vintage nut
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Thanks man! I'll trade knives for MAC and hazet lol trying to make my tools pay for themselves (or at least pay for more haha)
you can never have too many tools
The VISES of Garage Journal
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you can never have too many tools
bagged89s10
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I recently posted here about the refurbishing of a Wilton C1 I bought at auction last week.
I was searching online for replacement jaws for this vise, because mine were in bad shape. Lots of cutting torch damage, and overall wear and tear.
When I saw what replacement jaws are selling for, I reconsidered my options.
I decided to weld up the holes and see if I could save my jaws.
Filling in the voids:
Ground them back to shape:
Used a 60 degree triangle file to re-cut the faces of the jaws:
And they are more than good enough to last another forty years or so:
So, then I swapped the Wilton onto my workbench, in place of the Athol I had there:
And I was going to swap the Athol onto my welding bench in place of the Craftsman that currently resides there:
But the more I looked at it, the less I could see any reason to replace the Craftsman. It has better jaws than the Athol, and is the same size, and has served me well as a welding bench vice, so I decides to keep it there.
So, my 4-1/2" Athol is now homeless, relegated to storage status. Oh well, I only paid $20 for it anyway.
That's a great idea with the triangle file! Good fix
~Veeps
Outlawmws
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Steevo, build a stand for it. It has no swivel, so from that perspective it's perfect, as who doesn't need an "I need a vise over here" vise? 
oldldh
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My son, everyone knows...
That wee beastie is the one-of-one "Limited Edition Garage Journal Collectible Series"...
That's cheap...
I would have thought it would be nudging five figures, by now...
Outlawmws
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VA: Vinegar and brass makes the brass look like copper (it leaches the tin out somehow) so I would not go there.
You can do a quick swipe with vinegar and usually get away with it, but a soak will do the copper thing to it.
You can do a quick swipe with vinegar and usually get away with it, but a soak will do the copper thing to it.
454ragtop
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Hey Veeps, sorry I wasn't clear, my post was referring to the Athol loudog asked about. Have a Parker swivel or 2, but they're not currently in use.
Jim
Outlawmws
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Thought on this vise. Its on CL for $35. Seller sent me a better picture and all its says it
AM CO ATHOL
MASS
USA
I'm guessing that is one of the micro mini vises, and yep I'd pay $35 for it in a heartbeat.
bagged89s10
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Haha. I wasn't paying attention. I was typing while waiting in line at the grocery store.
~Veeps
va. [B said:Vintage[/B],---Respect for the love of knives and knife making.---A knife-maker is a sculptor and an artist.---I made the blade for my biggest knife with a Dremel tool and 1 1/2'' cut-off wheels, because I didn't have a jig.---Friend had the elk horn and affixed it to the blade.---That's another project I will never attempt again.
Ahhhh...the knifemaking....it's been my passion for over 20 years as well as blacksmithing. I play with the vises I find as my old shoulder heals from too much hammer work.My most recent;
$35 for a nice little old vise? It should of been in your garage already! Go get it bro!va. [B said:Vintage[/B],---Respect for the love of knives and knife making.---A knife-maker is a sculptor and an artist.---I made the blade for my biggest knife with a Dremel tool and 1 1/2'' cut-off wheels, because I didn't have a jig.---Friend had the elk horn and affixed it to the blade.---That's another project I will never attempt again.
Ahhhh...the knifemaking....it's been my passion for over 20 years as well as blacksmithing. I play with the vises I find as my old shoulder heals from too much hammer work.
Holy mother of all that is holy, take my money now.
That is absolutely amazing work! Where do you live, here on the eastern side of the mountains? I'm up outside of Colville. Keep up the great work!
I might do that...I have enough pictures of past work, I could choke this site up for days! HA HA
drivesitfar
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JB: i can't speak for everyone, but that is one dandy knife and happy you posted it if you made it yourself. i don't know much about knifemaking, but the pattern you did on that blade and the carved figure in the handle is amazing.
Loudog: i can understand money is tight or that you don't need another vise, but Athol vises are far above the $35 price range in quality and not real common in my area. thanks for posting and if it isn't cracked or welded on it's a money maker or user.
Steevo: awesome job and i think i mentioned you can also buy some copper jaws off of Ebay for $35 that are 6 inches wide for extra gripping power. here's a Wilton C1 i sold that had those copper jaws on it.
VN: nice looking trio
Loudog: i can understand money is tight or that you don't need another vise, but Athol vises are far above the $35 price range in quality and not real common in my area. thanks for posting and if it isn't cracked or welded on it's a money maker or user.
Steevo: awesome job and i think i mentioned you can also buy some copper jaws off of Ebay for $35 that are 6 inches wide for extra gripping power. here's a Wilton C1 i sold that had those copper jaws on it.
VN: nice looking trio
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wkndwarrior29
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Hey GJ,
Today I picked up my first vice(s). I was buying some other stuff and worked them into the deal.
The nicer one is a Morgan Chicago 45, I think it just needs a good cleaning and some grease.
The rusty one is a Chas Parker 105, it's all there but needs some work.
I ended up paying $75 for the pair, I usually like to research something to death first but I didn't have the chance. How do you think I did?
