The VISES of Garage Journal

[rennebew]

2" jaw Wilton 820 from CL. I did not hesitate at the $30 asking price.

 

[autopts]

Anybody think the area I've outlined in thie picture looks like a repair?

I might take a chisel and knock off that tiny factory imperfection that on almost all Wilton in and around that area. Nice Bullet!

 

[Bhfear]

Ya i can get some before and after shots of the blasting method. I use a glass media. Because i mainly use it to blast aluminum. But it works great om steel as well.. if it something really rusty or powdercoat i swap out my media. As for cost of ownership with my machine and dryer set up i have about 2k invested plus my comp. Honestly though one of my fav tool/machine in the shop use it almost daily here in the rust belt. But main reason i bought the cabinet is for restoring jeep parts i sell online. So it was more of a business expense rather than a hobby purchase.

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[drivesitfar]

my lettering is different on my Rock Island 577 compared to yours and yours still has the company's tag on yours that I think bought out Rock Island (Brinkman Electronics?). anyway your bench looks plenty stout without 400 pounds of vises on it to hold it down. what is the other vise that is next to your Rock? and to think those are the vises that didn't even make it inside your shop or did and were moved out for others.

picture also included before my Rock was restored so you can see that it survived the wet climate of the northwest for 80 years before being rescued.

 

[Bhfear]

I see a few of those rock islad vises on cl here everynow and then.. ironically most are in rock island il about 20mim from my house. I shud probably get one.. but i want one with a base and they always seem to be missing

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[drivesitfar]

my blue Rock Island 577 could be had if you found a way to get a huge Prentiss into your blast cabinet and we could swap. I've been known to drive a bit to pick up a nice vise and I might have to do a road trip to see why a good percentage of the great vises and grinders were made in your area.

by the way my swivel works like a dream now with all the rust removed and the screw worked great even before it was E tanked because I think it had a bucket of grease on it. thanks for sharing with your costs of that cabinet of yours. pretty nice!!!!

on a different note that 2 inch wilton is awesome and maybe cheap to ship????

 

[oldldh]

2" jaw Wilton 820 from CL. I did not hesitate at the $30 asking price.

I'll avoid the rush...

And be first...

For $ 30.00...

YOU REALLY, REALLY ****!!!

 

[jpickar]

Another YOU ****!
John

 

[pieceofwork]

Can anyone ID this beast? Supposedly a Yost, Holland Mi and removed from a service truck:

 

[GETRIDAONE]

Looks like it says Yost / 33C on the side, and missing the pipe jaws. It is a 5" jaw & 98 lbs.

 

[Outlawmws]

Yep that Wilton is a definite usuck.

If the price is right/good, that Yost is a keeper!

 

[454ragtop]

Scored a couple more Colton patent vises off the 'Bay. See my first one here http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=3391357#post3391357
First is a pre patent hand vise, really nice shape for around 130 yrs old. 1" wide jaws. More than 90 percent of the original paint, and pics make it look worse rust wise than it is, more like a little tarnish on the unpainted areas. Paid $9.99 + $6.50 ship.

The little clamp on is almost as nice, not sure if this one was repainted, hard to tell. 1-1/2" jaws, has the 1885 patent date. Handle had a little tweak in these seller pics, I've since straightened it out perfect. Cost $5.21 and $5.85 to ship. I really like these little guys, take up a lot less room, and a lot easier to move around!
Jim

 

[pieceofwork]

Yep that Wilton is a definite usuck.

If the price is right/good, that Yost is a keeper!

Yeah, the price is right I think...$75 and there is just nothing around me used. This one is about 45mins away. But I always compare the asking price to the new model retail ($900+ in this case)...and for what $75 would get you at HF Plus parts are still available.

 

[Outlawmws]

I like those Colton Pat. Vises. i have two clamp on's, 1-1/2" and 2-1/2"; that hand vise is VERY cool 454! You stole that one...

 

[rlanicek]

What do you folks use to protect the unpainted surfaces? I think I read somewhere that someone used wax. What kind of wax? Any special way to apply? I assume it would need to be re-applied periodically?

 

[Mark in Indiana]

Paste wax is what I use. That works great. However, you still need to keep an eye on the flash rust that sometimes pops up. But not as often is it would if you did nothing.

 

[EOC_Jason]

What do you folks use to protect the unpainted surfaces? I think I read somewhere that someone used wax. What kind of wax? Any special way to apply? I assume it would need to be re-applied periodically?

+1 for paste wax. You can find it at HD or Lowes or similar... It comes in a tin like car wax. You could probably even use car wax... lol.

 

[va.grouseman]

Twins. Each-----36.2 lbs.------5 3/16'' jaws.

