The VISES of Garage Journal

[dirtydogintex]

Fills in the gap tween 2 1/2 and 3 1/2, eh?

Nice!!

 

[gapfast]

Anybody want to dp some trading? Wanting a bigger vise. I throw some greenbacks in!!
Columbian 503

 

[Catalyze]

QUOTE]

Like most Trogan's, it will come in handy and never let you down when you need it. Also they are reliable when holding wood![/QUOTE]


I knew Autopts was using ****** grease on his vise's lead screws! He has way too much Trojan knowledge to be coincidence.
Craig

 

[Catalyze]

Bigcaddy - I like how Prentiss models used numbers that made sense only about half the time. At least Parker would toss in a fraction (1/2) on their later models. Before that time I think most vise makers were suffering from WWI mustard gas when they numbered vises. Nice baby Prentiss in any case!!
Craig (owner of a sensible 525 and 524)

 

[bigcaddy]

Today was not looking too bright since it was raining pretty hard and my lists of stops was very short. The first stop netted me no tools but some other items that should be of use to me.

As i headed home, i saw a little sign for a garage sale. The garage was dirty and messy so i jumped right in. It didn't take long to figure out that all of the tools were piled up and sold in the first few minutes but i did see this vise on a guys pile.

He bought the vise and didn't want to budge at 40.00 but he folded at 50.00 as he loaded it into his van. I wanted to look at what else he bought but he seemed irritable. I also grabbed a nice PanaVise for 5.00

 

[autopts]

Today was not looking too bright since it was raining pretty hard and my lists of stops was very short. The first stop netted me no tools but some other items that should be of use to me.

As i headed home, i saw a little sign for a garage sale. The garage was dirty and messy so i jumped right in. It didn't take long to figure out that all of the tools were piled up and sold in the first few minutes but i did see this vise on a guys pile.

He bought the vise and didn't want to budge at 40.00 but he folded at 50.00 as he loaded it into his van. I wanted to look at what else he bought but he seemed irritable. I also grabbed a nice PanaVise for 5.00

You did well Mr.Big For heading home. Wilton made that 640 series here . That looks like a 645 and its in very nice shape too. PanaVise is not my cup of tea but as always, you did well.

 

[bigcaddy]

You did well Mr.Big For heading home. Wilton made that 640 series here . That looks like a 645 and its in very nice shape too. PanaVise is not my cup of tea but as always, you did well.

Thanks, Autopts. The panavise isn't the best score but at 5.00, i couldn't go wrong. It cleaned up nicely and should net me a few bucks on ebay

The vise is a 645 and is in pretty nice shape. A few nicks on the jaw towers and a small piece missing under one of the jaw inserts supports but it will clean up nicely.

 

[Outlawmws]

Nice job on the Prentiss BC! And good score on the vices! I have several different Panavices, they are useful for certain work, but useless for what the big vises excel at, but then I wouldn't be holding delicate electronics and PC boards in one of those big guys either...

 

[Mohawk Dave]

Just picked up a Rock Island No 594, 4 1/2" for $35. Came from a trans shop, so no rust. I almost don't want to paint it since it is such clean bare metal. But a nice paint job gives it some spirit...

 

[Duck tape Bill]

Here are my two vises that will be added to my workbench when I get it done:

This one was given to me by my father, but it was originally used in the workshop at my great grandparent's waterwheel powered mill around the turn of the century (1900)... you can see some pictures of the mill here: http://millpictures.com/mills.php?millid=1359
I haven't been able to find much information about Sampson vises, and I've never seen a no.1142 anywhere, so any info would be appreciated. It's got a 5" jaw, and a swivel base that works by loosening a large center bolt from underneath.

Here's the second one, a Sheldon quick-release wood vise, that was once my grandfather's. I'm not sure how old it is, so if anyone knows when they were made I'd love to know.

 

[Bret888]

Reed 103 repair

Several months ago, I bought this little Reed at a flea market. It was missing the support under the dynamic jaw, and a chunk out of the back was also broken out. It was only $12 and I thought I could scab something on for a jaw support, and make a usable small vise out of it. I wish I had taken better pictures of it when I got it, but I didn't intend on it ever amounting to much.
I took a piece if 1X2" plate, drilled and counterbored 2 holes lengthwise, and ran 2-3/8 SHCS's 1 1/4" into the casting, for a jaw support. It worked well, and would have been fine to use as is, but I wanted to do something with the other broken piece. I took it to a guy that has welded cast iron all day, every day, since 1971, and asked if he could fill that broken corner. He said yes, and asked if I wanted to fill in around the 1X2, and I said sure, if he had time. It too a while, because he is pretty busy, but he got it done. Everything you see, except the 1X2 is Ni rod filler.

 

[RivennHewn]

Picked up a wilton 1750.

Even with the "Right Price", it's going to be a project.

Both of the jaw inserts are missing, and all four mounting screws are broken off and rusty/stuck.

I already know the answer, but what's the best way to remove the broken screws?

