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Just me or is a 4.5" vise not that large? When it comes to machine tools I think people tend to throw around the large/huge/massive word too often.
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Just me or is a 4.5" vise not that large? When it comes to machine tools I think people tend to throw around the large/huge/massive word too often.
There are 2 Prentiss 20s (4.5" swivel static jaw) on my local and semi local CL. They are the ones with the cool graffiti writing. They want 300 and 325. Are these really that expensive? Seems about double to triple price to me. I managed to score an even older prentiss 20 as my first vise score, but I would love to find one of these too. Any thoughts?
zoomieport
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Does anyone have a "baby bullet" "Dynamic jaw assembly for sale? If so, please PM me. Thank you!
Take care!
ZOOM
Take care!
ZOOM
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I am thinking about trying to snag this at an auction this weekend. What do you guys think? Not well versed in these Craftsman vises, not sure the size or model. Any advice would be appreciated.
http://www.auctionzip.com/Full-Image/2259974/fpx42.cgi
http://www.auctionzip.com/Full-Image/2259974/fpx42.cgi
wrenchguy
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drivesitfar
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Jot: that little Craftsman probably weighs 25 pounds and has been worked pretty hard in it's life. maybe made in Japan in the 70's. if you want to spend the time on bringing it back to life it is a decent vise, but there are a lot of those vises out there so i'd wait for another one. here's one that a guy that does a pretty decent job spiffing up vises did to a similar vise. also the red one is what that vise looks like on the other side and in it's original condition.
JRobb: you moved into the high end of what those Prentiss vises are really worth, but when you were buying 2 for a Benjamin almost every week that can only last so long. hope the move worked out and any pictures of your vise crew and have you had time to clean them up yet?
Scooter: nice old vise and i'm guessing it has the single bolt straight down out of the bottom, but hard to tell when it's sitting on a bucket. I've seen the missing pipe jaw you have and you'll have to get a decent size piece of steel to make one.
JRobb: you moved into the high end of what those Prentiss vises are really worth, but when you were buying 2 for a Benjamin almost every week that can only last so long. hope the move worked out and any pictures of your vise crew and have you had time to clean them up yet?
Scooter: nice old vise and i'm guessing it has the single bolt straight down out of the bottom, but hard to tell when it's sitting on a bucket. I've seen the missing pipe jaw you have and you'll have to get a decent size piece of steel to make one.
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Canoe50
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I hear what you're saying, but no, haven't put anything big in either one & likely won't. If I ever do, the C2 would get bolted to the bench for that. It's a valid concern you bring up, so I would just advise to proceed with caution when you're not sure. That is, take it slow & think ahead about what you're doing & ask yourself...is this a safe thing to do?
I'm not in the position to say it's safe to leave it on wheels for something big & would never say doing so is OK. That goes for anything where safety is a concern if I'm not certain.
Honestly, a 205 lb. vise is over-kill for my needs. But after seeing it in person, I had to have it. I just wanted it.
Mobility is key for me now & why both are on wheels. That likely will change at some point, at least for the C2.
Canoe50
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I get where you're coming from. I admit I was hooked for awhile, but not anymore. If I was, that C3 would be here & I'd be posting pictures of it. No denial. I've just reached that point where I no longer want another one & now may casually look if I see one along the way. When I started asking myself....what the hell am I doing?.....I knew the addition was coming to a end. I will admit the C3 (along with the stand) isn't something I'll likely ever see again locally & that was a tough battle going on in my head. If I could do it over again......who knows?
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scooternut
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Yes, exactly like wrenchguy's oswego. Thanks wrenchguy, yours was the one I was referring to that someone still had theirs. Ive seen a few different bolts so I'm not certain which is factory. I'll just be making something, and will likely just remove the 2nd pipe jaw for the effect of that huge throat. I guess I'll just use an old 5 lb york plate for the other piece. Not sure what I'm doing with this beast yet, just felt the need to have 1 huge vise.
Fretters
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That's the same point I'm at with pretty much everything now. No point keep collecting stuff if it's not going to be be sorted and put into service, so now I'm working on making the stuff I already have here ready for use and then using it before I start adding to again, if desired. It would have to be either something special or a really keen price to grab my attention at the moment.
va.grouseman
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Originally posted by Canoe50.
I've just reached that point where I no longer want another one & now may casually look if I see one along the way
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Yea,---I keep telling myself, "I can quit any time I want to".---I think it's starting to work.---If I just don't see a 209,-- 408,--05198--a Simplex 81S,--an 8 inch Ridgid,--an 8 inch Sawyer,--a 926 Starrett,--an 8 inch Prentiss,--a C.P. 978,--an 8 inch Rock Island,--an 8 inch Record,--and a hoard of other brands and sizes,--I'll be fine.
Now about those anvils.
I've just reached that point where I no longer want another one & now may casually look if I see one along the way
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Yea,---I keep telling myself, "I can quit any time I want to".---I think it's starting to work.---If I just don't see a 209,-- 408,--05198--a Simplex 81S,--an 8 inch Ridgid,--an 8 inch Sawyer,--a 926 Starrett,--an 8 inch Prentiss,--a C.P. 978,--an 8 inch Rock Island,--an 8 inch Record,--and a hoard of other brands and sizes,--I'll be fine.
Now about those anvils.
[I know, wrong thread - sorry!]
I saw this one go off at auction last night for $224 out the door.
A nice anvil on a very interesting base. It was held on by one loose bolt so the auctioneer was selling it as a "swivel anvil".