 

[Outlawmws]

Now mount them up one on each end of a bench for those times that you need to clamp a longish piece to work on it! Cause you know how often that happens!

 

[bigcaddy]

Looks like a found a long lost cousin of my Hollands 24 from last week.


Hollands 14 with smooth jaws. The blue paint is a bit thick but should come off with some effort and time.


Im not too familiar with Hollands vises but are the smooth jaws uncommon? This is the first one i've seen with non serrated jaws.

 

[bigcaddy]

2" jaw Wilton 820 from CL. I did not hesitate at the $30 asking price.

Thats a nice "little" find you have there. Did you get any speeding tickets on the way to the sellers house?

 

[Mark in Indiana]

Looks like a found a long lost cousin of my Hollands 24 from last week.


Hollands 14 with smooth jaws. The blue paint is a bit thick but should come off with some effort and time.


Im not too familiar with Hollands vises but are the smooth jaws uncommon? This is the first one i've seen with non serrated jaws.

I don't see them that often. They're used in machinist applications. I prefer them because they keep from marking up the work piece.

 

[wrenchguy]

my lettering is different on my Rock Island 577 compared to yours and yours still has the company's tag on yours that I think bought out Rock Island (Brinkman Electronics?). anyway your bench looks plenty stout without 400 pounds of vises on it to hold it down. what is the other vise that is next to your Rock? and to think those are the vises that didn't even make it inside your shop or did and were moved out for others.

picture also included before my Rock was restored so you can see that it survived the wet climate of the northwest for 80 years before being rescued.

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The other vise is a newly acquired prentiss heavy chipping vise. link to post about it. http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=222961





Heres another ri 577 different yet. heres a link about it. http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=225014




The ri 577 on the bench is bolted down and the 1 next to it was there 4 photo comparison. The prentiss 58 is in storage and 1st on the restore list (gotta finish the 80sn 1st).

!! Finally anyone reading this, i was pm'd last monday from eocjason about some vise parts and he mentioned being "very sick", anyone hear from him this week? thanks.

update, i see he posted today, good!

 

[wrenchguy]

Anybody think the area I've outlined in thie picture looks like a repair?

Is that a bead of weld going aft of the cast bump/nub? It doesn't look going forward of the nub....

 

[drivesitfar]

PM me when you get the Prentiss done or is it going "inside" the shop? I looked at your thread on the Prentiss and one picture showing the Prentiss sitting alongside the Rock Island 577 looks awesome. Prentiss looks twice as big as the Rock and my Rock 577 almost weighs 200 pounds. WOW!!!

if you have a 2 inch Wilton to put next to it in a picture wouldn't that be too funny? I love that little 2 inch vise and need to get one.

everyone have a good weekend.

 

[BFBOB]

If you want to develope a new skill, you could buy some pinstriping brushes & a couple of cans of OneShot & go that route

I think most of the members who do that brush the contrasting color on the lettering with an artist's brush. Another method that I've used is 1: spray paint the lettering the color you want it to be. 2: Allow the paint to dry thoroughly. Don't get in a rush-a century old vise can wait another day. 3: spray paint the whole vise, letters and all. 4: As soon as you've finished this coat, take a hard rag dipped in paint thinner and wipe gently across the surface of the letters. It will remove the paint you just applied, but not the contrasting color underneath. (by "hard rag" I mean some cloth other than terry cloth, flannel, velvet or the like. Lint free or close as you can come.)
This works well for me, but timing is important and varies with the brand of paint. If you wait to long to wipe, the finish coat will turn to a gooey mess instead of coming off cleanly. If you wipe too soon, the lightest touch off your target will make a flaw. Something like 3-5 minutes is about right.
It's really pretty easy, and I can do better this way than brushing on the contrasting color.

 

[Outlawmws]

If you want to develope a new skill, you could buy some pinstriping brushes & a couple of cans of OneShot & go that route

I think most of the members who do that brush the contrasting color on the lettering with an artist's brush. Another method that I've used is 1: spray paint the lettering the color you want it to be. 2: Allow the paint to dry thoroughly. Don't get in a rush-a century old vise can wait another day. 3: spray paint the whole vise, letters and all. 4: As soon as you've finished this coat, take a hard rag dipped in paint thinner and wipe gently across the surface of the letters. It will remove the paint you just applied, but not the contrasting color underneath. (by "hard rag" I mean some cloth other than terry cloth, flannel, velvet or the like. Lint free or close as you can come.)
This works well for me, but timing is important and varies with the brand of paint. If you wait to long to wipe, the finish coat will turn to a gooey mess instead of coming off cleanly. If you wipe too soon, the lightest touch off your target will make a flaw. Something like 3-5 minutes is about right.
It's really pretty easy, and I can do better this way than brushing on the contrasting color.

