Show us Your Vintage Bench Grinders!!!!

[McBrownie]

Thanks Jake and Nine!

 

[drivesitfar]

McB: i'm not usually a fan of that style grinder, but i have to say you did a great job restoring Dad's old tool and it looks like it might be ready for some serious work now.

 

[McBrownie]

McB: i'm not usually a fan of that style grinder, but i have to say you did a great job restoring Dad's old tool and it looks like it might be ready for some serious work now.

Thanks Drives! I don't know about "serious" work. That goes to the block grinders, but I like the fact that this one runs at 1725 rpm. It's a lot more forgiving and good for light work. Btw, KMScott helped rescue my Parker 203. Many pictures on that one and a long write up for your vise repair thread. I'm hoping to get that posted this weekend.

 

[Outlawmws]

Very cool McBrownie, Always nice to save some family history!

 

[Fretters]

Very cool McBrownie, Always nice to save some family history!

Just what I was thinking too. Nice work there McB. You've fettled that nicely whilst keeping it looking as was, (if that makes sense?). Nicely done.

 

[McBrownie]

Just what I was thinking too. Nice work there McB. You've fettled that nicely whilst keeping it looking as was, (if that makes sense?). Nicely done.

Thanks Fretters! I've never considered myself a fettler before.

 

[drivesitfar]

All: i wish i had another big old grinder to post, but thought i'd post this fairly graphic video on grinder safety. i'm so guilty of not doing several of the things that caused these injuries and mainly because i didn't know the potential risk.

I was looking for some new grinding wheels and checking out a few videos of some in use when i came upon this video. i also started a thread with this video that is getting some good posts so thought i'd post on this thread to see if any of you are guilty of some of the things that caused these accidents.

also more interested in hearing about more safety tips and finding out where to buy those awesome full face shields.

Again sorry for the graphic videos, but i own quite a few grinders and i'm guilty of using them sometimes with just a pair of reader glasses on and nothing else.

please post any comments on the Grinder Safety 101 thread if you have any or here too if you feel they will help avoid some of these terrible accidents.

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=263083&page=2

 

[toolman_ar]

This is my first post, outside of my introduction.

Yesterday I purchased a very unique grinder and would like to ask for some help with identification.

This has a single spindle with one stone, not sure of the RPM. The switch looks to be early. There are oil gets on the bearings for the motor.

The only tag on the grinder states:

OILING
Gears in this box
Important
________Gear Oil
_______ Runs out at
Overflow

Looks like the tool rest is home made.

Any info you can provide would be great. I am looking to set this up to grind tool bits and will need a better rest. Let me see if I can post a picture.

toolman_ar

 

[FlyOverStateFarmboy]

Re: Dunlap 1950 1/4hp

i was happy to buy this from a local picker by me he wanted $25 i got it for $20
another member Greg Thor has one identical, i have not done anything to it yet this is just how i got it i don't think this grinder was hardly used the original cord does not even have any cracks in it thing runs like a champ the tool rest don't have any grind marks on them.Its a 6x3/4

I've got one of those too! I was poking around in the old garage at the farm and found Grandpa's old grinder. Built in 1949. Funny thing is, it's backwards...at least the middle metal band is facing the wrong way. Yours is in a lot better shape than mine. I started taking it apart, but can't seem to get the inner grinding wheel flange thing off. Do I take a puller to it? I've been spraying it with WD40. I don't want to break the cast aluminum. I would post pics, but it's being difficult right now.

 

[rickhigginshtbr]

I found Wrenchguy's Grinders twin! Well, maybe... Went to Eastern State Penitentiary last night for the "Terror behind the Walls" haunted house... in the "Machine Room", they're using a grinder of that size as a prop. Maybe someone real interested in one that large can throw them an offer for it?

 

[zkling]

Can't remember if I posted this one before or not. Picked it up over this past summer, needs a fresh coat of paint, one glass and sounds like a set of bearings. Should clean up as a nice grinder for tool sharpening. 30's-early 40's craftsman. Very heavy.

 

[Outlawmws]

You **** on that long C Craftsman ZK... is it the original paint?

 

[nine4gmc]

You **** on that long C Craftsman ZK... is it the original paint?

Yes he does, that thing has rear dust ports, eye shields and all!!

