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I love the stories that come out of this thread! Not only am I in awe of the knowledge necessary to be able to sort and collect all of the parts that belong to a given engine, but then you saving them until you found the perfect situation for them... If this was the first time this had happened, good on you... The fact that this is just the Nth time in this journey alone... You inspire me sir!

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Thomas, at first I thought you were going to tell us the engine was a rare race engine. The story, as told had great content and shows a happy grandson. It would be cool if he didn't put it in the Chrysler, and instead just powder coated everything for display at a suitable location. :thumbup: Dennis

PS. Congrats on #6000
 

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So his truck was backed up to the barn and...

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...everything was off to a new home, but still in the family. He has his Dad's '34 Chrysler roadster that needs some attention and is thinking this flat head might be a suitable power plant for it as well, even if it is a Ford. :eek: Photographs of it are in the works, stand by...

How I LOVE buckets full of FH parts!!! Hauled a few home myself last summer and the blocks are ready to go for machining.
 
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[So more "new" old material is still surfacing about the old "Restored 1930's Auto Shop". A big thank you to everyone who, for the last 5,999 posts, have shown remarkable support and provided additional material that has made this thread so interesting and informative. :bowdown: The saga continues...........

Respectful Thomas[/QUOTE]



Wow, another great story Thomas. And once again, not surprising to any of us, you did the absolute right thing. Good on ya'.
 
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Thomas, at first I thought you were going to tell us the engine was a rare race engine......


.... just powder coated everything for display at a suitable location. :thumbup: Dennis

PS. Congrats on #6000

Dennis, you mean like the part I forgot to tell about the flat head being a rare Harry Miller "one-off" engine that ran in a 1930's Indianapolis 500 but was subsequently banned by USAC officials because it put out too much power, that kind of rare race engine? :D

It was the only flat head I've ever owned and since Gus didn't need a new engine, I was going to rebuild it and display it in the old shop. Before the "Y" manifold migrated to California I was going to install that on it as well with a setup much like Jacob eventually put on it. All in all both those items are now in more appropriate hands and not wanting to be greedy, I've many other treasures to contend with out there. As it is, I am still "living the dream", honest and truly, just ask Chris. ;)

Counting My Blessings Thomas
 

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OK, here a "bone" for you Dug. I'll get more on later.

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This may be the world's longest hammer handle??? :dunno:

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Comes in at about 42 1/2" (little over 1 meter) of pure whacking pleasure. The head is nicely fitted and quite secure. Someone took great effort to create this. At first I thought it had something to do with his forge and staying away from heat, but there's no evidence of the head or handle being near great heat so that's probably not right, plus it's a small ball peen. I'm open to any thoughts on this one. I've found another stash of hand tools that the long handled hammer was in now uncovered that I'll get on here.

2.000 posts and 100 pages........I've GOT to get an index going for this thread..... :sad:

Thomas
I haven't seen one of these for nearly 40 years. It was used by wheel inspectors on railroads ( Wheel tappers) to check for loose parts such as the steel tires on the car wheels by giving them a tap. If they rang with a clear note they were OK, a loose tire has a dull sound. So the long handle made it easy to get a rhythm going as you walked along a track beside wagons whacking each wheel .
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I haven't seen one of these for nearly 40 years. It was used by wheel inspectors on railroads ( Wheel tappers) to check for loose parts such as the steel tires on the car wheels by giving them a tap. If they rang with a clear note they were OK, a loose tire has a dull sound. So the long handle made it easy to get a rhythm going as you walked along a track beside wagons whacking each wheel .
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Hello Ronny. Wow, finally the mystery of the Long Handled Hammer Puzzle (LHHP) solved!! You are 'Da Man!! I would never have figured that one out without your kind assistance. I see you are a Garage Journal board member here of many years and save your postings only for timely matters. I'm so grateful you took a moment to help us out and am deeply in your debt good sir. :bowdown:

The variety and range of items found in and about this property continues to amaze me. I'm glad everyone reading this thread is opened minded and isn't locked into just garage "stuff" here. This isn't what I had in mind when I started this thread but look what it's morphed into? Variety is the spice of life after all. I've always thought that just reading this thread will be the equivalent of a college education. :lol: At the rate we're accumulating material here, it just might amount to a Masters degree or even a Ph.D. More history and test material for you Chris.

Thank you again so very much Ronny for sharing with us.

A wiser Thomas
 
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Ah, life in TCOTU, but I must state: Your greatest treasure, is your Beautiful Bride!......

I couldn't have said better myself Bill. What other wife would be thrilled to find out we have a railroad inspector's wheel tapper hammer at the shop now? (well, maybe the Leewit would). Chris is a keeper for sure. TLC :bounce:

Love Struck Thomas
 

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Tom & Chris-

I just had a chance to catch up with your amazing stories. I have to tell you both how appropriate it seems that the 6000th post highlights your thoughtfulness and generosity!

