Above 1200 Sq/FT Restored 1930's Auto Shop
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Wokspaces above 1200 squarefeet.
Omphaloskeptic
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Chris, I vote for the Artillian Forks as well, but not necessarily just for the Portable Dirty Room, PDR extraction alone. Looking forward to Thomas's After Retirement Career (A.R.C.) as the Retirement Home Sidewalk Superintendent (R.H.S.S.), he will undoubtedly find the pallet forks indispensable as two of his new duties will be Chief Material Handler (C.M.H.) and Warehouse Storage Manager (W.S.M.). When you consider, as Thomas said, " And did I mention they come already powder coated John Deere green?", it is obviously not a frivolous expenditure, but an acquisition that is almost a preordained mandate!
One last thought for your consideration is that when Thomas has entered the A.R.C. phase of his life, he may not be up to the task of taking his ANVIL for those evening strolls; the JD equipped with those forks will allow him to take the ANVIL for many pleasant journeys about the acreage. It will also give you a break from his aimless wandering about the house and being generally underfoot!
One last thought for your consideration is that when Thomas has entered the A.R.C. phase of his life, he may not be up to the task of taking his ANVIL for those evening strolls; the JD equipped with those forks will allow him to take the ANVIL for many pleasant journeys about the acreage. It will also give you a break from his aimless wandering about the house and being generally underfoot!
markviii
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The Artillian Forks seem like a good investment to me (I never ask about $ because it's a foregone conclusion that he'll be doing something anyway). I won't mind having him around more when he goes into A.R.C mode, but somehow I don't see that happening judging by how my retirement has been going these past three years. I'm busier than ever, but doing what I want to do (mostly).
Chris
Chris
Sweet Old Bill
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Miss Chris said: " I'm busier than ever, but doing what I want to do (mostly)."
I have to say: Congratulations!
I have to say: Congratulations!
Bonneville Speed Week and all.
Devoted husband Thomas
If you make to Bonneville please try to meet up with Mike Bernard Thomas. He's one of my friends and his TB board name is SPOOLFOOL2.
Mike's a really good guy and a nut to say the least.
e-tek
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Thanks for the McLarch Engine ****... Some guys have all the luck!!
Stratolifter
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BB767, had to join the board and say what a great thread! Also, lived in Champaign for 5 years in college and spent many an evening at the Philo Tav
Hello mod600 and welcome to the thread that won't die!
I have not put any shelves in the Stainless Steel Topped Benches, SSTB...............yet. I thought about it when I first built them but decided to wait and see what my needs were as shelves can be added at any point.
Since the bottom is 3/4" plywood and the back is 1/2" not to mention the 4X4 legs across the front, there is sufficient material to attach a shelf support structure of various designs. Those benches are deep enough that I would imagine you would only want a shelf that is half as deep as the bench is...
...as seen here on the Barn Bench, BB. Or alternatively put in a shelf that you could pull out on slides much as you would a drawer. The few items I'm storing under those SSTB presently (a porta power for one) are large and bulky and I need the large space. When you do build your benches be sure to post them on the Journal.
Enjoy the reading you have before you.
Thomas
So what do you do when acronyms work on a couple different meanings?
When I think of PDR I think of Paintless Dent Removal for cars.
That's a good question UN4GTBL and one I really hadn't given any thought. I suppose you'd have to consider the context wouldn't you?
You'd need to be PDR, Pretty Darn Resourceful. 
Oh oh, more Chris test material!! Thomas
Now I ask you, how could you not love a gal like that huh?
Not many wives would consider pallet forks a good investment but then, that's my Chris. BTW Chris, I did order the Artillian Fork's today, I wouldn't want to disappoint my sweetie!
Caring Thomas
Chris, I vote for the Artillian Forks as well, but not necessarily just for the Portable Dirty Room, PDR extraction alone. Looking forward to Thomas's After Retirement Career (A.R.C.) as the Retirement Home Sidewalk Superintendent (R.H.S.S.), he will undoubtedly find the pallet forks indispensable as two of his new duties will be Chief Material Handler (C.M.H.) and Warehouse Storage Manager (W.S.M.). When you consider, as Thomas said, " And did I mention they come already powder coated John Deere green?", it is obviously not a frivolous expenditure, but an acquisition that is almost a preordained mandate!
