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I've attached the trusses to the top plates of the front/rear walls with the clips in your first link yes...
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as well I plan to timberlock screw them from the inside

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I'm talking specifically about the interior 8' apartment walls (even tho they'll only be a few), nailing-screwing-clipping them in some fashion to the truss bottom chords where they cross paths.

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I'm talking specifically about the interior 8' apartment walls
Every builder I have worked with, with the exception of one, would screw the interior walls to the trusses. The one that didn't, I recall him getting a number of complaints about wavy ceiling joints before the 1 year home warranty expired. I can't say for certain if that was the cause, but for the minimal cost and time vs. your project as a whole, why not do it?
 
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Agree and my intentions have always been to do so. I was curious to hear a good reason why one shouldn't etc. etc. thanks!
 

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Many contractors and architects are moving away from PVC trim due to the high expansion and contraction issues. You will lose every **** and miter joint, no matter if you nail the **** out of each joint or pvc cement each joint. The old residential architecture firm I use to work for would refuse using PVC trim, no matter how badly the client was pushing for it.

If you are in a climate region that sees all four seasons, I would high recommend using the fiber cement board over the PVC.
 
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^^thanks guys - it is fun 4 sure... My 36" x 96" man door should be in this Friday. Fiberglass door. Painting it red to match the red door the wife wants to put on the house. It'll have the craftsman window with vertical grill up high. Hopefully the 8' tall man door will make the 10x10 overhead doors not look so overpowering beside our farm house. Trying to keep this NOT looking like a 2700 sq.ft. 3 stall garage. :)
 

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I love that roof! I did snap lok on mine and it looks pretty close. That roof won't leak and will last 100 years.
 

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Great project. The standing seam looks awesome. Regarding siding options, there are so many. You should consider cement board panels / siding and maybe IPE planks for accents.

I think a white finish would look really slick with your standing seam roof. You should edge the whole building with gravel / river rocks to prevent splashing of dirt on the siding or walls.

http://www.trendir.com/house-design/contemporary-take-on-the-warm-country-home.html

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^thanks quad
Those examples you posted sure are sharp. I like the blue/white scenario as well. I'm leaning towards blue roof, white trim-windows-overhead doors, herringbone'ish colored siding, gray porch floors and cement, red man doors
 
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My garage man door arrived today.
What's the best method/paint etc. to coat a primed fiberglass entry door? It'll be behind a glass storm door FYI.
Wife wants it to be red. :)
 

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Finally found a few minutes to expand my comment. My wife also wanted a red door. Our door was also a primed fiberglass door. We chose a Sherwin Williams color, followed their advice and had it sprayed with a gray base coat for the primer. This does 2 things, first it brings out any factory imperfections so you can fill/repair them now and second, it prevents the need for a tremendous # of red coats to be painted. Spray all coats as light as possible and allow extended dry time between coats, especially the gray coat.
 
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Thanks - door is turning out nice. Have been busy with work & life - few hrs between here and there thrown at the garage/apartment project. Painted the downstairs ceiling white recently...
Josh

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Thank you... I had never used the EZStairs brackets but picked a few sets up last year uber cheap and decided to try 'em out. I never liked the idea of cutting so much out of 2x12s and really didn't want a mid span support. Using two 2x8s for each side made for an extremely sturdy set of stairs. They are 51" wide. Total rise 121", run 150". Tread rise 7.5", run 10.5".
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Those are some mighty nice looking stairs. What's the plan for the finish on them ? Anything fancy ?

Well... honestly I hadn't thought much about that until you posed the question. :) These were my first 'interior stairs'... as in I've built outdoor stairs on decks, patios, barns, garages, but nothing that was this 'quality'. ha

First shot would be to paint the sides white, risers grey (to match the grey steel work), and then add a nice charcoal colored rubber tread - post apartment construction of course.

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Thoughts?

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Started building some walls Saturday... will finish them up once the pocket door kits arrive and I carry the tub/shower upstairs and get it in place. :)

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Four pocket door kits arrived...
Picked up the one piece bath/shower unit.
Wired up outlets & lights in the garage.

Off to scout camps for the next two weeks!

Josh
 
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Had the privilege to attend a week of boy scout summer camp with my oldest son, then directly thereafter a week of cub scout summer camp with my youngest. Much fun was had... now back to the garage project. :)
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Well I've been busy and haven't posted much... Still plugging away on the garage/apartment build.

Put the windows in...

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Took the dog and boys hiking yesterday

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Started up with some siding

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Hey thanks for checking in - unfortunately I've not had much time to work on it this summer with my boys being very active in scouts, 4H, rifle team, camping, etc. Should be hitting it pretty hard mid month and continuing on until it's complete pre-snow flying. :)
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Still alive... busy prepping for winter and being undermined by a longwall coal mine in October. :/
This brings me to a heating question for anyone with insight to radiant heat systems. For many years I've heated my shop with a simple Takagi THWH and in-floor radiant hot water heat. It's worked flawlessly minus a fan failure in the Takagi. The basic system is as such (not all the valves and whatnot diagrammed etc.):

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Now for the bad news... I'm loosing my free natural gas (from a well on the property) due to the longwall coal mine. They buy out the wells and plug them at the level of the coal seam so they can mine through them etc. I can talk all about that at some point if anyone is interested... but basically I have to switch to other heating sources for my house, garage (what this thread is about), and my shop - which this is a question for. I plan to switch out my NG Takagi for a LP version and add an outdoor wood boiler as primary heat source. The LP THWH is relatively cheap and the Hardy 120k btu OWB was given to me. What I want to have happen is the LP THWH serve as backup for when I'm away for days and unable to feed the wood boiler. I quickly threw the following together (obviously without valves and many details shown) as a method to incorporate the two heat sources for my shop.

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My thoughts were to have a thermostat control the pump in the radiant floor system to circulate the water through a... say 50 plate heat exchanger as well as activate the wood boiler when it drops below 65 degF. Then if the shop temperature fell to say 50 degF (which may indicate the wood boiler is no longer producing heat) a second thermostat would open the two NC valves and close the NO valve allowing the LP THWH to provide heat to the floor radiant loops.

I know there is probably a lot missing from my quick diagrams and many questions someone gifted in HVAC would ask - but am I anywhere close to a simple integration of these two heat sources?

Thanks,
Josh
 
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My thoughts were that the heat exchanger would be in the shop - and any heat loss from it is heat gained in the space.
As far as the outdoor wood boiler - there will be days go by it isn't being used so I need a method to protect it from freezing.
 
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Long time no updates -

From above, heat plate exchanger didn't work so well... plumbed it direct and have heated with wood for 2yrs now.

Otherwise - mid Oct. 2016 the long wall coal mine passed under us in a few days... over the next 45 days our entire property and everyone around us dropped 4' (that is feet) in elevation. Farm house took the biggest hit... I'll come back and describe things in more detail but we have settled with the mining company and am now returning to construction on the garage. Snow will be here soon!

Josh
 
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