The VISES of Garage Journal

[Outlawmws]

Outlaw
Wouldn't building the Reed base on a CNC be easier, less setups. I have to make a couple of bases for my 2-1/2 Wilton's since I can not find any and the Wilton's are at about 5 degrees on the sides with a radius on the top side every where. Gonna have to cut out the pads some how and will end up on a milling machine eventually. I am anxious to build one but to busy now.
Kevin

Sure but the ratio of manual lathe owners vs CNC Mill owners probably in the area of a 10-20 to one ratio?

 

[Outlawmws]

I would Nicad the broken base and fab the missing part.

Look closer, it's not just the ear gone, the piece is gone all the way to the swivel lock channel... that would be a tough fab as a bit piece.

 

[KMScott]

Sure but the ratio of manual lathe owners vs CNC Mill owners probably in the area of a 10-20 to one ratio?

One of my former employees has a labeled on my Rotary Cross slide Ed's CNC. A little trickier but a swivel base can be built on a Bridgeport type machine. Rotary Tables with cross slides are real cheap now at auctions.

 

[shiftdrift]

what's it worth?


Craigslist: Wilton vise 6 inch by10 inch huge http://louisville.craigslist.org/grd/4007697865.html

 

[87Pomona]

what's it worth?


Craigslist: Wilton vise 6 inch by10 inch huge http://louisville.craigslist.org/grd/4007697865.html

That looks like a C3.

Looks like its been welded in the front by the lead screw.

 

[oldldh]

And it's missing the pipe jaws...and they aren't cheap...

If it's a C-3 it weighs around 200 lbs...

 

[ShadowRuleZ]

Another 1750 came home with me today, got a little caught up on eBay and probably paid more than I should have. It actually has the end cap though! And hold downs that aren't bent like spaghetti. I'm going to have to sell one of these, trying to decide if I should put the new jaws I bought in this one or not, the jaws that are in it are pretty nice.

 

[ShadowRuleZ]

The difference between the jaws that are on there (bottom) and the replacement jaws (top) I bought is interesting. Still not sure if I should swap them out or not, any thoughts?

 

[Jere]

I am digging those lower jaws, they look like they should grip great. Just use some wood block if you don't want to mark what you are working on

 

[zoomieport]

what's it worth?


Craigslist: Wilton vise 6 inch by10 inch huge http://louisville.craigslist.org/grd/4007697865.html

Too much wrong with it... There will always be another! Pass on it... Just my opinion.
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[zoomieport]

The difference between the jaws that are on there (bottom) and the replacement jaws (top) I bought is interesting. Still not sure if I should swap them out or not, any thoughts?

Where did you purchase the replacements, if a may ask?
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[ShadowRuleZ]

Where did you purchase the replacements, if a may ask?
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Advance Auto using 'Wilton 2904110' as the search term.

 

[CNGsaves]

what's it worth?


Craigslist: Wilton vise 6 inch by10 inch huge.
http://louisville.craigslist.org/grd/4007697865.html

Surely not $450 . . . . with a messed up handle to boot !!

Would be cheaper to drive from ANYWHERE in USA to Colorado & get a good one at that estate sale !!

 

[KMScott]

Advance Auto using 'Wilton 2904110' as the search term.

These are the same jaws you see on e-bay from milexequipment, this is why I build jaws in my spare time.

The original jaws in the picture have the serrations machined to a point, I always thought that was to much. I like just a little flat on my serrations. But the hardness of the originals are 54-56 Rockwell and that is why they still look great after so many years. The jaws on top look like the serrations were stamped in a press before heat treating. At least I hope they are heat treated, being soft where a file will cut them is not good.

 

[ShadowRuleZ]

These are the same jaws you see on e-bay from milexequipment, this is why I build jaws in my spare time.