 

[Mohawk Dave]

Reed 103 repair

Several months ago, I bought this little Reed at a flea market. It was missing the support under the dynamic jaw, and a chunk out of the back was also broken out. It was only $12 and I thought I could scab something on for a jaw support, and make a usable small vise out of it. I wish I had taken better pictures of it when I got it, but I didn't intend on it ever amounting to much.
I took a piece if 1X2" plate, drilled and counterbored 2 holes lengthwise, and ran 2-3/8 SHCS's 1 1/4" into the casting, for a jaw support. It worked well, and would have been fine to use as is, but I wanted to do something with the other broken piece. I took it to a guy that has welded cast iron all day, every day, since 1971, and asked if he could fill that broken corner. He said yes, and asked if I wanted to fill in around the 1X2, and I said sure, if he had time. It too a while, because he is pretty busy, but he got it done. Everything you see, except the 1X2 is Ni rod filler.

AWESOME!!! I will have no problem buying old busted vises on the cheap now. That looks great!

 

[C.BRAXMAIER]

Just cleaned up my Chas Parker, i'll have about 7 more, i just have to get out there and do it..

 

[Catalyze]

Brax - very nice and stately Parker! That is a nice specimen of their bread and butter vise.

Bret - that is a gorgeous weld job!! My hat is off to the welder....haven't seen any better repair on old iron. Good effort on keeping that old vise alive and working.

Dave - you just have to like old Rock Island vises....they are so nifty looking. I agree that yours looks very nice in bare metal.

Bigthief - as always, nice Wilton grab! That would be a great all around vise for any shop projects. Good size....not so stout that it requires 1/2" steel bench top. With all your vise purchases lately, I am starting to like Autopts more and more.
Craig

 

[C.BRAXMAIER]

Also just picked this wilton 6'' up have not really done anything to it yet just getting it ready for the wire wheel...

 

[C.BRAXMAIER]

Here is some of my Reeds....

 

[bl00]

Here are my two vises that will be added to my workbench when I get it done:

I haven't been able to find much information about Sampson vises, and I've never seen a no.1142 anywhere, so any info would be appreciated.

I'm of the opinion that Samson was made for Sears by Rock Island. The same vises were later sold under the Craftsman name when that brand was created. Sears catalogs from around 1910- mid 1920s may have listings for your vise.

 

[autopts]

Picked up a wilton 1750.

Even with the "Right Price", it's going to be a project.

Both of the jaw inserts are missing, and all four mounting screws are broken off and rusty/stuck.

I already know the answer, but what's the best way to remove the broken screws?

The jaws are cheap. I'll let the other 20 members give you their suggestions on broken screw removal.

 

[Mark in Indiana]

Picked up a wilton 1750.

Even with the "Right Price", it's going to be a project.

Both of the jaw inserts are missing, and all four mounting screws are broken off and rusty/stuck.

I already know the answer, but what's the best way to remove the broken screws?

Regarding the broken screws:
1. Put some drops of penetrating oil made from a 50/50 mix of acetone and transmission fluid on the screws and let soak for a few hours.
2. If you can't grab the broken screws with pliers, cut a slot in the top of the broken screw with the cut off wheel of a Dremel.

 

[autopts]

Here is some of my Reeds....

BRAX! Two irreplaceable beauties!! I haven't seen two together that were made about the same time. I'll keep an eye out for a Reed base, one size smaller then the 104 base. Do you think the 103 had a 4 bolt mounting also?

 

[C.BRAXMAIER]

BRAX! Two irreplaceable beauties!! I haven't seen two together that were made about the same time. I'll keep an eye out for a Reed base, one size smaller then the 104 base. Do you think the 103 had a 4 bolt mounting also?

That would be outstanding if i could get a base for that one, I thinking yes on the 4 bolt mounting.

 

[jeffmoss26]

I'm of the opinion that Samson was made for Sears by Rock Island. The same vises were later sold under the Craftsman name when that brand was created. Sears catalogs from around 1910- mid 1920s may have listings for your vise.

I have Samson vise that I scored at a garage sale last year. One of the guys on here found an ad from Sears with the exact vise...you may be on to something!

 

[bigcaddy]

Its been a busy past few weeks with Thanksgiving, Christmas and now, New Years just about to happen but i was able to finally sneak back in the garage and apply a water transfer decal, (thanks, Thundermug!) to my Wilton 400S and finish it off.

I is one of the cleanest restos i've done to date but i started off with a really clean vise. The bumpers are original and the jaws are in great shape. The only real "damage" to the vise was on the anvil area, which i hand filed to make it as smooth as possible

 

[mcmlvif100]

eBay ad -- Not mine and no association but perhaps of interest to someone closer to CT

http://www.ebay.com/itm/HEAVY-DUTY-...5?pt=BI_Tool_Work_Holding&hash=item2326a27783

Item location: Danbury, Connecticut

1 HEAVY DUTY VISE WITH STAND.

VERY GOOD CONDITION AND IS WORTH $150 - WILL LOAD IF NEEDED.

