I never pay anywhere close to retail ever. Still overpriced
but oh well I can afford it.
I love Snap-On tools ..BUT
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I never pay anywhere close to retail ever. Still overpriced
but oh well I can afford it.71goldss
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dirtydogintex
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^^ +1
this dude's already has all the tools/test equipment (esp test equipment) he'll ever use and a real, real nice ride.
Evidentally he's run outta things to buy*....
* home/kiddo stuff doesn't count!! *L*
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this dude's already has all the tools/test equipment (esp test equipment) he'll ever use and a real, real nice ride.
Evidentally he's run outta things to buy*....
* home/kiddo stuff doesn't count!! *L*
Fordman7795
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The metric set has 2 less pieces and only goes to 24mm which is less than 1". Oh and its $700. Not really close to "half price".
BDT/NWMN
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That 1 1/4" semi stubby lists for $89.. it was the tool needed for the job.. Do you feel stupid or foolish for owning it?? Three hours of reduced downtime on an excavator on a jobsite ((((((((PRICE THAT OUT)))))))) for those who don't know, that can run thousands per hour.... possible that that entire set of wrenches paid for themselves in one use??? yes it is possible....... You and I understand this, and the reasons for owning good tools,,, ya, and they can be expensive,,, .............. For a good share of the majority of consumers, this set would be overkill in both needs and price...... there are lower cost and smaller sets to choose from....
My SnapOn wrenches often fit where my ProTo or Sk are just too fat and clunky..... I don't buy SnapOn tools for show and tell; but to do demanding work.... Shock: I do own my share of HF tools... truth is, I select my tools to match the job that needs to be done..
glockman
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I liken it to my $500 watch. It tells time just like a $20 one from Walmart. But, it will last 50 years and I can pass it down to one of my boys. Plus every time I look at it I smile at the craftsmanship. If you don't get the same smile on your face from owning and using items like this then it isn't worth it. I put some value on my pleasure/enjoyment. Other thugs I skimp on because I don't care about them. It's all about personal preference.
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byoungblood
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That's something that needs to be told to every teenage boy out there.
I know the fanboys and Kool-Aid drinkers will always come out with some story about how every other tool failed, and the SO saved the day to justify their price, but truth be told, SO is the most over-priced tool brand out there. They do make good tools, but they're not that much better than the other high quality brands out there. For something that breaks so rarely, paying such a premium for having a truck show up once every week or two just doesn't make sense to me. I know time is money for guys in the trade, but is it worth spending that much on a single set of wrenches?
Use them everyday for 10-12 hours then come back and say that.
Nobody I know actually pays snap on list price.
71goldss
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Kind of like paying $2.50 for a $.50 ice cream bar off the neighborhood ice cream truck. An expensive convience. I know, not quite the same, but you get the point.
This right here.
byoungblood
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Exactly.
Paying full retail or not, it is still quite a premium to pay for a piece of steel that does the job no better than another quality brand.
Wakefield
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My vote for the most overpriced tools: Running Shoes--probably cost 10x or more per weight than good tires--and they don't last for as many miles
A lot of the other wrenches out there just don't have the shape that I want. I can take a Snap-on wrench and twirl it around in my hands like the girl does with her baton at the front of a parade. The other wrenches out there just don't give me the same level of coordination.
I don't see why everybody thinks that crazy. I wrench for a living and depend on my tools and spend good money on them. I really don't used stubby wrenches that much. I have a cheap set of metrics but guna get a good set of standered soon from the mac guy. Yep I like mac more than snap on but I do like snap on too. (Their hard line stuff neways, nething rebranded I buy the oem) . Lol for tthe guys talkin abt the price being crazy "If you cant run with the big dogs, stay on the porch"
Toolhorder
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Re: I love SnapOn tools ..BUT
Those are nice but I wouldn't want them over Snappy.
Who? lol
Those are nice but I wouldn't want them over Snappy.
Who? lol
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I've been in a lot of shops, and I'm convinced peer-pressure plays a HUGE roll in tool sales.
I've seen guys harassed endlessly about nice Craftsman tool boxes and tools, even the Professional lines of each. Decent Husky boxes, Proto wrenches, etc. etc.