One last thought for your consideration is that when Thomas has entered the A.R.C. phase of his life, he may not be up to the task of taking his ANVIL for those evening strolls; the JD equipped with those forks will allow him to take the ANVIL for many pleasant journeys about the acreage. It will also give you a break from his aimless wandering about the house and being generally underfoot!
What he said.......I do it for you Chris.
Thomas
It's been a long day but I wanted to get some of the construction details of the PDR posted.
Grade 5 nuts for mounting the vise were TIG welded (Tungsten Inert Gas) to the back side of the steel plate. You can see where the top nut falls inside the outline of the leg...
...so that worked out pretty well.
1/4" steel plates were shaped to fit the bottom of the legs and then drilled and tapped for the caster mounting bolts.
After the 1/4" plates were attached to the bottom of the legs they were shaped to fit the profile of the leg.
These are the Blickle swivel casters selected for the PDR, attached with grade 8 bolts. Two of the casters will have positive stop-lock brakes. They are polyurethane so they won't flat spot like rubber ones would if they sit in one spot for a long period. Rated at 500 lbs (226 kg) each with sealed ball bearings to keep grit out. They have solid, machined aluminum alloy hubs and are beautiful, quality pieces that should make the PDR just glide across the shop floor and last for decades. Not too happy with the green color but that's the only way I could get polyurethane, so form follows function, just live with it. I bet once everything is powder coated you'll hardly see the green anyway..........at least that's the theory.
With the caster plates attached to the legs, everything was laid out...
... in proper position.
A shallow shelf that was made from large 1/4" angle was installed all along the bottom of the top plate and these small "L" brackets were fabricated to strengthen that angle...
... but more important they aid in holding the angle piece in correct and square position during welding. Note the small square in the middle to the right.
To the front of that large angle a small 1" lip was attached...
...all around it to provide a lip to hang clamps on. I'll get some better pictures of it and post them later.
There is more but it's late and I have a bed calling to me so check back for additional material. Thanks everyone.
Thomas
Grade 5 nuts for mounting the vise were TIG welded (Tungsten Inert Gas) to the back side of the steel plate. You can see where the top nut falls inside the outline of the leg...
...so that worked out pretty well.
1/4" steel plates were shaped to fit the bottom of the legs and then drilled and tapped for the caster mounting bolts.
After the 1/4" plates were attached to the bottom of the legs they were shaped to fit the profile of the leg.
These are the Blickle swivel casters selected for the PDR, attached with grade 8 bolts. Two of the casters will have positive stop-lock brakes. They are polyurethane so they won't flat spot like rubber ones would if they sit in one spot for a long period. Rated at 500 lbs (226 kg) each with sealed ball bearings to keep grit out. They have solid, machined aluminum alloy hubs and are beautiful, quality pieces that should make the PDR just glide across the shop floor and last for decades. Not too happy with the green color but that's the only way I could get polyurethane, so form follows function, just live with it. I bet once everything is powder coated you'll hardly see the green anyway..........at least that's the theory.
With the caster plates attached to the legs, everything was laid out...
... in proper position.
A shallow shelf that was made from large 1/4" angle was installed all along the bottom of the top plate and these small "L" brackets were fabricated to strengthen that angle...
... but more important they aid in holding the angle piece in correct and square position during welding. Note the small square in the middle to the right.
To the front of that large angle a small 1" lip was attached...
...all around it to provide a lip to hang clamps on. I'll get some better pictures of it and post them later.
There is more but it's late and I have a bed calling to me so check back for additional material. Thanks everyone.
Thomas
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Scuderia-F1
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That PDR will be so awesome when it´s done at the powder coater, can't wait for the finished result!
Good question charlief1. My experience is that it was much more expedient to simply weld the nut to the bottom of the plate rather than to tap a 1/2" thread into 3/4" thick plate. If those nuts could have been seen I doubt that I would have done it that way, probably would have tapped the plate. Considering the possibility of breaking a tap in the plate and the associated problems that would create it was best to just weld a nut below and be done with it. Had there been an interference problem with the leg, tapping the plate was my backup plan. As you know there are multiply ways to achieve the same result and at times it just comes down to personal choice and past experience. I've done it this way before with no real downside. Thanks.