The original jaws in the picture have the serrations machined to a point, I always thought that was to much. I like just a little flat on my serrations. But the hardness of the originals are 54-56 Rockwell and that is why they still look great after so many years. The jaws on top look like the serrations were stamped in a press before heat treating. At least I hope they are heat treated, being soft where a file will cut them is not good.

I figured if I got the Wilton part, it'd be a decent piece. The only reason I was considering using them over the set that's in there is how aggressive the other ones were. However, they do have some age on them so they might not be as sharp anymore.

 

[gearheadglen]

Picked up a Monarch 411 off of CL

It is missing the pipe jaws. The jaw width is 3 1/2 inches and it weighs between 30 and 40 pounds.
Guy had it listed as a "vice grip". I called and he said it was huge, I got there and it was small by my standards. He wanted $50 and we agreed on $40. I was going to pass on it since it was missing the jaws, but thought it was pretty cool. I probably overpaid a bit.

 

[EOC_Jason]

Picked up a Monarch 411 off of CL

It is missing the pipe jaws. The jaw width is 3 1/2 inches and it weighs between 30 and 40 pounds.
Guy had it listed as a "vice grip". I called and he said it was huge, I got there and it was small by my standards. He wanted $50 and we agreed on $40. I was going to pass on it since it was missing the jaws, but thought it was pretty cool. I probably overpaid a bit.

That's cool, I've never seen a combination Monarch before.

 

[gearheadglen]

That's cool, I've never seen a combination Monarch before.

Thats why I bought it, even though it was missing the pipe jaws

Not much Monarch vise info out there

 

[zoomieport]

Advance Auto using 'Wilton 2904110' as the search term.

I'd try http://wiltonviseparts.net/ the jaws are awesome and the price is better. Kevin is a master craftsman and makes one helluva replacement jaw!!!

 

[EOC_Jason]

Here's a treat I found last night while doing some googling...

In the American Machinist Book, Volume 50 they had a four page article on How the Reed Vise is Made!!! It does specifically mention how the jaws are tool-steel and cast in place.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/10831967/How Reed Vises Are Made.pdf

I noticed a weird thing, I downloaded the American Machinist book last night from Google and it was a copy from Stanford. I downloaded it today on a different PC and it was a copy from University of Michigan... Same volume and everything...

Anyhow, if you have spare time I would highly recommend skimming through it. It's an old treasure trove of information. They have several articles on how the 155mm howitzer is made!

 

[bl00]

Cool thanks! I have one on how Prentiss vises were made. If I e-mail it to you can you post it up like that one? It's a PDF, so too big to attach.

 

[KMScott]

Jason and Bloo
Really great reads Thanks for posting the Reed article and look forward to the Prentiss PDF.

 

[gearheadglen]

Nice find Jason

 

[va.grouseman]

Hats off to the historians. Everybody benefits from your time and efforts gentlemen. Not to leave anyone out, there are several fine historians on this site. You're are like the scribes of old, writing and rewriting the pages of history, which at any given time were only one generation from disappearing altogether. You preserve the knowledge of a time when it was quality not quantity was the goal. A time I am afraid is considered antiquated.

 

[Hot Chop shop]

Just finished painting my new Columbian vise 203 1/2 m2... Wanted to do the letters in red but the red i got was more pink sooooo...went with white...

I like it a lot but I might keep it for my future welding table build... The hunt continues for a big Wilton bullet to mount on my main bench... Hard to find on my craiglist here locally I always get beat out by other GJ'ers...

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[Hot Chop shop]

Just finished painting my new Columbian vise 203 1/2 m2... Wanted to do the letters in red but the red i got was more pink sooooo...went with white...

I like it a lot but I might keep it for my future welding table build... The hunt continues for a big Wilton bullet to mount on my main bench... Hard to find on my craiglist here locally I always get beat out by other GJ'ers...

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Pic came out weird using my Ipad to load it..I'm such a noooob

 

[oldldh]

Nice, solid job...

Ya Dun Gud, Bubba...