 

[Kirbot]

 

[zkling]

You **** on that long C Craftsman ZK... is it the original paint?

Yes he does, that thing has rear dust ports, eye shields and all!!

Thanks guy. It will get redone this winter. Outlaw, seeing how haphazardly the yellow was applied I highly doubt it is original. I think from the factory it was black on the ends and the base and center were a blue ish? The old catalog didn't list a color for them that I could see.

I also picked up a period matching drill press, complete middle pulley and all. Not sure what to do with that one. :

 

[Outlawmws]

Maybe you can "peel" the yellow off with SG? Then match the colors.

Setup the DP as a smaller light duty DP. I'm doing one like that from a long C atlas built DP.

Having a big DP is great for the big heavy duty jobs, but sometimes it's nice to have a smaller one for the small quick jobs...

 

[exmaxima1]

60's Rockwell 7-inch

Got this one locally a few months ago and after seeing all the fancy machines on this thread I gave it a quick coat of paint. It is ungodly heavy for such a small grinder, but it runs smooth as silk. The lighted eyeshields are the best I've ever seen on a grinder.

 

[BJ42LX]

Re: 60's Rockwell 7-inch

Got this one locally a few months ago and after seeing all the fancy machines on this thread I gave it a quick coat of paint. It is ungodly heavy for such a small grinder, but it runs smooth as silk. The lighted eyeshields are the best I've ever seen on a grinder.

exmaxima,

Is that unit 3450 or 1725 rpm?

Mine is 1725 rpm and I think it will be great for sharpening stuff. Once I find a place for it in the basement.

 

[exmaxima1]

Re: 60's Rockwell 7-inch

exmaxima,

Is that unit 3450 or 1725 rpm?

Mine is 1725 rpm and I think it will be great for sharpening stuff. Once I find a place for it in the basement.

Mine is 1725.

FWIW, I wouldn't sharpen quality knives on a grinding wheel. I even tried those paper wheels and didn't have much luck. I suggest either 1) Hone your bevel on a stone and polish the edge with a hard felt wheel, or 2) get a small belt grinder and learn to do convex edges. You use conventional belts to shape and refine the edge, and then use a leather strop belt to polish the edge---it's very fast to do and convex edges cut better/last longer.

 

[drivesitfar]

ALL: i rarely see a big Baldor this nice for sale so thought i'd let the GJ members have a shot at it if they didn't see it on our local Craigslist today. It's a 12 inch 3 phase monster for $1,000 and looks like it's all there and not abused.

here's the write up and the craigslist link.

http://seattle.craigslist.org/oly/tls/4736409653.html

Baldor 1216W Grinder 3HP three-phase, good working condition.. Includes wheel dresser.Features

Built for heavy duty grinding, powered by 3 hp Baldor motor
Slim design provides extra clearance for grinding odd-shaped pieces
Cast iron exhaust-type guards accommodate a 5" vent pipe
Adjustable cast iron tool rest, spark breaks and eyeshields
Grinder does not come with grinding wheels, pedestal, water pot and tool trays also optional
Optional grinding wheels are 12" diameter,2" wide 1-1/4" arbor hole
Manual starter with overload protection mounted on grinder
All units factory wired for 230 volts
Designed to comply with OSHA standards under normal usage

Enjoy

 

[McBrownie]

This one is not mine. I saw it on Craigslist and thought I would put the pictures up here. I've never seen one like this and probably for good reason. Looks like an accident waiting to happen.

http://cleveland.craigslist.org/tls/4729344747.html

 

[Outlawmws]

McB, Welders used to use setups like that for grinding welds a lot in shops back in the day. It's probably a (Pre OSHA) factory setup!

 

[balane]

Grabbed this one at an estate sale this morning. I really like it. It's a Wissota grinder, 8" wheels, 3/4 HP. All original and with crazy light use. Has rear exhaust ports. It runs super smooth too.

.

 

[Outlawmws]

GREAT find Balane!

 

[classicJackets]

Got this one today but not sure what it is. Could use any help identifying as I would like to replace bearings and such. Tag is unreadable other than "cx" etched on the right side. Haven't turned it on but it apparently runs strong. Has been rewired at some point but even that plug looks ancient!
Exhaust ports, and the thing probably weighs 60 pounds. 8"



Came on an awesome older cast iron stand, late 1800's or early 1900's

 

[dgmpam]

Picked up this Baldor 620 with Baldor stand at the local flea market for $36. Anyone know anything about these grinders?