Thank you again for reminding all of us that it is sometimes the simplest gestures that define our lives.

Good luck with the new home project- we'll look forward to more stories from the "Center of the Universe!".

GGB
 

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A railroad hammer. I wonder how many shops have one of those laying around?
Thomas your shop must be one of the best equipped for almost any job.
I need to make a trip to "The Center of the Universe" one of these days to see it all in person.
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How I LOVE buckets full of FH parts!!! Hauled a few home myself last summer and the blocks are ready to go for machining.

e-tek I always enjoy you posting here and your, um, er, uh.............intriguing avatars have nothing to do with it, honest. ;)

Wide Eyed Thomas
 
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Thomas, As I said somewhere before; you got my attention. Today I went out to one of several re-purpose places around Wash DC, and purchased three very nice matching oak cabinets with doors for $18.00 They are of the dimensions that fit my plan for the garage. I'll still have too build some for specific use/fitment. Sooo...things are underway. :bounce: Dennis

Way to go Dennis. Someone once asked me how I possibly got that shop restored in the short time it took considering what I started with. Everyday I would do something out there no matter how small to keep the project moving. Even today when I'm walking the grounds my eyes are on the ground, looking for bits of metal, chips of windshield glass anything that has surfaced or that I missed earlier. While I haven't gotten it all, it is now largely cleaned up and it's getting harder and harder to find left over trash.

Now that your garage project is underway, everyday do something, anything to keep it moving forward. I think you'll find that will keep your motivation up. Keep us posted with your progress.

Oh and about my 2.80 GPA here, well someone has to round out the curve............on the bottom end. :eek:

Thomas
 

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What great way to celebrate the page and post counts! This thread keeps on giving and giving. That's why it's a 'MUST READ' when I log onto GJ.

Congrats, guys!
 

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I couldn't have said better myself Bill. What other wife would be thrilled to find out we have a railroad inspector's wheel tapper hammer at the shop now? (well, maybe the Leewit would). Chris is a keeper for sure. TLC :bounce:

Love Struck Thomas

I would in fact be thrilled. Very confused, if it indeed did come out of our suburban 80's tract house garage, but thrilled nonetheless! And if you're in any way comparing me to your wife I am counting myself in very good company.

300 pages is an impressive mark. Here's to 300 more! :beer:
 
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All righty then, for all those truck enthusiasts, as per a couple of requests on the red, 1991 Chevy Silverado pickup that's been lurking in the background of the barn. Here are a few pictures of it.

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As I mentioned it's a 1991 Silverado 2500. That means it's already 21 years old now! You don't see them with just these standard cabs much anymore, most are extended.


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I took these parked in its barn slot so it's hard to get a decent side profile view of it.

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The only items replaced have been normal service items, filters, the tires and battery. That's it, everything else, paint, exhaust etc are all factory original.

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Note what it says on the plastic covering the carpet, "dealer must remove protective cover" It's just been left on. Well, it's a work truck and that's helped keep it clean.

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I use a piece of plywood to protect the bed if I'm hauling something that I think will damage the paint. It's only original once. The paint has held up extremely well, I have on quite pleased with it. Did I ever mention red is a favorite color of mine? :dunno:

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It's been easy to keep clean...

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... I just don't let "gunk" build up.

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It's been my tow vehicle primarily and given faithful, trouble free service. A "Clean Machine". :thumbup:

Thomas
 
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A railroad hammer. I wonder how many shops have one of those laying around?
Thomas your shop must be one of the best equipped for almost any job.
I need to make a trip to "The Center of the Universe" one of these days to see it all in person.
Vince

The welcome mat is out for all our friends here. Try to give us a heads up and we'll do what we can to accommodate you. It's all about sharing.

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I would in fact be thrilled. Very confused, if it indeed did come out of our suburban 80's tract house garage, but thrilled nonetheless! And if you're in any way comparing me to your wife I am counting myself in very good company.

300 pages is an impressive mark. Here's to 300 more! :beer:

If you want 300 more pages your youngster must be really keeping you up late!

