EOC_Jason
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I wasn't talking about the swivel jaw. Someone posted asking about their 208R.
That swivel jaw is obviously an older model. My guess the R on the dynamic stands for Reed too...
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I wasn't talking about the swivel jaw. Someone posted asking about their 208R.
That swivel jaw is obviously an older model. My guess the R on the dynamic stands for Reed too...
EOC_Jason
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I took a large nut and welded a piece of angle to it that I found fit the slot. Then I use my air impact to get them loose (sometimes)...
Does the base swivel? If not, then that pin is probably seized good. You can secure the base down then "spin" the static housing off. Then get a mini-sledge and beat the pin out of the base. That's what I had to do on one of mine that was rusted like a SOB...
If it does swivel then it's the threads that are gummed up. I would just spray the penetrating oil in there. If you soak around the base where the main nut is inside, it will hopefully work its way to the hole underneath where the thread is for that swivel bolt. Then make up a little piece like I said initially and try going loose / tight with an impact back & forth and it will hopefully come free.
That is consistent with what has been conveyed over the years---and the fact that it is a Pat Pend model pretty much CONFIRMS the 1941 date. If yours was a No. 4 (or an 840), it would be unlikely as the patent was not approved yet in 1941. Such as this example:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/261580862675?lpid=82
But it just ruined the notion of mine being Sample #10 of 46 !!! Arrrggghh.
Fretters
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Seems to be, at the moment. I'll take some photo's of the bits which have been painted with it later. If you try it, I'd try just the one piece to start with and gauge how the paint you're using behaves with it. I may just have dropped on lucky with the paint type I'm using. I use 14 Line poly. synthetic enamel.
oldldh
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I know some of you are Chas. Parker fans, so here's a strange one, at least to me...
A Chas. Parker 870...
Now we've had asymmetrical jaws before, but this is the first symmetrical jaw, non-symmetrical screw, I've seen...
This strange 3 1/2", 40 pound thing is on Ebay...
It's an "On-the-side" screwer...
A Chas. Parker 870...
Now we've had asymmetrical jaws before, but this is the first symmetrical jaw, non-symmetrical screw, I've seen...
This strange 3 1/2", 40 pound thing is on Ebay...
It's an "On-the-side" screwer...
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Outlawmws
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THIS ^^^ (Hammer impact, not an Air gun...)
and using a good penitrant (Kroil. 50/50 acetone and ATF...)
oldldh
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GETRIDAONE
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I know some of you are Chas. Parker fans, so here's a strange one, at least to me...
A Chas. Parker 870...
Now we've had asymmetrical jaws before, but this is the first symmetrical jaw, non-symmetrical screw, I've seen...
This strange 3 1/2", 40 pound thing is on Ebay...
It's an "On-the-side" screwer...
I saw those this morning while browsing
The starting bid on that Parker will scare most people off.
The little Prentiss has some bidders already and probably a bunch more before it ends.
Thanks for all the suggestions. That "son of a *****" pin finally came out.
I soaked it in Kroil overnight and then put the vise in the freezer for a couple hours. I pulled it out and hit the area surrounding the pin with a MAPP gas torch hoping the swivel jaw would heat up (and expand) more then the pin.
I was able to use a long drift thru the swivel base bolt hole and after a couple hundred taps it finally broke free. I was very paranoid about the cast iron but it survived unscathed.
I'm curious if that pin is a std taper (Morse) or something proprietary for Reed?
I soaked it in Kroil overnight and then put the vise in the freezer for a couple hours. I pulled it out and hit the area surrounding the pin with a MAPP gas torch hoping the swivel jaw would heat up (and expand) more then the pin.
I was able to use a long drift thru the swivel base bolt hole and after a couple hundred taps it finally broke free. I was very paranoid about the cast iron but it survived unscathed.
I'm curious if that pin is a std taper (Morse) or something proprietary for Reed?
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Fretters
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They're like hens teeth over here too. I've seen a grand total of one for sale within memory, and that one was just too far away with no postage option to be feasible, for me. They're up there with the 5198's on availability.
bl00
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jakemac
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The best kind ............. COMPLETE !