And the teasing ends when that Craftsman or Husky box gets replaced with a Snap-on, or the Craftsman and Proto wrenches quietly get replaced with Snap-on.
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You are 100% right about that. Every shop I've ever worked in (before owning my own) had a certain level of hazing towards techs that weren't rocking a $5K+ tool box and $10K+ worth of tools. I remember when I rolled my little 3-section Craftsman box across the floor of the first Chevrolet dealership I ever worked at. Every tech in that shop looked at me like I was some homeless dude who didn't belong there.
The amount of kids I saw fall victim to that peer pressure and buy expensive boxes they didn't need was astonishing.
Back on the original topic........My Husky stubbys have served me well for 12 years. Anyone who would pay $1000 for a stubby wrench set needs their skull checked for cracks and their wife needs to divorce them for a more financially responsible man.
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braol
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I am sure it happens, but I have never seen it. I worked at one place where I was the only mechanic and had my cheap boxes. The tire tech/general service guy had a Snapon box with hardly nothing in it and traded it in for a bigger box before he got it paid for. Several years later I finally bought a good box when I ran up on a KRL722 for $1500, kinda wish I had bought a nice box before then. It is worlds better than the other boxes I have had. My dad gave me a hard time about it when I bought it, he is the reason I took so long to buy one. He always said a tool box never made you any money.
sdguy55
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Re: I love SnapOn tools ..BUT
Highly disagree with just about everything you just posted. I actually laughed out loud at almost that entire statement.
ianguilly
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Everyone who is bitching about the price acts like they've never seen the snap on website.
dirtydogintex
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website?
Gezz...One buy a stubby set on ebay for 60% off if you must have Snap on but want to cry about it. If you buy a $100 dollar China set and take a hammer to them..they will break your Snap on Set will not. Coffee at the gas station taste like ****...it is .89cents...Starbucks is $4.00...you get what you payfor....I buy Klien tools for work...Snap on for the shop, Baldor grinders and buffers....Speedaire compressors ( made in USA ) etc...I have this set and use it all the time on the choppers...smaller wrench no paint dings...off the truck $410 and I got two of them ratcheting. If I want something I search for a deal on it...funny thing is I always find it out there cheaper...That is my two cents worth.
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That's when you take a grinder to your Pittsburgh pro and cut it down. Job done and for 22 bucks pop I can buy 3 more sets for the price of that wrench
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anndel
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Wow! I just bought a ratcheting Metric Gearwrench stubby set for $100 from my Snap On Driver.
Husky old fool
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I got an old ratchet and sockets from EBay years ago. I tried to get the ratchet replaced and my dealer wouldn't even talk
To me. If you didn't buy it from a truck, apparently they don't
Have any obligation to warranty it.
To me. If you didn't buy it from a truck, apparently they don't
Have any obligation to warranty it.
d.mcfarland
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Thread back from the dead!
Husky old fool
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I got an old ratchet and sockets from EBay years ago. I tried to get the ratchet replaced and my dealer wouldn't even talk
To me. If you didn't buy it from a truck, apparently they don't
Have any obligation to warranty it.
To me. If you didn't buy it from a truck, apparently they don't
Have any obligation to warranty it.
purplezr2
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And why should they, the warranty is for the original purchaser, this has been cover several time here.
Honestly have had no issue getting stuff that I bought second had warrantied, but I also have made purchases with my dealer so he likes me.
Husky old fool
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I work with a guy who thought he needed a bunch of tools to get going in the business, he went to Sears and over a couple months spent about 2 grand. He ended up with way more than he would have just buying from Snap on but he also has a 25% interest payment to deal with. I haven't done the math but he loses every month on that deal. Have you ever had a tool that broke and said "well, I might as well get a good one if this is going to keep happening"? Lately I've been taking stock of some things and realized if I had just bought the good one at first, that money would not have been wasted.
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I wasn't complaining, that's how I found out about that policy. Forgive me bringing up the original purchaser thing, I'm new to this.