I have no doubt your husband is as lucky as I am. Understanding, supportive and patient wives are sooooooooo hard to find these days. Dad always told me to "find a good one and then just keep her." :)

Thomas
 

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Aw c'mon Thomas, it's not April 1; quit kidding us! A pristine 21 year-old truck with the delivery plastic covering still intact? Honest Injun? I've just got to believe you bought that truck new and had it carefully flat-bedded to a temperature/humidity controlled vault, encased it in a huge hermetically-sealed plastic cocoon and just brought it out for the pictures to spoof us poor fools at GJ. We all know you take EXCELLENT care of all your collection, but that truck's condition is just tooooo beautiful to be believed! All I can say is that Gus must feel he has died and gone to 'Truck Heaven' known to all here as Philo, The Center of the Universe. :angel:
 

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The back of the Johnson grandson's work truck in post 6000 shows a family connection to Mr. Johnson for sure. Similarly, the back of your truck (heck, ALL of your truck!) shows a connection to you that is just as strong. I suspect that your sense of 'a place for everything and everything in its place' is major motivation for not just the cleanliness of your projects and vehicles but also your sense of responsibility to return tools and parts and such to their 'rightful owners'.


Well done on all counts.:)
 
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Tom is the second owner of that pickup - bought from the estate of a local farmer. Ray was just as compulsive (in a good way) about clean vehicles and everything being in its place. I'm sure Tom will fill in the "history" here.

(Joe, that truck does get a workout as a tow vehicle and gets pampered if hauling anything in the bed.)

Notice that there are no headrests on the back of the seats in the cab. Makes for a tiring long drive when towing to drag races or car shows. I never thought I would miss a head rest. Interesting how things have changed in so few years. Never mind that I have never driven that vehicle (not the 66 Lincoln, the corvette, the VR-4, Gus, or any of the tractors/riding mowers. I think I drove one of the Impalas once.). Being a passenger is not very comfortable on a long trip, either!

It doesn't seem right that 1992 was 20 years ago, but then we thought that 30 years old (in the 50s/60s/70s) and then 40 years old (once we passed 30) was "over the hill" back then and 60 years old was an "old" grandparent. I've reached the first two and will get to the third milestone next year (beating Tom by two months). My how our views (well, mine) change the closer we get to 60!

Every day's a blessing!

Chris
 

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Does an Omni GLH count? Wish we still had it. We owned several Omni/Horizon's from their first year of intro to their last. A great car for my needs. I wish we still had at least one. (One of the GLHSs that Carroll Shelby bought from the last run would be good.)

Chris
 
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All righty then, for all those truck enthusiasts, as per a couple of requests on the red, 1991 Chevy Silverado pickup that's been lurking in the background of the barn. Here are a few pictures of it.

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It's been my tow vehicle primarily and given faithful, trouble free service. A "Clean Machine". :thumbup:

Thomas

Thomas that truck looks great and I have no doubt that you really use it as a truck is meant to be used. But with the original paint looking that good does it get driven in the winter too? Not trying to be a wise-guy at all but it sure is hard to find trucks that age looking that good. Any tips or secrets other than keeping them super clean? Whatever it is you've done a great job with this one.
 

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Thanks for the background on the truck! After 21 years, I don't even think I could keep the plastic on the floor in that nice of shape. I bet you were one of those kids that kept the boxes for all his toys (I was too).
 

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Holy ****. That truck!

My father had a 1990 Silverado 1500, w/ a 350. Two-tone dark red on top and bottom and white in the middle. I could describe that truck to you down to the scratches and dings (few) on it, I've regretted that thing since the day we sold it. It was the first vehicle I drove and someday I will own one again.
 

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Carroll Shelby one would be cool ..But other than that .Them cars are mostly disowned by mopar guys ! ..I did own 2 of them..my wife was not fond of them LOL
 

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so here i am on page 59 and i can't stop now. only 250 plus to go. love it! found the link on the bgw golf gart site. neat stuff. not a waste of time, just a user. but then at my age what else a i going to do! oh, if i only had 1/3 of your energy. jim :thumbup:
 

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Tom is the second owner of that pickup - bought from the estate of a local farmer. Ray was just as compulsive (in a good way) about clean vehicles and everything being in its place. I'm sure Tom will fill in the "history" here.

(Joe, that truck does get a workout as a tow vehicle and gets pampered if hauling anything in the bed.)

Notice that there are no headrests on the back of the seats in the cab. Makes for a tiring long drive when towing to drag races or car shows. I never thought I would miss a head rest. Interesting how things have changed in so few years. Never mind that I have never driven that vehicle (not the 66 Lincoln, the corvette, the VR-4, Gus, or any of the tractors/riding mowers. I think I drove one of the Impalas once.). Being a passenger is not very comfortable on a long trip, either!

It doesn't seem right that 1992 was 20 years ago, but then we thought that 30 years old (in the 50s/60s/70s) and then 40 years old (once we passed 30) was "over the hill" back then and 60 years old was an "old" grandparent. I've reached the first two and will get to the third milestone next year (beating Tom by two months). My how our views (well, mine) change the closer we get to 60!

Every day's a blessing!

Chris

Where did I miss this '66 Lincoln at? Honestly, I really try to keep up and I'm not going to tell you that the dog ate my homework, but I've missed out on the '66. I really don't think I fell asleep in class.