The picture is hard to read, but it looks to have 3 patent dates on it. I'm guessing they're the 1908, 1912, 1914 dates. It looks similar to the one I have. It's hard to tell the size from just one picture, but I think it's at least a 4" vise.
It doesn't have the oil holes, so I'd say it's one of the early ones. 20's, 30's ???????
If there aren't any cracks, chips, or other damage. And if the screw isn't bound up, then $70 wouldn't be out of the question (but haggle a bit to see if it will go for less).
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TreePointer
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D'oh! I think I got lost reading the various forum posts. Either that or my grammar school report cards were right--something about needing to pay attention in class.
EOC_Jason
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Good to hear you finally got it loose. That pin looks a lot like the taper on a Prentiss. But really the only way to find out is to measure it.
Outlawmws
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Dave, IIR Reed used a 6 deg taper
Outlawmws
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I don't have a lead for you, but thanks for posting that. I've never seen one before.
and now you have competition!
Thanks Fretters. I'll keep beating the bushes and maybe I'll find one.
This probably doesn't fit in with the other vises in this thread. It's an antique engraving vise. Photo by me
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va.grouseman
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Previously posted by Sam.A
I'm looking for a Parkinson's Ball Base Vise. They were made in England and not so plentiful here in the USA. If anyone has one I'd like to buy it.
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Sam,---There is a Parkinson's Ball Based Vise, posted by demographic on---page 632,---post #7239, with a darn good history lesson right below it.--
demographic hails from across the pond, so he might could direct you.
Also there is a very odd Ball Based Vise posted by Janbuick, on---page 638,---post #12746, and post #12757.---He's also across the pond.
I'm looking for a Parkinson's Ball Base Vise. They were made in England and not so plentiful here in the USA. If anyone has one I'd like to buy it.
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Sam,---There is a Parkinson's Ball Based Vise, posted by demographic on---page 632,---post #7239, with a darn good history lesson right below it.--
demographic hails from across the pond, so he might could direct you.
Also there is a very odd Ball Based Vise posted by Janbuick, on---page 638,---post #12746, and post #12757.---He's also across the pond.
Fretters
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Fingers crossed for you on finding one Sam. Be sure to post some photo's of it if you get one. Ball vices have never been something which interest me as such, but the Parkinson one just has that beefiness about it which you rarely see with the type, plus Parkinson are my preferred make of vice, so that one has been on my wishlist for a good while. With the Parkinsons though, you tend to find that the 7 and 8's are fairly common, with the 6's appearing occasionally, but any models other than those seem to be once in a blue moon affairs. I'd love to have the full range of Parkinsons, but I'll probably never live long enough to achieve it, judging by the frequency which some of them appear for sale.
Links to those posts VA mentioned:
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2869982&postcount=7239
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3704256&postcount=12746
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3705182&postcount=12757
Be sure to post some photo's of it if you get one. Ball vices have never been something which interest me as such, but the Parkinson one just has that beefiness about it which you rarely see with the type, plus Parkinson are my preferred make of vice, so that one has been on my wishlist for a good while. With the Parkinsons though, you tend to find that the 7 and 8's are fairly common, with the 6's appearing occasionally, but any models other than those seem to be once in a blue moon affairs. I'd love to have the full range of Parkinsons, but I'll probably never live long enough to achieve it, judging by the frequency which some of them appear for sale. Links to those posts VA mentioned:
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2869982&postcount=7239
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3704256&postcount=12746
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3705182&postcount=12757
jakemac
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If any of you fine gentlemen still wear ties, this may be of interest to you - a tie tac.
Blue
I don't wear ties (except for weddings and funerals), but when there were no bids with 1 hour left on the auction, I just couldn't leave it there. So, now I own a new vise (-like object).
I was surprised by how heavy it is. While the tie tac is a 3D releif, it was made so that it could stand up on it's own on the base. The handle also spins like a propeller.
This forum is soooooooooo bad for my wallet.
