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oldtools

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It is odd that Starrett use people of origin (POO) instead of country of origin (COO). If anybody sue them, the lawyer can argue American can technically refer to people of the Americas which can include North, Central, and South America.
 
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Sometimes "Made in U.S.A." can be misleading...

Case in point, the Gilmour Foam Master II (Model No. 95QGFMR) I bought...



Made in U.S.A.


... or is it?
 

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It is odd that Starrett use people of origin (POO) instead of country of origin (COO). If anybody sue them, the lawyer can argue American can technically refer to people of the Americas which can include North, Central, and South America.

You do realize that Starrett has been saying American Made for many decades?

Let me know how your frivolous lawsuit idea works out for you......
 

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You do realize that Starrett has been saying American Made for many decades?

Let me know how your frivolous lawsuit idea works out for you......

I have no intention of suing Starrett. I have no problem with Starrett making stuff oversea as long as the quality is there. I buy based on quality not COO. I have quite a bit of Starrett tools, but I don't recall any of them say "American Made".
 
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I have no intention of suing Starrett. I have no problem with Starrett making stuff oversea as long as the quality is there. I buy based on quality not COO. I have quite a bit of Starrett tools, but I don't recall any of them say "American Made".


Many of the Starrett tools I've bought come with a little piece of paper that says "This tool is American Made" thrown in the box. Usually that writing is not on the tool itself. In fact, the country of origin is not marked on the tool at all, which does disappoint me.

I also have some older Starrett Line levels that have "American Made" stamped into the levels themselves. On back of the level's packaging it says "Made in the Dominican Republic." That disappoints me even more.
 

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Many of the Starrett tools I've bought come with a little piece of paper that says "This tool is American Made" thrown in the box. Usually that writing is not on the tool itself. In fact, the country of origin is not marked on the tool at all, which does disappoint me.


Anyone know what the COO labeling laws are with respect to foreign made goods? Do all products have to have a COO somewhere on the item or package or is it voluntary? (I realize FTC has rules as to the accuracy once there is reference to COO involving USA).

For example, could Sears have just omitted any reference to COO when they moved CM over to China?

Could HF remove "made in China" from their Pittsburg and US General tools?

Why would any company put "made in China" on the package if it's voluntary?
 
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Anyone know what the COO labeling laws are with respect to foreign made goods? Do all products have to have a COO somewhere on the item or package or is it voluntary? (I realize FTC has rules as to the accuracy once there is reference to COO involving USA).

For example, could Sears have just omitted any reference to COO when they moved CM over to China?

Could HF remove "made in China" from their Pittsburg and US General tools?

Why would any company put "made in China" on the package if it's voluntary?

Imported items are required to have the COO either on the packaging or the item. It's only items that are made, assembled or processed in the USA where the COO labeling is optional.

The rules are different for imported items. They're not regulated by the FTC, but rather Customs and Border Patrol. Here's a link to the federal regulations.
http://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx?rgn=div5&node=19:1.0.1.1.28#19:1.0.1.1.28.2.304.1

§134.11 Country of origin marking required.

Unless excepted by law, section 304, Tariff Act of 1930, as amended (19 U.S.C. 1304), requires that every article of foreign origin (or its container) imported into the United States shall be marked in a conspicuous place as legibly, indelibly, and permanently as the nature of the article (or container) will permit, in such manner as to indicate to an ultimate purchaser in the United States the English name of the country of origin of the article, at the time of importation into the Customs territory of the United States.
 

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It may have been mentioned already but if US companies are trying to be a global company, stamping COE May not be to their advantage. US made does not mean the same thing to a European or Australian as it does to an American. As a Canadian, I'm looking for the quality, regardless of COE
 
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