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The only Snap-On tools I own as users is the 3/8" socket set I inherited from my Dad, (1946 with an "E" ratchet), and I don't even use these out of respect. However, I do buy and sell, and over time I have had a lot of Snap-On pass through my hands. Can't say much about the hardline tools, sockets and wrenches, they seem nice enough, but not so much so that I'm extremely impressed. Even the coarse-tooth ratchets don't seem that special to me. But the fine-tooth pears--they are something else altogether, and there is a distinct difference in their precision that is very noticeable to me. But wait, there's more...I've handled some of their specialty tools, and to me, when compared to other brands I've handled examples of, they are usually exceptional. Just the design of them seems a cut above the rest, well thought-out designs with attention to those little details other mfrs overlook. And yes, they will do the job better because of it. I've grown over the years to have a great respect for them. If I were to get back into wrenching and had the money to buy the best, I'd buy Snappy.
But there's the rub. The money. It's the perennial debate. Are they really that much better to justify the premium? For me personally, I don't think it would be wise for me to mortgage my weekly paycheck for them. Well....maybe a couple of things. But mostly I'd buy the chevy, not the Lexus, cause it will still get me where I'm going. But I wouldn't by the cheapest car made either.
But there's one aspect to this debate that seems to be continuously overlooked. It's Pride of Ownership. That's a real, tangible, inner satisfaction. It's very personal. If anybody dismisses that element, they're not viewing the whole of reality in my opinion. It's more than just getting the job done--it's the experience and satisfaction while getting the job done. Knowing that, in most cases, there's nothing better you could have in your hand (and i am talking about the HANDtools, not the impact guns, jacks, etc.). That is real, that is a part of enjoying life, and it has a genuine value. Don't forget that personal service from the truck either. But...the money you save by buying another brand can be used toward similarly satisfying things, like the $60,000 bass boat complete with the thousands in the finest tackle.
So you can't just empirically state that Snap-On tools are not worth the money without considering the whole package. I can say that a Lexus is not worth the money to me, but I can't say the Lexus is not worth the money, period. And I'd never put down the person who decided to buy the Lexus....I get it and appreciate it.
But there's the rub. The money. It's the perennial debate. Are they really that much better to justify the premium? For me personally, I don't think it would be wise for me to mortgage my weekly paycheck for them. Well....maybe a couple of things. But mostly I'd buy the chevy, not the Lexus, cause it will still get me where I'm going. But I wouldn't by the cheapest car made either.
But there's one aspect to this debate that seems to be continuously overlooked. It's Pride of Ownership. That's a real, tangible, inner satisfaction. It's very personal. If anybody dismisses that element, they're not viewing the whole of reality in my opinion. It's more than just getting the job done--it's the experience and satisfaction while getting the job done. Knowing that, in most cases, there's nothing better you could have in your hand (and i am talking about the HANDtools, not the impact guns, jacks, etc.). That is real, that is a part of enjoying life, and it has a genuine value. Don't forget that personal service from the truck either. But...the money you save by buying another brand can be used toward similarly satisfying things, like the $60,000 bass boat complete with the thousands in the finest tackle.
So you can't just empirically state that Snap-On tools are not worth the money without considering the whole package. I can say that a Lexus is not worth the money to me, but I can't say the Lexus is not worth the money, period. And I'd never put down the person who decided to buy the Lexus....I get it and appreciate it.
I bought the Williams USA stubbies for around $3 each some are even on Cripes.
can't be that much better than Williams except full polish.
I don't mind them being that high the market will dictate the price if no one buys them they will drop in price. That looks like some government contract gouging though.
can't be that much better than Williams except full polish.
I don't mind them being that high the market will dictate the price if no one buys them they will drop in price. That looks like some government contract gouging though.
All this hooplah over a set of $1,000 stubby wrenches? Wow, SO really struck a chord with this one.
FWIW, here is my 2¢. I've been wrenching for many years, I've used and own(ed) craftsman USA, Sk, SO, Mac, Matco and even Husky, Kobalt, HF. I own my own shop and when the shop is busy I'll grab the first tool I see. Every once in a while I'll lay my hand on a craftsman ratchet or a Husky wrench, etc... I'm here to tell you that aside from warranties, replacements, tool truck, credit, blah blah blah... There is no substitute for the high end tools. The lesser wrenches spread and flex, the ratchets have a ton of slop, the sockets aren't the right size/spec, bits twist and break, the problems are numerous.