Thomas
If you make to Bonneville please try to meet up with Mike Bernard Thomas. He's one of my friends and his TB board name is SPOOLFOOL2.
BTW, I will be at Bonneville so any idea of where I can find Mike Bernard Thomas? What will he be running out there and any clue as to his car number or maybe PM me with a phone contact number?
Thomas
Scuderia-F1
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Thank you Stratolifter. Then you have personal knowledge of how nice this area is. Did you happen to attend the Institute of Aviation while at the U of I?
Feel free to pass the thread on to others you feel might find it interesting/amusing or both.
Thomas
But Thomas, shouldn´t the nuts have been clocked!?
D'oh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That's one for you Scuderia-F1!
Live by the sword, die by the sword I guess.
Thomas
I can PM his cell to you Thomas. And I should've put a comma between your's and his names.
Speeling isn't my strong point after all. It's Mike Benard btw.Scuderia-F1
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D'oh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That's one for you Scuderia-F1!
Live by the sword, die by the sword I guess.
Thomas
Stratolifter
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Thank you Stratolifter. Then you have personal knowledge of how nice this area is. Did you happen to attend the Institute of Aviation while at the U of I?
Feel free to pass the thread on to others you feel might find it interesting/amusing or both.
Thomas
I did attend the aviation program at U of I and flew out of Willard. Had a lot of fun. Was a sad thing to hear they are shutting down.
Information has come to my attention regarding the Jerauld "Y" manifold I found at the shop a few years back. The oldest Johnson son apparently is the one who purchased it new "back in the day" and his son (my age) said he used to carry around a picture of it installed in one of his dad's cars. He is looking for that picture and as I get additional information I'll post it here. BTW, that same oldest Johnson son is the former owner of the Terraplane and some pictures of it from "back in the day" might be in the offing also. Stand by.
Thomas
BTW, here's a link for additional information on Al Jerauld and George Barbers' belly tanker.
http://www.kustomrama.com/index.php?title=Jerauld-Barber's_Belly_Tank
Thomas
BTW, here's a link for additional information on Al Jerauld and George Barbers' belly tanker.
http://www.kustomrama.com/index.php?title=Jerauld-Barber's_Belly_Tank
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onewaydave
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That's a good question UN4GTBL and one I really hadn't given any thought. I suppose you'd have to consider the context wouldn't you?
Thomas
Physician's Desk Reference
Dave, wondering why Thomas needed to look up prescription drugs in the shop?
markviii
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One needs a PDR (Physician's Desk Reference) to find specific meds to treat the symptoms of COTU(Center of the Universe)-itis or PC-(Powder Coat)-obsession. That's PDR (Pretty Darn Resourceful), not to be confused with PDR (Portable Dirty Room) or PDR (Paintless Dent Removal) which has been very helpful on some of our vehicles in the past.
I taught in a world jam-packed with acronyms - SPED (for Special Education), IEPs (Individual Education Plans), BD (Behavior Disorder), LD (Learning Disabled), EMH (Educable Mentally Handicapped), etc. A common sentence in a conversation in the teacher's work room might be "We have an SIP (School Improvement Plan) meeting about BMPs(behavior management plan) , VPs (Vocational Plan), and how they relate to the student's IEP. This in preparation for next week's AMP (accelerated metric plan) meeting to assess each student's individual goals."
The context is everything when it comes to meaning. I sure don't miss those discussions! I'm retired! Q.E.D. ( Quite Easily Done)!
Now we can get back on track.
Chris
I taught in a world jam-packed with acronyms - SPED (for Special Education), IEPs (Individual Education Plans), BD (Behavior Disorder), LD (Learning Disabled), EMH (Educable Mentally Handicapped), etc. A common sentence in a conversation in the teacher's work room might be "We have an SIP (School Improvement Plan) meeting about BMPs(behavior management plan) , VPs (Vocational Plan), and how they relate to the student's IEP. This in preparation for next week's AMP (accelerated metric plan) meeting to assess each student's individual goals."