 

[BJ42LX]

Mmmm. Baldor pedestal....

 

[classicJackets]

That's awesome for $36! What a deal.
So I have a dumb question. Taking mine apart for cleaning and refreshing, and I got the right side off after an overnight soaking in PB Blaster. How do you get wheels off both sides if the left side is left hand threaded? Since the right side of the spindle still spins freely, now with no nut. It's on there really well, and I bet neither disk has been changed in 10 years. (sitting outside, too) And there is no slot for a screwdriver.
Doug

 

[drivesitfar]

Classic: yes you have right and left handed threads on all the grinders i've ever seen or used. that might help you get the other wheel off? that old stand is pretty cool and never seen one like that. good find and no idea on the brand of your grinder so maybe something is written on the inside when you take it apart.

DGM: Baldor grinder and stand for a pittance. even if your grinder is junk which i doubt is the case that stand i think retails for about $300. even if you have to change the bearings on the Baldor grinder it's worth it because those are meant to run all day and keep on running. by the way your stand was originally probably for a 3 phase huge Baldor grinder and the owner put the smaller one you have on that stand.

nice find.

 

[classicJackets]

Sorry, I should add I got the right one off earlier. Just having trouble getting the left side broken loose. Putting the nut back on the right side to try and leverage against it just tightens that side further, to the point of damaging the threads, so I stopped. I think the grinder is pretty old. Definitely heavy duty as the outer casings are cast as well. Looks similar to a Wissota w10 ON EBAY right now, but the quench tray and main body have some differences.

 

[classicJackets]

Alright, I've gotten mine closer to all the way apart. On to taking the base off next and getting paint off the screws on the housing enough to open it up. I've found a few stamped in marks and would love some help ID'ing, as well as if anybody recognizes the "starter" well enough for me to know what to replace it with!
Here goes:

On/Off switch reads:
"UND. LAB. INSP. 6
CH (in a box)
MADE IN USA"



Tool Guard reads:
"14 C4224 A-1"


Starter: All I can read is
"124-1(4?)
120 VAC ???
MOTOR STARTING ????"


Bottom of the quenching tray. Reads:
" 28 A ?8A" and there is a letter D in a star/circle as well.


Lastly for identification, this is the color up underneath the base. Recognize it?


Any help appreciated!
Doug

 

[Fretters]

Came on an awesome older cast iron stand, late 1800's or early 1900's

That pedestal looks the dogs ********. Any chance of a few more photo's of that?

 

[classicJackets]

"BOSTON, MASS"


"A.D. PUFFER & SONS"




It's pretty cool. They were a soda fountain related product. I found some info saying they had a building built in Boston that was completed in 1898, but sold to a cigar manufacturer in 1905. Not much else on the company where I looked, but it said Alvin Puffer was a genius at the time and worked up until he died in the 1940's. So I don't know when to date it other than pre WWII.
Doug

 

[Fretters]

Cheers. That's a smart bit of repurposing which someone has done. That should look gorgeous when you fettle it.

 

[drivesitfar]

CJ: i totally agree. nice find. also thanks for sharing the history you found out about it.

 

[McBrownie]

On/Off switch reads:
"UND. LAB. INSP. 6
CH (in a box)
MADE IN USA"

Any help appreciated!
Doug

That would be a Cutler-Hammer. Looks like a DPST and you can get a new one here:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/220906089541?_trksid=p2059210.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

I just put one of these on my 3/4hp Block grinder. Made in USA and has a really good positive "click" to it, unlike the cheapo's from the big box stores.

Can't wait to see your's all put back together.

 

[bluebolt]

Dgmpam you ****! Nice score on the grinder.

 

[nine4gmc]

dgmpam you ****! Nice score on the grinder.

this^

 

[bluebolt]

this^

Looks just like the one I sold you! Raised lettering and all.

 

[jaker10]

Picked up this grinder and stand about a month ago. I think it was built in 1955. If I remember right I paid $60.00 Some one set up the right side to hold a cut off wheel.