Actually I think ZRX was talking about pin-striping the vises. which could be really cool!

and I'm pretty sure most are using paint pens for the raised letter contrasting colors. At least that is what I hear about the most.

 

[nuttynil]

Here is a small one I have in the garage had this record in the family for years recent makeover .these are well popular in the uk .

Got this one free it's all so a record needs a refurb it's been out in the garden .

Original plate some muppet painted it silver.

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[creativecars]

From my garage to my SS very soon. Is it better this way or painted? I took it apart, cleaned and lubed.
Be good for goodness sake...

 

[WhiteLightning]

Figured I'd ask here......

I restored my 4" Columbian vise a year or so ago. While doing so, the brittle retaining ring for the screw broke. I have since put a shaft collar on it, but it binds some and doesn't feel "right".

Does anyone have a spare laying around they could send me? I'd throw you some cash.

.....
I've since had a friend make a new handle since the original one was bent

 

[EOC_Jason]

!! Finally anyone reading this, i was pm'd last monday from eocjason about some vise parts and he mentioned being "very sick", anyone hear from him this week? thanks.

update, i see he posted today, good!

Yep, I'm alive. Was sick the whole Thanksgiving week and then some. Don't know what I had but it happens to me every year around the end of November.

 

[Outlawmws]

Yep, I'm alive. Was sick the whole Thanksgiving week and then some. Don't know what I had but it happens to me every year around the end of November.

Food poisoning? or maybe an allergic reaction to some holiday food?

 

[Provincial]

Yep, I'm alive. Was sick the whole Thanksgiving week and then some. Don't know what I had but it happens to me every year around the end of November.

PTSD: Pre-Thanksgiving Stress Disorder

Caused by knowing that there will be few garage sales that week due to the interference of the holiday.

 

[wrenchguy]

Yep, I'm alive. Was sick the whole Thanksgiving week and then some. Don't know what I had but it happens to me every year around the end of November.

Take care man, I 4 1 need ur expertise here.

 

[oldldh]

Glad to hear you're feeling better...

Just in time for the Houston weather inversion...

 

[mcmlvif100]

Looks like a found a long lost cousin of my Hollands 24 from last week.


Hollands 14 with smooth jaws. The blue paint is a bit thick but should come off with some effort and time.


Im not too familiar with Hollands vises but are the smooth jaws uncommon? This is the first one i've seen with non serrated jaws.

My Hollands 14 has serrated jaws and a 4 bolt mounting base. Quite a lot of difference in the same manufacturer and model. Also, your vise does not appear (at least from what I can tell in the photographs) to have the hole in back of the stationary jaw.

Sorry for the photograph but it’s one that I had on hand.

 

[BFBOB]

Diary of a dummy.
I needed a new drill press vise, so I bought this mangy cheapie for no better reason than it was cheaper than the Harbor Freight cheapies. That, and I couldn't find a new one that had the jaw setup I wanted, other than an exact replacement for my old one, a really light duty aluminum vise. So I got this thing and found it was just a pain to deal with. The jaw bodies weren't even parallel or square to the ways. So I posted a query about a member who might be willing to make me a new pair of jaws to my specs and true up the body.
A_Pmech stepped up, as did Kevin54. I went with A_Pmech because he was close enough I could take the vise over in person for its fitting. He graciously agreed, and Friday I got the grand tour. It was really interesting, and kind of silly seeing that gigantic Bridgeport delicately nibbling away at my little vise.
He did a terrific job on the jaws - actually a little too terrific. They made the rest of the vise look like ****, so I had no choice but to tear it down, give it a bath in the electrolysis tank, trim up some flash left over from the original casting, repaint and lube. Here's the result:
The paint bears a little explanation . I wanted a hammertone, but couldn't find any in blue at the HD nearest me. So what I did was spray it with light gray hammertone, and while it was still wet, but firm enough not to run, add a coat of green (Hunt Club Green, to match some of my clamps). The result is what you see-a combination of green and gray.
So now I've got well over a hundred bucks and many hours in a $25 vise.
But, damn, it's got nice jaws!

 

[Outlawmws]

Look at it this way Bob: some guys dump thousands into a car, an get pennies on the dollar when they finally sell! This was a much smaller "investment"

Looks pretty good BTW!

 

[Mark in Indiana]

Look at it this way Bob: some guys dump thousands into a car, an get pennies on the dollar when they finally sell! This was a much smaller "investment"

Looks pretty good BTW!

I agree. You learned a lot with this experience. Plus you have a pretty good looking vise in the deal.

 

[Provincial]

BFBOB, nice design on the vise jaws! You will recover your investment many times over as you use that vise over the years. Just the ledges for holding the work up will save you a lot of time.

Even though it was an inexpensive vise, it should hold up a long time if not abused.