I just know I'm headed for the Principals office now!!! :(
 

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Kev64,
You must have been asleep! How could you miss a picture of both Tom and me in the same picture with our very first collector car (as a couple). Or, since it was (relatively) near the beginning of this thread (post 781) , you weren't aware of how important each and every post is. Surely by post 1256 or 1709 you had caught on, otherwise you wouldn't still be with us in the vortex!

I'm still working on that study guide to help everyone on the eventual test ...

Having fun in the Center of the Universe,

Chris
 

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Kev64,

I'm still working on that study guide to help everyone on the eventual test ...

Having fun in the Center of the Universe,

Chris

Study guides will be no good for most of us. Brain implants will be the only answer!

This is simply the best single thread I've ever found on the internet and I've read probably more than my allotment.

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Aw c'mon Thomas, it's not April 1; quit kidding us! A pristine 21 year-old truck with the delivery plastic covering still intact? Honest Injun? I've just got to believe you bought that truck new and had it carefully flat-bedded to a temperature/humidity controlled vault, encased it in a huge hermetically-sealed plastic cocoon and just brought it out for the pictures to spoof us poor fools at GJ. We all know you take EXCELLENT care of all your collection, but that truck's condition is just tooooo beautiful to be believed! All I can say is that Gus must feel he has died and gone to 'Truck Heaven' known to all here as Philo, The Center of the Universe. :angel:

The back of the Johnson grandson's work truck in post 6000 shows a family connection to Mr. Johnson for sure. Similarly, the back of your truck (heck, ALL of your truck!) shows a connection to you that is just as strong. I suspect that your sense of 'a place for everything and everything in its place' is major motivation for not just the cleanliness of your projects and vehicles but also your sense of responsibility to return tools and parts and such to their 'rightful owners'.


Well done on all counts.:)

Thomas that truck looks great and I have no doubt that you really use it as a truck is meant to be used. But with the original paint looking that good does it get driven in the winter too? Not trying to be a wise-guy at all but it sure is hard to find trucks that age looking that good. Any tips or secrets other than keeping them super clean? Whatever it is you've done a great job with this one.

Thanks for the background on the truck! After 21 years, I don't even think I could keep the plastic on the floor in that nice of shape. I bet you were one of those kids that kept the boxes for all his toys (I was too).

For all you "old hands" that have been reading this thread for a while you know that periodically there are, uh, pauses in the action as it were, while I'm gone, hard at work in my office at 37,000'. But they always seem to let me back in the country, so far at least, so I can get some updates on here and this is just such as occasion. Just in from Brazil and before I take a nap I wanted to catch up.

- Omphaloskeptic - Honest Injun, what you see is what you get! It is kept in an environmentally controlled space, the barn, which is not only heated but humidity controlled too. That keeps away any big temperature fluctuations and prevents, or at least slows down, rust from forming on all the bare metal surfaces. I got a call 7 years ago from a local drag racing buddy who wanted me to buy his late uncle's farm truck. He wanted it to go to a good home where it would be well cared for much as Uncle Ray had done and thought I'd fit the bill. It had 25,000 miles on it when I got it and at present shows 52,000 + miles. I'm trying to be a good custodian of it. Gus is parked 2 slots down and reportedly is indeed very happy with his lot in life at the moment. :)

- utahdog2003 - What an interesting observation about family organizational habits, or the lack there of. It worked for Mr. Johnson and it seems to work for his grandson but it just doesn't work for me. Not saying one is better than the other, just different. To each his own, huh?

- impala4speed - Uncle Ray never drove the truck in the winter, nor have I, at least not when there is any hint of salt around. It was rust proofed with Ziebart when new which seems to help. I protect the bed floor with plywood and protect the insides and top of the bed with furniture blankets when necessary. Keep it waxed regularly really protects that paint. GM generally didn't do all that good a job with paint back then so I try to compensate by taking especially good care of it. So far it seems to be working. Note the big ugly mud flaps on all 4 wheel wells. They look nasty but they sure prevent the lower rocker panels from getting chewed up. Form follows function. It is a work truck in the sense that I use it to haul "stuff" and it tows my rig around the country but I don't earn a living with it. That makes a difference I suspect. I also have a cargo van which is used extensively.

- Mavawreck - um, yes I did. :eek: In fact I still have a few of those boxes left, toys intact. :dunno:

Off to a nap and I expect to get my latest powder coat project on here later so please check back.

Thomas
 
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Oh, and one thing more of interest while we're on the subject of pickup trucks...

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...one of the Roadster Club members had this Mack pickup at Bonneville last summer...

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...I don't know a thing about this series....

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...maybe you do? :dunno: I just thought it was waaaaay cool. :thumbup:

Thomas
 
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