logical
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I just might... send me a PM on what you had in mind... thanks.
Torqueman, thanks for the help, I didn't get much past the link to find the manual but I see there is a lot out there on both the grinders and the drill press.... just got home so going to go unload the DP now and see what I got myself into.logical - Cool, glad you snuck/sneaked/sucked over there. Good to see a fellow member bring the pre-Block home.
If you decide to pull it apart for a restore/refresh I have threads showing details of 2 I did. You can find them in the link in my Sig. Line, page 2, "1/4 H.P. m-115.19500 restore (Pre-block)" and "1/3 H.P. m-115.7566 (Pre-block)". Just a heads up, I have seen where the RH bearing stayed on the shaft and damaged the start-up...........
You're welcome.Torqueman, thanks for the help, I didn't get much past the link to find the manual but I see there is a lot out there on both the grinders and the drill press.... just got home so going to go unload the DP now and see what I got myself into.
BTW, I haven't looked yet but if anyone can point me to a source for the RH tool rest I'll be able to say it's complete. I saw some in the classifieds that might be right for it but they are not the part number that the parts list for the 1/4 pre block I have shows.
Nice score, and so convenient!Thanks Drives,
I been around, just haven't posted on this thread. I found the block at a estate on the way, just ran out of time before going inside.
It's complete with the quench tray, needs wheels.
Still going to move, just will be awhile. I hope to start on my block grinder table soon.
My coworker suggested that I may need to go to GA ( grinders anonymous) to deal with my "problem". Oh, the non believers.
Picked up a few other nice stuff, I'll post up on the garage sale thread when I get home.

Nice score, and so convenient!
What, wait --- you mean this isn't part of the 12 Step Grinders Anonymous Program?!?!![]()

Wish that this one was closer -- 3/4 HP Craftsman commercial block grinder on a crown top stand. Hope that someone from GJ gets it.
http://milwaukee.craigslist.org/tls/4791424905.html
CRAFTSMAN BENCH GRINDER ON STAND - $100 (WATERFORD)
HI-SELLING MY OLD GRINDER WITH STAND.BOUGHT AT A AUCTION YEARS AGO,AND JUST DON'T USE IT ANYMORE.ALL-METAL NOT PLASTIC! WORKS GREAT! NEEDS A NEW HOME. ASKING $100.00 OBO PLEASE CALL THE PHONE NUMBER IF INTERESTED. THANX AND MERRY CHRISTMAS-SORRY I DON'T KNOW HOW TO ROTATE THE PICTURES-JUST HAPPY I CAN POST THIS AT ALL-LOL

Wish that this one was closer -- 3/4 HP Craftsman commercial block grinder on a crown top stand. Hope that someone from GJ gets it.
http://milwaukee.craigslist.org/tls/4791424905.html
CRAFTSMAN BENCH GRINDER ON STAND - $100 (WATERFORD)
HI-SELLING MY OLD GRINDER WITH STAND.BOUGHT AT A AUCTION YEARS AGO,AND JUST DON'T USE IT ANYMORE.ALL-METAL NOT PLASTIC! WORKS GREAT! NEEDS A NEW HOME. ASKING $100.00 OBO PLEASE CALL THE PHONE NUMBER IF INTERESTED. THANX AND MERRY CHRISTMAS-SORRY I DON'T KNOW HOW TO ROTATE THE PICTURES-JUST HAPPY I CAN POST THIS AT ALL-LOL
Missing eyeshields and the lamp, but that stand is cool. If you were going to put on aftermarket eyeshields, a lamp, and new bearings, you would have another $50-$60 into it. Oh, and end up with one heck of a grinder, btw. Those 8-inchers are old-school beasts.