The context is everything when it comes to meaning. I sure don't miss those discussions! I'm retired! Q.E.D. ( Quite Easily Done)!
Now we can get back on track.
Chris
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hobbitss
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mdbeck1
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Tool Shed Photos!!!!!
So in keeping with the spirit of markviii's posts.... are "Tool Shed Photos" considered a "TSP"????????
BigAl62
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This reminds me of discussions I had with my wife when she worked as a teachers aide. She worked with special needs kids, specifically children with autism. Stupid "No Child Left Behind" put a stop to her doing that job. She misses it, but won't go back even though she now has her associates degree. Too much BS for her!!!
markviii
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In the infinitely wise words of Yoda:
"I cannot teach him. The boy has no patience."
"Truly how wonderful the mind of a child is." (fits the picture)
In a mother's words (mine to my kids when they were little):
"Temper tantrums will get you nowhere!"
Chris
"I cannot teach him. The boy has no patience."
"Truly how wonderful the mind of a child is." (fits the picture)
In a mother's words (mine to my kids when they were little):
"Temper tantrums will get you nowhere!"
Chris
While I'm waiting for the powder coating on the PDR to finish, Lou Bingham and I made a little visit to...
...Bonneville again. Once you leave the Interstate Highway you come across...
..this little sign at the entrance to the salt.
Lou managed to provide some exceptionally cool new hats for us this year.
They had long bills in front and extra long tails in the back and the material was UV resistant so we were styling and profiling in the broiling Utah sun. We were constantly asked where we got them and if we'd sell ours. They're not available to the public and I was sworn to secrecy as to their origin. Lou as you remember, starting coming to the Salt Flats in 1950 and owns several Land Speed Records of his own, last competing here in 1969.
I'll do a more in-depth post on Speed Week shortly. In the mean time here are a few interesting cars seen on the salt that you don't see everyday.
From Australia was this...
...Holden Monaro. I don't know much about them, perhaps one of our Australian friends can fill us in.
Look closely and you'll notice it was right hand drive. Some of the cars are geared so high...
...that they're pushed off the starting line...
...until they're able to run on their own without bogging the engine or slipping the clutch. This is at the starting line and you can see the course just disappears off into the horizon. The small black specs in the distance mark the left and right sides of the course. They no longer run a line down the middle as they did in years past. This is course #1, the long course, and is 12 miles long. Cars running 175 mph+ use this course.
Then there was what I have to believe is...
...the worlds fastest Saab.
I had a picture of it from last year but this time I caught it in the staging lanes...
... getting ready to make a run in anger. Didn't hear how they run unfortunately.
Right behind us in the staging lanes was...
...an early 1950's Buick...
...quite unlike the one my Dad use to drive.
It was powered by a straight 8 engine and I believe they set a new record in their class.
I have more including some new powder coating projects for the shop coming to this space...... as soon as I get all that salt out of my clothes.
Thomas
...Bonneville again. Once you leave the Interstate Highway you come across...
..this little sign at the entrance to the salt.
Lou managed to provide some exceptionally cool new hats for us this year.
They had long bills in front and extra long tails in the back and the material was UV resistant so we were styling and profiling in the broiling Utah sun.
We were constantly asked where we got them and if we'd sell ours. They're not available to the public and I was sworn to secrecy as to their origin. Lou as you remember, starting coming to the Salt Flats in 1950 and owns several Land Speed Records of his own, last competing here in 1969.I'll do a more in-depth post on Speed Week shortly. In the mean time here are a few interesting cars seen on the salt that you don't see everyday.
From Australia was this...
...Holden Monaro. I don't know much about them, perhaps one of our Australian friends can fill us in.
Look closely and you'll notice it was right hand drive. Some of the cars are geared so high...
...that they're pushed off the starting line...
...until they're able to run on their own without bogging the engine or slipping the clutch. This is at the starting line and you can see the course just disappears off into the horizon. The small black specs in the distance mark the left and right sides of the course. They no longer run a line down the middle as they did in years past. This is course #1, the long course, and is 12 miles long. Cars running 175 mph+ use this course.