CALL AGI OR JACK AT 203-748-8564

 

[cwneal]

Just picked this one up for a pretty good deal. Unable to determine what model it is tho. In the last picture it has a few numbers stamped, i think it read 101167. Is that the model number? It looks to have a different number on the other jaw. Any ideas? The jaws measure 3.5" wide and opens 5". I plan on restoring this vise, as previous owner spray painted it.

 

[C.BRAXMAIER]

Its been a busy past few weeks with Thanksgiving, Christmas and now, New Years just about to happen but i was able to finally sneak back in the garage and apply a water transfer decal, (thanks, Thundermug!) to my Wilton 400S and finish it off.

I is one of the cleanest restos i've done to date but i started off with a really clean vise. The bumpers are original and the jaws are in great shape. The only real "damage" to the vise was on the anvil area, which i hand filed to make it as smooth as possible

Thats a nice restore, I never thought of using a hand file for that

 

[bigcaddy]

Your Wilton is the smallest of their combination vise sizes and is a C0. The next size up is a C1 with 4 1/2" wide jaws.

 

[bigcaddy]

Thats a nice restore, I never thought of using a hand file for that

Nor did i but the internal gears on my belt sander exploded, leaving me with no way to grind it smooth. The file works great but the downside is you just can't close your hand later that night

 

[Arachnotron]

Just picked this one up for a pretty good deal. Unable to determine what model it is tho. In the last picture it has a few numbers stamped, i think it read 101167. Is that the model number? It looks to have a different number on the other jaw. Any ideas? The jaws measure 3.5" wide and opens 5". I plan on restoring this vise, as previous owner spray painted it.

You can get new pipe jaws for it here: http://wiltonviseparts.net/wilton-c0-pipe-jaws/

The seller is a member here.

 

[autopts]

Also just picked this wilton 6'' up have not really done anything to it yet just getting it ready for the wire wheel...

Christ! Are big vises falling from the sky around you Chris? ........Guys, that's a C3 with the older 600 style jaws on it. Wilton does not make that jaw design anymore and its too bad. That's was a hell of a setup.. The Dynamic jaw is so heavy with the pipe jaw in, it can't support its own weight even when the base is properly positioned. It tilts forward. Also, that close up of the channel bar? That's a steel bar that actually pressed into the Dynamic jaw. If Chris takes that collar off, he will see the top of the dowel which sets and keeps that bar in place. That's a great find!!

 

[autopts]

Its been a busy past few weeks with Thanksgiving, Christmas and now, New Years just about to happen but i was able to finally sneak back in the garage and apply a water transfer decal, (thanks, Thundermug!) to my Wilton 400S and finish it off.

I is one of the cleanest restos i've done to date but i started off with a really clean vise. The bumpers are original and the jaws are in great shape. The only real "damage" to the vise was on the anvil area, which i hand filed to make it as smooth as possible

Did Wilton Tool Co. move down the street from you? You make me sick!!!!! That sir, is a beauty!

 

[rusty65]

Hey Neal the model number for your Wilton is c-0 and is a very nice vise my personal user is a c-1 which is the bigger brother to yours.

 

[cwneal]

Thanks guys. Appreciate it. Already got it all apart. Now to blast it, paint, and reassemble. Anyone know where to get two new pins at?

 

[Mark in Indiana]

Just drive out the remaining pin and take it to any industrial supply house.


Happy New Year Vise Friends!

 

[autopts]

Guys, some of you may not know how mammoth of this C 3. The swivel base assy. is the same one they put on their monster 800S. Almost 12" across.

 

[wxm]

Picked up a wilton 1750.

Even with the "Right Price", it's going to be a project.

Both of the jaw inserts are missing, and all four mounting screws are broken off and rusty/stuck.

I already know the answer, but what's the best way to remove the broken screws?

The screw extractor with penetration oil should take care of the broken screws.

The wilton jaws are relatively easy to source. Check the WiltonViseParts.com. You can also make one yourself. In my case, I need a vise dedicated for parts repair, so I made one out of a brass bar from McMaster; it works well...

Happy New Year! GJ

 

[Outlawmws]

Guys, some of you may not know how mammoth of this C 3. The swivel base assy. is the same one they put on their monster 800S. Almost 12" across.

That thing looks almost too big for the slide!

 

[Mohawk Dave]

My Fred C Moran 4" Double Swivel. Here's the link to the restoration. http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2798178#post2798178

As of now...still need the adjustable handles...
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[Catalyze]

That is a gorgeous condition Wilton combo vise!! Autopts always tells me that if the original rubber bumpers are in good condition, it's a sign that the vise probably wasn't abused hard.

Big - very nicely restored Sir!! The sad thing is that considering where I live....I was looking at your fruit trees as much as the vise. Nice Wilton and fruit trees....

Dave - very nice looking vise from an unusual maker....you did well young Jedi
Craig