McB: looking forward to hearing how it works when you start using it.
Well, I've been using it to "fix" it, if that makes any sense.I still stand by my original rating that this is a very nice high-end home owner tool. If it was in constant use, I think it would drive an operator kind of nuts. Each belt tracks a little differently and seems to require adjustment with each use. However, for occasional use, it is a really nice tool. For example, I had to shorten up some of the replacement bolts and it was much easier than working on stone wheels. It ran cooler, didn't "bounce", and didn't try to yank the bolt out of my hands like a stone wheel sometimes can. The rubber contact wheel is smooth - almost soft feeling. It also works faster, but the smoothness is the best part. I also polished up the grinder tool rest mounting rods and it was much faster than wire wheeling and sanding like I have done on some vise handles in the past. So far, so good!
OK, I added a 3/4 HP Industrial for you to the list.TM: i'd probably buy a 3/4 if one came up with the heavy duty tool rests like i think that one does. especially if it looked as nice as Big Blue when you finished restoring it for me. ....
Funny, v. funny.Old jakemac Donald had a shop, ei, ei, oh.
With a flat top here,
and a round top there,
here a round top, there a pre-block,
ei, ei, ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
I picked up another round top this morning. Not that I need another one, but I JUST HAD TO HAVE THAT STAND. So, now I have 5 (including the pre-block).
1966 1/3hp 6" #397.19580 w/original manual and stand.
It's missing the eye shields and side covers. The quench tray plug and light plug are still intact, so they weren't part of the original purchase.
This one is "Industrial Rated", but doesn't have the exhaust ports. It's in great shape (the paint is a little worn), and runs smooth (45 second run-down with no bearing noise). Even the cord is in good shape.
Since I'm only interested in the stand, this one may be available (someday). I still need to think about it.

Thanks, everyone thanks!TM and CB: are either one of you up to 12 blocks yet? I've got 3, but quite a few cousins are hanging around.
TM we are still here for you if you need us, because as you know we all need your wisdom. so 2 steps or 12 steps or a partridge in a pear tree off to the Craigslist block shopping store we go.

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OK, I have some reading to catch up on; great posts from the quick scan I was able to give them.
Before I nod off, I was asked about how to get a grinder apart when the bearing/shaft(arbor)/housing assembly do not come apart.
This is what I have used. Feel free to comment, improve, suggest other ways.
Look through this thread, that grinder had the most difficult /rusted arbor/shaft.
http://tinyurl.com/Go-Blue-Block-Grinder
I've had good luck with the following method.
1 - soak shaft, housing, and bearing interfaces with penetrating oil of choice and let sit. No need to flood it, just dampen.
2 - support housing between 2 pieces of wood, with threaded portion of arbor/shaft upwards. Leave room below for the full length of the shaft above the housing to move down. If you are able to use a vise, be sure to keep the assembly from getting away from you and dropping to the floor when the arbor/shaft do separate from the housing. Don't close the jaws of the vise on the arbor/shaft or under the bearing.
3 - thread the appropriate nut flush onto the end of the shaft to protect the threads. With a soft face hammer tap on the nut. The object is to keep the housing stationary and drive the arbor/shaft down and away from the housing. The bearing may stay in the housing or may stay with the arbor.
4a - bearing stays on the shaft. Inspect and clean the shaft for rust, nicks, etc ... between the bearing and threaded end of arbor/shaft. Use the same method in step 2 to remove the bearing from the shaft.
4b - bearing stays in the housing. Support the housing with wood, outside of housing facing upwards. Select a socket just smaller than the outer diameter of the bearing, but not as big as the housing opening. Using a soft face hammer, drive the bearing from the housing.
5 - inspect and clean up surfaces of rust, nicks, burrs, ... before reassembly.
Best of luck.
Mike
drivesit - Although I need to thin the heard, most are 1/2 and under, and not sought after like the 3/4 & 1 HP Blocks.
TM:...................no cooking in it and don't use the family's oven for paint guys because as Outlaw mentioned on a post a few weeks ago the fumes might get in your food.

I'd worry less about fumes in my food and worry more about a rolling pin up against the side of my head.![]()




McB: it's ok to want a bigger and more powerful block grinder or any tool for that matter. i think that is the way we learn so budget is sometimes a good thing. how many stories have you heard where a 16 year old son gets a brand new Porsche or Dad's spiffed up car in the garage and then drives it into a tree and never sees his 17th birthday.
some of us were driving what ever we could afford and it was usually a huge hunk of metal that sucked gas like it was water on a hot day. then when we hit something we had a little more protection to keep us alive.
now back to my point. i would put my 1950's pre-block Craftsman with a 1/4 HP up against every 1/2 HP import if there was a test we could do. 1/3 HP blocks are plenty of power for a homeowner and anything above that is a bonus. sure if you do a lot of wire wheeling good old rusty US steel you want all the power you can afford or find.
I'm not sure our "block" or maybe tool vice is a 12 step and the only things that keep us from buying better tools is maybe because we can't find the tool or sometimes a lack of cash.
what do you think of my oven idea guys?
cheers
Breaking News Alert - CM grinder stand on CL Pittsburgh, 2 hours ago. $25!
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PM sent.I told ExMax this in PM. For me, the line of demarcation is the 1/2hp cap-start with that and anything bigger getting my attention. I know, I have become a Block Snob. Is there a 12-step program for block-snobbery?![]()