Then there was what I have to believe is...
...the worlds fastest Saab.
I had a picture of it from last year but this time I caught it in the staging lanes...
... getting ready to make a run in anger. Didn't hear how they run unfortunately.
Right behind us in the staging lanes was...
...an early 1950's Buick...
...quite unlike the one my Dad use to drive.
It was powered by a straight 8 engine and I believe they set a new record in their class.
I have more including some new powder coating projects for the shop coming to this space...... as soon as I get all that salt out of my clothes.
Thomas
ZRX61
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Holden is the Aussie GM manufacturer. The latest Monaros were rebadged & sold in the US at Pontiac GTOs... also sold in the UK with a Vauxhall badge. I think they used 'Vette engines.
HOTFR8
Banned
Holden Monaro is a member of the DLRA (Dry Lake Racers Aust). Should also be a Belly Tank and a Australian Ford Falcon Taxi at the event. All reports are the Aussies have done well and another is in the 200 MPH club.
Thanks for the info. Any idea of the year of the yellow Monaro pictured? It was a well engineered effort and sounded super strong as he drove off.
A little know fact, more people have climbed Mt Everest than are in the 200 MPH club. Very exclusive and very hard to do. Well done to your fellow countryman!
Thomas
GordonB
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Hi from Sydney, Australia.
That yellow Monaro is a 1969 model, the first year they produced the Monaro variant of the Holden. The Holden is made by General Motors-Holden, first model was 1948. The first Monaro is the HK model Holden, and came with two variants of the 186ci inline Holden six, a 307ci Chev V8 and a 327ci Chev V8. Those early Monaros are now very collectible in Australia, especially the 327V8 models, which were the racing ones. The next models had the same shape (different grills, trim, etc) but had the 350 Chev instead of the 327.
Cheers,
Gordon
HOTFR8
Banned
Thanks for the info. Any idea of the year of the yellow Monaro pictured? It was a well engineered effort and sounded super strong as he drove off.
A little know fact, more people have climbed Mt Everest than are in the 200 MPH club. Very exclusive and very hard to do. Well done to your fellow countryman!
Thomas
You have an answer. 200mph is nothing. We have a member of the 300MPH club here in Castlemaine.
Great information Gordon, many thanks. I was first attracted to the car when it rolled to the starting line.
It was not something I was familiar with but I thought it was a handsome car that was extremely clean with nice lines. Then I noticed...
...the 327 crossed flags emblem on the front fender (circled red) and took a closer look. It's very close to the crossed flags emblem...
...on all my Impalas (circled yellow). That's when I went to the back and saw the Monaro script on the trunk. I'd heard of them but never seen one and I knew it was a GM product. No wonder it's collectable; good looking car with a small block Chevy.
Thomas
Well I thought so too oberst. That's why I took so many pictures of it.
We ate lunch with the crew and then the next day...
....they turned up in the staging lanes right behind the car I was the push truck driver for.
They told me the Buick ran a 167+ MPH I believe for a new class record. Awesome car.
This is the Roadster Club members car I got to be the push car driver for and get my log book endorsed as an "Official Bonneville Push Car Driver" or OBPCD
The rear is a chopped Honda 600 and the front is Nolan White's old Kellison and the in between part is....... well I don't know what you'd call the in between part but it's pretty quick, 175+ MPH for its first time on the salt.
Powered by a Lexus V8 it's still being de-bugged. Once the mechanicals are sorted it'll be painted.
Note the toe ******** the top of the throttle pedal. Just in case the throttle sticks open you can pull it closed with that.
The car is pulled from the pits with a tow strap and then just before reaching the starting line the tow car/truck is switched around to become the push car or truck in this case. Note the roof of the car is below the hood of the truck. We put a piece of black tape on the hood of the truck for a reference mark so you know where the push bar is in relation to the car.
Since it's so hot at Bonneville, the drivers don't suit up until just before reaching the starting line. After pushing the car down the course a bit, after it powers away the push truck turns off the course and runs down the return road to recover the car after its run.
Once the driver is safely out of the car, the parachute is gathered up and the car is hooked up and towed back to the pits.
I have more.............
Thomas