 

[EOC_Jason]

Okay, here is a 1913 three page article from American Machinist that is on Making the Prentiss Vise. Thanks to bl00 for sending it to me!

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/10831967/Making the Prentiss Bench Vise.pdf

 

[KMScott]

Thanks again jason and bl00, this is very nice. Thanks guys I really appreciate these articles. Check out the large broaches used to form the square pocket for the movable jaw, imagine how large the press were to push that cutter. Look how they used rotary tables for the swivel jaws and swivel bases. I used to build stuff this way and believe me all these methods are time consuming.

Kevin

 

[EOC_Jason]

FYI, I just re-uploaded the Prentiss file. I grabbed the book from Google Books and re-extracted the pages. So instead of a 3-4MB file it's like 577k (and better quality)...

If there are any problems downloading the PDF's please let me know.

 

[methomas70]

Picked up this cool "art deco" Wilton at a garage sale.
Two bucks.

 

[Mark in Indiana]

I finally finished my American Scale #75 pivot jaw vise. Please see pictures below. I'm quite pleased on how it turned out. In fact, I'm really having a hard time with the idea of selling it (my original intention). Well, on the the next projects.

BTW: Sorry the pictures are a little goofy. Had trouble transferring pictures.

 

[bigcaddy]

I finally finished my American Scale #75 pivot jaw vise. Please see pictures below. I'm quite pleased on how it turned out. In fact, I'm really having a hard time with the idea of selling it (my original intention). Well, on the the next projects.

BTW: Sorry the pictures are a little goofy. Had trouble transferring pictures.

Looks nice!! I'm still waiting for my American Scale to be dropped off by a friend of mine. I've never got my hands on one before and i really want to start tearing it down.

Nice Resto

 

[Mark in Indiana]

Looks nice!! I'm still waiting for my American Scale to be dropped off by a friend of mine. I've never got my hands on one before and i really want to start tearing it down.

Nice Resto

Thank you. I think that you will be impressed on how beefy those AS vises are.

 

[oldldh]

Ya Dun Gud, Bubba!!!

 

[bigcaddy]

Thank you. I think that you will be impressed on how beefy those AS vises are.

I'm already somewhat familiar with it. I saw the vise in a picture at a particular sale near my friends house. All of the pictures were taken at crappy angles and didn't allow me to come up with a manufacture. I almost went crazy trying to identify the obviously stout little vise so i had him go by that afternoon and pick it up. Amazing enough it was still there hours later.

Hopefully i'll see him this weekend and can post some pics on here.

 

[Maclin]

I finally finished my American Scale #75 pivot jaw vise. Please see pictures below. I'm quite pleased on how it turned out. In fact, I'm really having a hard time with the idea of selling it (my original intention). Well, on the the next projects.

Very Very Nice Beef. Beautiful job.

 

[demoman]

FYI, I just re-uploaded the Prentiss file. I grabbed the book from Google Books and re-extracted the pages. So instead of a 3-4MB file it's like 577k (and better quality)...

If there are any problems downloading the PDF's please let me know.

Outstanding info on the Reeds and prentiss vises. Thanks Jason and bl00

 

[Mark in Indiana]

I finally finished my American Scale #75 pivot jaw vise. Please see pictures below. I'm quite pleased on how it turned out. In fact, I'm really having a hard time with the idea of selling it (my original intention). Well, on the the next projects.

Very Very Nice Beef. Beautiful job.

Thank you. In the shop that I work in, I showed pictures to some of the mechanics. first the reaction was "nice vise". When they saw the pivot jaw picture, it was an OMG reaction. most of the guys (between 30 & 50) had never seen one.

 

[Outlawmws]

Thank you. In the shop that I work in, I showed pictures to some of the mechanics. first the reaction was "nice vise". When they saw the pivot jaw picture, it was an OMG reaction. most of the guys (between 30 & 50) had never seen one.

So you just added "x" no. of competitors for the vises in your ares!