out, and it's not a Dunlap either! It's a Companion so it's somewhere in the 1933-1940 area. I'll try to ID it closer later.

This one is not as complete as J hav's; it's missing the fence and miter gauge, but does have the blade guard and cut splitter. I may have a fence and miter that work for it in the "collection"

It's on a home brew table that looks more line a garden cart than a T saw bench, but it does fire up and run!

This was pretty much a freebee, as i bought the vise and T saw as a unit (You can see where the vise was mounted), but what I wanted was the Vise and the motor. I'll see what I can do with the saw, as I have another one marked Sears/Roebuck and may have been a Dunlap, or a Companion...

And the progress on the Craftsman DP. Pretty much done with this one!

 

[lowbucktruck]

That drill press cleaned up nice, Outlaw. Some nice scores, gang.

Here is my small pile from an estate sale I hit on the way home. Scored a Craftsman crown logo toolbox for $3 (tray included!).
Grabbed some pliers and dikes, an Arrow stapler and some odds and ends for $4 bucks. Only spent a total of $7 bucks!

 

[Outlawmws]

That drill press cleaned up nice, Outlaw. Some nice scores, gang.

Here is my small pile from an estate sale I hit on the way home. Scored a Craftsman crown logo toolbox for $3 (tray included!).
Grabbed some pliers and dikes, an Arrow stapler and some odds and ends for $4 bucks. Only spent a total of $7 bucks!

Thanks LowBuck! I actually already have the DP sold to a buddy of mine, We were talking on the phone and he wants it. I'd rather a friend get it than a total stranger take it and Eff it up (Again)...

I'm always intrigued by those gas pliers, but I have several pairs now so I'm treating them like slip joints: pass them up unless it's something really unique. Nice little haul!

 

[WNYflyer]

Nice finds, WNFlyer! Do the wrenches look anything like these:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NGK-Metals-...159?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item416619e477

Flatintoone,

Those are nice wrenches in the link especially being combinations rather than the opens I picked up. I have no idea how old those combinations are or the ones I picked up. Mine are not raised panel either.

I believe the ebay link says the wrenches are brass. I believe they are actually Beryllium Copper like mine, thus the stamp of "BE CU" on the wrenches.

 

[WNYflyer]

Outlawmws,

Great work on the drill press. Looks great

 

[Outlawmws]

Flatintoone,

Those are nice wrenches in the link especially being combinations rather than the opens I picked up. I have no idea how old those combinations are or the ones I picked up. Mine are not raised panel either.

I believe the ebay link says the wrenches are brass. I believe they are actually Beryllium Copper like mine, thus the stamp of "BE CU" on the wrenches.

Be Cu is Beryllium Copper

And thanks!

 

[lowbucktruck]

Thanks LowBuck! I actually already have the DP sold to a buddy of mine, We were talking on the phone and he wants it. I'd rather a friend get it than a total stranger take it and Eff it up (Again)...

I'm always intrigued by those gas pliers, but I have several pairs now so I'm treating them like slip joints: pass them up unless it's something really unique. Nice little haul!

That's great that your buddy is buying the DP from you. That is a quick flip! I hear you, better to sell to someone you know is going to treat the machine right and take care of it.

 

[Provincial]

Outlaw, good job on the drill press! Buy the kids a milkshake. I agree it is best to pass the good stuff off to friends. That is a good press and it will last forever if cared for. Tell him about the Gates belt part number. He may need it in the next 20 years.

 

[Lump]

Nice hauls, guys! I'm envious.

 

[bigcaddy]

Nice hauls, guys! I'm envious.

Said the man with the enormous vise in his truck bed

 

[Outlawmws]

Said the man with the enormous vise in his truck bed

"Is that a vise in your truck bed, or are you just glad to see me?"

Nahhh, doesn't work!

 

[Outlawmws]

Outlaw, good job on the drill press! Buy the kids a milkshake. I agree it is best to pass the good stuff off to friends. That is a good press and it will last forever if cared for. Tell him about the Gates belt part number. He may need it in the next 20 years.

Thanks Prov!

Yeah, I owe them one.

I've got the Gates No, written down, and a couple of URL's as sources too. Thanks!

I also got the Owners manual off the Sears site as a download and sent it to him already.

 

[Outlawmws]

I seem to be on a refinishing roll, this week:

This was picked up a month ago to get it's contents. Heavy enough box, but it's been rode pretty hard and put away wet; literally!:

I've no clue who made this box originally, but there was some wrinkle paint on it under all the god-awful silver, and it may have been green, but I would expect there to have been a riveted tag for an SK box...


So after some fairly serious metal (re)forming, and a LOT of derusting (E tank AND a lot of sanding...) Then red primer and finally wasting a full can of Hammertone in bronze, it looks like this:

It's far from perfect, maybe a "5 ft" paint job.

Why go through all this for a box most would just have tossed into the recycle bin?

I have a bunch of 3/4 drive sockets (And a few 1") and my dad's old P&C 3/4 drive rat as well as a breaker, sliding T bar, and 3 extensions. I'm going to line the bottom (in open orientation) with some leftover cork mat, and the "other bottom" (in carry orientation) so they are not beating the paint to **** (again).

I also want to get a few of those "broom hangers" and make it so the extensions at least, get snapped into place. If I can get them the size I need for the rat, breaker and T bar, then those also.

It will need a new handle, and I'm thinking I can get a leather boot lace and with about 6-8 wraps through some D rings, and then some weaving, make a decent carry handle for it.

The last thing I'll do is some "feet" for both orientations, so the paint doesn't get scraped off on concrete. That may be just glued on rubber strips. I'll have to think about that.

 

[maddawg308]

Nice job, outlaw! Might not be a 100% resto, but you have given it new life, will be able to carry tools for another 50 years...

Can't wait for this weekend! There's going to be a few big garage sales in town I already know about.

 

[Chipmunk]

I picked up these two boxes today. For a split second I thought the gray one was an old Snap-On. But I can't find a name on either of them. I suspect the second one to be a Simonsen Metal Products military contract box. (it's in pretty good shape)

What do you guys think????????

 

[Chipmunk]

and....http://www.afterthebattle.de/product_info.php?info=p1210_Tool-Chest-M6---Werkzeugkiste---US-

 

[BJ42LX]

I had my hands on one of these today. The exact same box except it was branded Kennedy and painted brown wrinkle. Asking $25.

What do you guys think????????

 

[Chipmunk]

Here is the other one...
http://www.g503.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=82588

 

[donmillerx]

Finally got out to a couple of sales today after a long break and managed to find a few things…
Some Proto, Los Angeles, Blackhawk, Klein, Thorsen, Snap-On, Blue-Point, Wright, S-K, Mac and some older Craftsman, not pictured.

Here's a photo with a few more close-ups.