Just two guys bidding on it. The winner was very pleased with the price.The only vise at the sale was one of those Chinese rotator double-jawed thingies.
FMC1959
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Hey pozidriv, not sure if anyone got back to you, welcome to the forum.
Prices can very quite a bit from one region to another, €30 ($40?) sounds alright for a nice York vise, that one looks in good shape.
That restore you have on the link, not sure where I got the link but saw this a few months back. Nice restore and good read. Good luck on your vise purchase...the first of many if you stay on this thread.
It may be the pic, but it almost looks like it is sprung.
Cope
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Looks that way to me also.
ganymede
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I think so too. Either way it's been put through the ringer. Jaws look loose n worn and the swivel handle is bent.
To top things off it looks like a Triceratops ate it, got constipated and didn't shart it out until a month later.
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I found a Wilton Model 9450 on craigslist, the guy is asking $250, wjat is a good going price for this vise?
from 1944
ganymede
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9450 is a 4 1/2" jaw vise and 250 is at least a hundred bucks too much. I think.
If that's the only used vise thats come up in your area for the last year and you've got enough money then maybe buy it.
If that's the only used vise thats come up in your area for the last year and you've got enough money then maybe buy it.
va.grouseman
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Previously posted by BJ42LX.
auctioneer was selling it as a "swivel anvil".
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Don't get oldldh started on those.---He'll blow a gasket.
auctioneer was selling it as a "swivel anvil".
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Don't get oldldh started on those.---He'll blow a gasket.
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Little high, depending on where you're at (Alaska price much different than Detroit)!! See if you can negotiate down in 100's (ie below $200) and you'd have nice lifetime vise.
Bring variety of bills with you, and work out deal to bring it home !!
Mark in Indiana
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I found a Wilton Model 9450 on craigslist, the guy is asking $250, wjat is a good going price for this vise?
from 1944
I've said this many times: "Unfortunately vintage vises are under valued". That being said, a fair retail price for that vise, restored to new would be his asking price.
However, I wouldn't pay more than $100.00 in its condition.
Times are still tough and there is plenty of vintage arn vises out there for a better price.
That's my opinion.
Happy Trails!
mt6
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[I know, wrong thread - sorry!]
I saw this one go off at auction last night for $224 out the door.
A nice anvil on a very interesting base. It was held on by one loose bolt so the auctioneer was selling it as a "swivel anvil".
The only vise at the sale was one of those Chinese rotator double-jawed thingies.
That stand looks like it was the base for an old cream separator. One of my anvils sits on a very similar stand. Mine has a board bolted to it so it doesn't swivel and puts it at just the right height.
FMC1959
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Just me or is a 4.5" vise not that large? When it comes to machine tools I think people tend to throw around the large/huge/massive word too often.
That's the thing, this forum consists of vise, tools and car enthusiasts, we are crazy! The average Joe on the street will tell you he has a humongous vise, it has to be at least 50 lbs
I just picked up a prentiss bulldog 264. Pics are 2 pages back I think. Made in CT not NY. I have 7 vises now so I'm being very selective of what I get as I don't "need" anymore. I do want one of those prentiss 20s with the fancy letters though. And rock islands I would also buy. There is a bead blaster at work so I think I'll clean the bulldog up with that. Move is going good, job is good.
oldldh
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Just another Swivlin' B@#tard!!!
A movable hammer target!!!
My fingers hurt already!!!
wrenchguy
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i believe this is the only smith's i seen on the vise mothership without the jaw inserts busted out of it and no jaw tower damage. i think these were abused in this manner by using it more of a pipe vise and exceeding its designed capacity. good luck with it.
Gert
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Finished my C2 resto.
For the colour I used RAL3020 - which is red - but in the pictures it really looks orange. Well, I like that too...
More pics in this thread: http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=218354
For the colour I used RAL3020 - which is red - but in the pictures it really looks orange. Well, I like that too...
More pics in this thread: http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=218354
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Finished my C2 resto.
For the colour I used RAL3020 - which is red - but in the pictures it really looks orange. Well, I like that too...
More pics in this thread: http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=218354
That is a a great restore job on that C2. I want a C2 so bad!!
John
EOC_Jason
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Very nice resto... Looks better than new!
jakemac
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Great job on the letters. 
Canoe50
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Canoe50
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That's pretty much my feelings in a nutshell.
Canoe50
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Yeah, about those anvils. I was in much better control with those....only had 5 & now down to 2. That's where I'm staying.
oldldh
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Gert---
How in the world did that Wilton get across the pond to Holland???
I really like your restoration...
Ya Dun Gud, Bubba!!!
How in the world did that Wilton get across the pond to Holland???
I really like your restoration...
Ya Dun Gud, Bubba!!!
zoomieport
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Maybe I shouldn't have said "assembly", I have a ll the hardware, I just need a dynamic jaw for a "BABY BULLET". Let me know if you have one for sale or barter, thank you!
Take care!
ZOOM
zoomieport
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That is some excellent work! Well Done!!!
dutchgray
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Gert
That Wilton is stunning, it looks to good to actually use, if you ever sell it I would pay a lot for it.
In other news I have bought an 8" jaw Record, which should be with me next week, hopefully it wont turn out to be a pile of ****, as it cost enough, but I have been looking for a big one for long enough.
That Wilton is stunning, it looks to good to actually use, if you ever sell it I would pay a lot for it.
In other news I have bought an 8" jaw Record, which should be with me next week, hopefully it wont turn out to be a pile of ****, as it cost enough, but I have been looking for a big one for long enough.
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