krusty the clown
Member Emeritus
and frank is usually a better guy than that..............seems everyones labia is swollen the last few days...........
Friends don't let friends wirebrush nice tools.
- Thread starter Bolster
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Well put. I confess I may be the lunatic fringe on this issue. Where is that 'tard icon?
And no offense taken by those who disagree about wheel brushing...it's not a discussion if everyone agrees.
I want to correct a false dichotomy I see a lot on GJ...one can be both a tool user and tool collector...
I use my collectables regularly. They are all used already, so why not use them some more. But I admit to taking
a great deal of pleasure from what the tools look like, and from tools in good condition.
Another fallacy you see is that wire brushing is the only (or best) way to get rid of rust. We have better options.
As "Dude Lebowski" would say, "New sh*t has come to light."
My Philosophy of Excellent Tools (which is what I use to justify the expense of expensive tools to my wife...
with mixed results) is that I will enjoy the work more, and do a better job, if I am using tools I love.
Do a job with tools you don't care about, and tools you do, and you'll notice a big difference in the quality of the job.
At least I do.
I'm sure there was a Maan after......."New sh*t has come to light." Maan
I love that movieFrank Elson
Well-known member
May I offer an apology to Bolster for the language I used in my post.
No real excuse but I was having problems when I came across your post. I do disagree with your opinion but I could, and should, have taken time out before bashing out my posts.
No real excuse but I was having problems when I came across your post. I do disagree with your opinion but I could, and should, have taken time out before bashing out my posts.
mkdive
Well-known member
Quick fix, mail them to me. Ill pay for the postage. I will take great care of them....and you wont have to look at them anymore to remind you of "the wheel day". Kill two birds with one stone right?
JK!
All of us have different ways of treating/cleaning our tools. To each is own. I agree for the most part of non wire brush tools. But i will admit I have a couple cheap foreign wrenches that have been subjected to my brass wheel. I agree nice, antique, or heirloom tools shouldn't be brushed. But heck they are "your" tools....we all do things different.
I just think its cool to be part of a forum where there are members that actually care enough about their tools to even discuss this or have a thread about it!
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Major Ramifications
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What movie are you guys talking about? I figure that if you guys like it, I probably will too.
mkdive
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The big lebowski (spelling)?
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krusty the clown
Member Emeritus
back to the thread..........would you wire wheel this?
T56 Impala
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I would not. (I might try out my new blast cabinet on it though!) Seriously, I would simply EOR that one, it looks to be in pretty good shape.
krusty the clown
Member Emeritus
if it gets anything it will be oil and 0000 steel wool.
Frank Elson
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sure, why not?
I only use the wire brush on tools, to get the junk out of plier and vice grip jaws before putting them away. I don't have any vintage tools, but can see why one would not want to wire brush an antique collectible.
sure, why not?
That looks ok to me, but I don't know JACK about old tool care "dos and don'ts"
I use a fine brass wire brush on my non chrome old tools, works good. On my chrome tools, I use a buffer, can restore a tool to almost new looking. I also use the elect. process on very rusty tools. Alloy artifacts uses the elect process, then he finishes them with ext. fine foam backed sandpaper.
Frank Elson
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I only bought it because of this forum. It makes my "collection" of Snap On items up to four.
It's in my toolbox and I've been using it.
It's in my toolbox and I've been using it.
Uncle Buck
Banned
back to the thread..........would you wire wheel this?
sure, why not?
Stand back fellers, I am tired of efin around with the wire wheels, I am gonna bead blast them...................To quote Flounder from Animal House "This is gonna be great!" ..........................RAMMING SPEED!..........
Hi Frank, I did not catch your post until just now. No hard feelings, mate! If you're ever in LA, I'll take you to the local beach pub where they have 80 different beers on tap from around the world, and we will regale each other with tool stories, and discuss the sorry state of American beer.
Oops, am I being elitist again. Bingo. Snapmom's methods are very similar to mine.
Two questions: (1) do you use a brass wire *wheel* and if so where did you find one? I would like to try a real brass wire wheel (not brass-coated steel like you find everywhere). (2) What compound are you using on your buff?
Seems to me a very fine foam backed sandpaper would give a similar result to a buffer with a heavy compound.
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Uncle Buck
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Stand back fellers, I am tired of efin around with the wire wheels, I am gonna bead blast them...................To quote Flounder from Animal House "This is gonna be great!" ..........................RAMMING SPEED!..........
Hi Frank, I did not catch your post until just now. No hard feelings, mate! If you're ever in LA, I'll take you to the local beach brewery where they have 80 different beers on tap and we will regale each other with tool stories, and discuss the sorry state of American beer.
Oh man! ....................................where's the love? I thought sure you would get a kick out of my last post.............nuthin
man I am bummed. BTW: You know all this wheel vs stuff is fun to me, don't you? 
Oh man! ....................................where's the love? I thought sure you would get a kick out of my last post.............nuthin
Well Buck even a fool can see you are just persecuting me for fun! It's called "Bolster Baiting" and I think it is illegal in most states!
EDIT: Again, that's BOLSTER baiting. Not the other kind of -bating that's also done for amusement.
Uncle Buck
Banned
Well Buck even a fool can see you are just persecuting me for fun! It's called "Bolster Baiting" and I think it is illegal in most states!
EDIT: Again, that's BOLSTER baiting. Not the other kind of -bating.
I wish I routinely threw up as many pics on the board as other guys. True story, The first 1/2" pebble handle I bought I did bead blast, I must admit though I am not real sure I liked the end result that much, I may have gone to far.....................oh well, back to the wheel!
Merkava_4
Banned
I know exactly what you're talking about Bolster. I used to have the same problem when I would use a miniature Dremel wire cup wheel on the underside of a Briggs & Stratton cylinder head -- until I started keeping the head wet with WD-40 as I'm using the wire wheel.
I suspect that when using a wire wheel dry, the **** that we're removing with it causes friction and since friction creates heat, we're causing the results as you described in your post.
I'm not completely sure what's going on, but what I do know is that by keeping the **** (and in my case carbon) suspended with the solvent, it keeps the whole operation cool and the metal turns out shinny and clean after you wipe the part off with a paper towel.
You probably don't have the issue if the part is completely dry with the formation of rust and rust only, but as soon as you put the wire wheel on a part that has any kind greasy film on it, I suspect you get the results as you describe in your post above. Keep it wet.
Frank Elson
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oh sh*t
this thread just embarrasses me... makes me want to start apologising all over again.
this thread just embarrasses me... makes me want to start apologising all over again.