When you're getting paid/billing flat rate you can't afford to be breaking tools, rounding or stripping nuts and bolts. Or more importantly breaking or cutting hands and fingers when a wrench or socket slips off a fastener.
I'll pay the extra money to not have to extract fasteners or be down due to injuries.
Quality tools are just as much safety equipment as are safety glasses, gloves, face shields and welding gear.
My $.02
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FWIW, here is my 2¢. I've been wrenching for many years, I've used and own(ed) craftsman USA, Sk, SO, Mac, Matco and even Husky, Kobalt, HF. I own my own shop and when the shop is busy I'll grab the first tool I see. Every once in a while I'll lay my hand on a craftsman ratchet or a Husky wrench, etc... I'm here to tell you that aside from warranties, replacements, tool truck, credit, blah blah blah... There is no substitute for the high end tools. The lesser wrenches spread and flex, the ratchets have a ton of slop, the sockets aren't the right size/spec, bits twist and break, the problems are numerous.
When you're getting paid/billing flat rate you can't afford to be breaking tools, rounding or stripping nuts and bolts. Or more importantly breaking or cutting hands and fingers when a wrench or socket slips off a fastener.
I'll pay the extra money to not have to extract fasteners or be down due to injuries.
Quality tools are just as much safety equipment as are safety glasses, gloves, face shields and welding gear.
My $.02
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Re: I love SnapOn tools ..BUT
It is called a con. Snap On is a subprime lending and marketing company that preys upon some of the most vulnerable members of society using FUD and outright lies.
Your bullet points are BS. The rookie mechanic should be spending his work time wrenching, not shopping at the toy truck.
Here is a question nobody has been able to answer. You are a rookie mechanic and you break your 9/16ths Snap On wrench. How many days does it take for the Snap On truck to visit your shop again? So you cannot finish the job until the truck comes back. How is that "easy warranty." Easy warranty is buying the tire changer guy lunch and sending him to the local HF, Sears, HD etc...
It is called a con. Snap On is a subprime lending and marketing company that preys upon some of the most vulnerable members of society using FUD and outright lies.
Your bullet points are BS. The rookie mechanic should be spending his work time wrenching, not shopping at the toy truck.
Here is a question nobody has been able to answer. You are a rookie mechanic and you break your 9/16ths Snap On wrench. How many days does it take for the Snap On truck to visit your shop again? So you cannot finish the job until the truck comes back. How is that "easy warranty." Easy warranty is buying the tire changer guy lunch and sending him to the local HF, Sears, HD etc...
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If this were true, you would not even have those "lesser brands" in your shop? Why would you take the risk? Thank you for providing a perfect example of the FUD spread around about Snap On tools.
Simple answer? Time, older "spare tools". I absolutely have FUD instilled in me, as you put it. I almost lost my left foot when a vehicle fell off a jack that gave out next to me and pinned my foot under the brake rotor, and after I cut off half of my index finger. So yea, I have a little bit of fear. I'm not keen on losing any more parts or sustaining any more severe injuries.
Are all of my tools SO? No, obviously not. But the ones I consider most important, most commonly used, or could cause an injury if they malfunction... yes they're all SO, Matco, SK, etc.
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Are all of my tools SO? No, obviously not. But the ones I consider most important, most commonly used, or could cause an injury if they malfunction... yes they're all SO, Matco, SK, etc.
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Hopefully not this set
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0147BOTU4/?tag=atomicindus08-20
I always wondered that too, many people say the "truck" guy comes on Tuesday or Thursday or Friday or whatever day. What do you do when you break that tool 45minutes after he leaves? I have a few snap on tools at work, and a few at home, but I never bought into the whole "You SHOULD OWN 10K IN SNAP ON TOOLS TO WRENCH" mantra. Even as a professional mechanic, I guess I avoided that
Hopefully not this set
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0147BOTU4/?tag=atomicindus08-20
I always wondered that too, many people say the "truck" guy comes on Tuesday or Thursday or Friday or whatever day. What do you do when you break that tool 45minutes after he leaves? I have a few snap on tools at work, and a few at home, but I never bought into the whole "You SHOULD OWN 10K IN SNAP ON TOOLS TO WRENCH" mantra. Even as a professional mechanic, I guess I avoided that