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I don't wear ties (except for weddings and funerals), but when there were no bids with 1 hour left on the auction, I just couldn't leave it there. So, now I own a new vise (-like object).
I was surprised by how heavy it is. While the tie tac is a 3D releif, it was made so that it could stand up on it's own on the base. The handle also spins like a propeller.
This forum is soooooooooo bad for my wallet.
I almost bought that!!!!
Glad you got it.
John
Outlawmws
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Jake, now you have to buy the vise on the tie tac...
And I was waiting for it to get no bids, and be posted at a lower price...
And I was waiting for it to get no bids, and be posted at a lower price...
jakemac
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1 - I'm convincing myself that my 506.51871 is close enough. (fingers crossed that it works) 
2 - Obviously, your OCD isn't as strong as mine.
2 - Obviously, your OCD isn't as strong as mine.
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bigcaddy
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1 - I'm convincing myself that my 506.51871 is close enough. (fingers crossed that it works)
2 - Obviously, your OCD isn't as strong as mine.
I don't know, jake. It looks awfully close to this one
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Outlawmws
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I don't know, jake. It looks awfully close to this one
Yup, that be the one!
Start hunting Jake!
(BC; DON'T sell it to him...)
drivesitfar
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All: correction on the Wilton vise history remark. i meant to say KC-Steve has the Junk yard website with the Wilton history and not Steve-O. sorry.
Sam: i understand you wanting Parkinson vise like you want and who wouldn't.Just wondering if a Wilton baby bullet with the power arm and the clip might be another option. or are they as rare if you are in the UK as Parkinsons are over here?
i'm not planning on selling my Wilton Baby Bullet anytime soon, but here's a picture of how it moves in case you didn't already know.
Jake: nice tie clip.
Sam: i understand you wanting Parkinson vise like you want and who wouldn't.Just wondering if a Wilton baby bullet with the power arm and the clip might be another option. or are they as rare if you are in the UK as Parkinsons are over here?
i'm not planning on selling my Wilton Baby Bullet anytime soon, but here's a picture of how it moves in case you didn't already know.
Jake: nice tie clip.
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Fretters
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I believe Sam is over your side of the pond DIF.
jakemac
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I don't know, jake. It looks awfully close to this one
Yup, that be the one!
Start hunting Jake!
(BC; DON'T sell it to him...)
OK, how about this one.
If not, well then ..............
LA-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA-
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Fretters
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Btw, this is the only piece of advertising literature I've come across so far which made any reference to the ball base vise.
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Thanks for the info and reply, I would love to find a small table mount vise (under 3") with the spindle threads enclosed under the slide. Been having a hard time finding one.[/QUOTE]
Search for "1885 vise" and you'll find a really neat series of round-slide, small, clamp-on, covered-screw vises. They come in at least five sizes, 1" to 2 1/2", and I have all five, as does Outlawmws and probably others. The 1885 is the patent date, by George Colton. I might have a spare, and Outlaw probably has dozens. Check that auction site too.
Thanks for the info and reply, I would love to find a small table mount vise (under 3") with the spindle threads enclosed under the slide. Been having a hard time finding one.[/QUOTE]
Search for "1885 vise" and you'll find a really neat series of round-slide, small, clamp-on, covered-screw vises. They come in at least five sizes, 1" to 2 1/2", and I have all five, as does Outlawmws and probably others. The 1885 is the patent date, by George Colton. I might have a spare, and Outlaw probably has dozens. Check that auction site too.
drivesitfar
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Jake: are you singing or are you saying Los Angelos (LA) because that is maybe close to where BC lives with all those Craftsmans?
Fretters: thanks and it's always hard to tell when new members (or old) don't put a location under their avitar.
Fretters: thanks and it's always hard to tell when new members (or old) don't put a location under their avitar.
J HAV
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Outlawmws
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OK, how about this one.
If not, well then ..............
LA-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA-
Nope, handle ends are not tapered, body is not the same, even the anvil is different!
Ha,,, ha, ha,,,, ha ha,
J HAV
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Very nice color. What brand/color name is it?