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Vise Restoration Questions

Teter09

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Hey Everyone! This board has been great for learning a variety of things I've needed for tool restoration. I've read through every thread I can find about vise restoration (and 160+ pages of the thread where everyone shows off their vises) and learned a bunch, but I still have a few questions and I have no doubt there will be others for other tools! For now I'll limit it to vise restoration though! :thumbup:

I built my own electrolysis setup. It works great! First with rebar anodes, now with graphite (though I don't think its any cleaner, the water is black!). I've cleaned a few vises this way for friends. Nothing major in terms of rust but enough that they didn't want to wire brush it all. Once painted they looked awesome! But they were newer and so my questions here are more in reference to older/more neglected vises.

1. The handle and the tip of the lead screw, I love the look of the polished metal surface. How are you guys doing that? On my columbian it looks to be cast like the vise. I'm not sure how to get it gleaming unless I paint it, which I read here will just get screwed up in short order. I tried posting this thread yesterday, but I think due to the link to the thread with pictures, its been eaten by the spam protection. I'll try to reply to this thread in order to link to the pictures.

1b. I guess this is different, but similar to the question above. I like the jaws and slide nice and shiny too, so it relates to the above question. And is anything put on these surfaces to protect them if it is just polished?

3. I've used the Rustoleum spray paints on the body of the vises, but on mine I want the markings to pop. What is everyone using there? I was thinking craft enamel paint and a very small paint brush. Will that work?

4. The lock bolt for my newly acquired swivel vise looks similar to a carriage bolt. It has been rounded though and doesn't quite fit in the track anymore. Its very close to being able to spin (and thus not locking down the vise). I tried a 3/8 carriage bolt, and while the threads fit the locking nut with handle, it leaves a LOT of play in the track and I worry it will strip after some use. Has anyone else had this issue? Or is there some place I can find a suitable replacement?

Thanks for any help!
 
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Teter09

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I tried posting a link to my pictures of my vise, but the anti-spam is getting it. All I can say is to look at my profile and you'll see it.

Thanks again!
 

autopts

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That is a pristine old Columbian. Get some photos working thru your de-rusting and I'm sure many guys will come aboard. Got to have photos. Good luck.
 

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Teter09,
Welcome to GJ!
Since you are new you may have missed these threads on vise restoration. There are tons more on GJ I just put the ones I did. I think some of your question may be buried in these threads. Getting a shiny lead screw is all about how much time you spend. starting with 180 sandpaper, then 400, then 600 then 1000 then polishing and buffing. In most cases it is just time and a little skill. I usually stop at about 400 sandpaper. GJ memeber gatewaysysop and catalze seems to have the shinyest vises, maybe they will give some pointers. If it is cast you probably better plan on painting it. I look forward to some pictures. It took me a long time to get the pictures thing figured out.
good luck, Greg

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=122151

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=131601&highlight=gregthor

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=127723&highlight=gregthor
 
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Teter09

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Thanks guys!

I'm guessing that you only polished the handles, jaws etc Gregthor? I hadn't seen someone show that in the various restoration threads I had read. Or perhaps I missed it while wiping the drool off my keyboard!

Here are pictures of my vise.
#1 is the full vise from the top down. Over 26 inches long and covered in rust. This was before I got started on cleaning it up.

#2 is the 'T' of the handle, I'm hoping to show the texture of the handle. This is what I wasn't sure about...so everyone sands it using sand paper/wire wheels?

#3 is a closer look at the texture.

#4 is the swivel bolt on the right, newly purchased carriage bolt on the left. I hope you can see the rounding of the square portion on the swivel bolt.

#5 is the side of the jaw. I removed the screws that held it in place, but it would not budge. Do I have to pound them off to clean up behind them? Or should I remove them?

#6 just the markings I was hoping to color to make them pop. Gregthor, it looked like you used model paints and rolled them on...perhaps filling in with a small paint brush?

Hope these help. I'm excited to get going with it. I only paid $30 bucks but I'm hoping I can restore it properly and potentially pass it along to my grandkids (assuming I have kids at some point)!

Thanks all!
 

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autopts

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Am I missing something. It did come on a swivel base? I use a piece of brass bar stock and hit the side of the jaw with a hammer
 
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Teter09

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Sorry Auto... I'm asking questions regarding different vises at different restoration points.

The large Columbian is NOT a swivel base. As for the brass bar, thanks for the idea!

The photos of the swivel components and the much smaller handle is from a Chief 3 1/2 inch vise I'm restoring for a friend. He works for FSU and I thought it would be fitting if I could clean it up, paint it maroon with the markings in gold, so it would be a Seminole colored Chief Vise! :thumbup:

I thought it would be cool and mean something to him (and be better than the HF one he has), I'm sure there are a few FSU haters out there so don't bash me too hard on the color choice!. I myself went to UCF :beer:
 

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1. The handle and the tip of the lead screw, I love the look of the polished metal surface. How are you guys doing that?
Glassbead blasting followed by a wirewheel on a bench grinder.

Before & afters:

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The slides on both of those were hit with #80 on a 6in DA sander & then #220.

Buzzing them with 3in 3M scotchbrite roloc discs on a die grinder has much the same effect, but shinier, seen here:

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I had a thread like this last week and was told 3m EXL wheel for shining up the slide. Run about $40 each for 6". Haven't got one yet, but going to...
 
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