Dustin
Today I picked up my first vice(s). I was buying some other stuff and worked them into the deal.
The nicer one is a Morgan Chicago 45, I think it just needs a good cleaning and some grease.
The rusty one is a Chas Parker 105, it's all there but needs some work.
I ended up paying $75 for the pair, I usually like to research something to death first but I didn't have the chance. How do you think I did?
Dustin
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cretedog
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va. [B said:Vintage[/B],---Respect for the love of knives and knife making.---A knife-maker is a sculptor and an artist.---I made the blade for my biggest knife with a Dremel tool and 1 1/2'' cut-off wheels, because I didn't have a jig.---Friend had the elk horn and affixed it to the blade.---That's another project I will never attempt again.
Ahhhh...the knifemaking....it's been my passion for over 20 years as well as blacksmithing. I play with the vises I find as my old shoulder heals from too much hammer work.
Exquisite, Junebuggy!
(My shoulder knows that feeling as well)
GETRIDAONE
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Steevo, The feeling in your fingers should come back in 2 to 3 weeks after all that filing. I did one
and never again !!
and never again !!
Outlawmws
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Lu. looks to me like you are 8-3/32...
Outlawmws
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I think you **** quite a bit... (Don't freak out, that is actually high praise arund here
)Outlawmws
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JB that is one spectacular knife! 
Thanks fellas....the blade was made using 1084 H/C steel blended with a 15n20 nickel creating a Damascus billet that is 228 folds. The feather pattern is created by splitting the completed forged billet slowly (almost like fire wood splitting. The slow downward split creates the veins of the feather pattern. The billet is then forged back together and sliced on a band saw to make the blade. I use a Foredom drill to do the carving on the antler.
FMC1959
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If there are no cracks or welds, you made a super deal
Beautiful work you do JB
I recently posted here about the refurbishing of a Wilton C1 I bought at auction last week.
I was searching online for replacement jaws for this vise, because mine were in bad shape.
And they are more than good enough to last another forty years or so:
Awesome job bringing those jaws back to life
drivesitfar
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JB: you make it sound so easy and i know it's not. nice work and I think VA or another member started a knife thread where you and Vintage and others can add on to it. or maybe you can make a new thread and show us how to attempt to make a piece of steel into a work of art.
WW: one of the vises looks like it might be missing a pin or sleeve holding the main screw in the dynamic, but at that price for both i'd expect a few issues and those are not small vises.
Lu-Max-congrats and that did sound a bit weird, but welcome to the 8 inch club from a non-member
WW: one of the vises looks like it might be missing a pin or sleeve holding the main screw in the dynamic, but at that price for both i'd expect a few issues and those are not small vises.
Lu-Max-congrats and that did sound a bit weird, but welcome to the 8 inch club from a non-member
danstead
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CM 5195 vise
Hello CM vise guru's, I recently picked up a 3.5" CM vise and have a few questions. The vise seems to open and close quite smoothly but the spindle nut seems to have a lot of lateral play in the main dynamic housing. I'm not sure if this is from general wear since 1955 or could this be a nut from a different vise? Green arrows on image show the gap I'm referring to.
The Reed 104 I picked up in January does not have this much play between the nut and housing-- very minimal.
Thanks!!
Hello CM vise guru's, I recently picked up a 3.5" CM vise and have a few questions. The vise seems to open and close quite smoothly but the spindle nut seems to have a lot of lateral play in the main dynamic housing. I'm not sure if this is from general wear since 1955 or could this be a nut from a different vise? Green arrows on image show the gap I'm referring to.
The Reed 104 I picked up in January does not have this much play between the nut and housing-- very minimal.
Thanks!!
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wrenchguy
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I am now officially an 8-Inch Member!
Um wait,,,, that didn't sound quite right did it?
congrats! did the dynamic slide come out ok?
danstead
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Junebuggy,
Tremendous piece of fine art!!! Thanks for sharing.
Steevo, those jaws look great! Your pics help all of us Vise Newbie's!!
Tremendous piece of fine art!!! Thanks for sharing.
Steevo, those jaws look great! Your pics help all of us Vise Newbie's!!
Outlawmws
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Slide that nut out and take pics, but I don't think that is the original nut...
topop101
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Here's what mine looks like . it's a 58 so may be different
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JeremyBurke
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va. [B said:Vintage[/B],---Respect for the love of knives and knife making.---A knife-maker is a sculptor and an artist.---I made the blade for my biggest knife with a Dremel tool and 1 1/2'' cut-off wheels, because I didn't have a jig.---Friend had the elk horn and affixed it to the blade.---That's another project I will never attempt again.
Ahhhh...the knifemaking....it's been my passion for over 20 years as well as blacksmithing. I play with the vises I find as my old shoulder heals from too much hammer work.
It might be off topic but I do not care in the least. You sir are a master of your craft. I dream to one day be as good at anything as you are at making knives and working metal. What a place it would be if we could all be even half that good at what we chose to spend our time on. Please start a thread or a galley somewhere so we can all go and drool and feel inadequate together.
JeremyBurke
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You guys are teasing me. I really wanna trade my 5-48 for a 10-56 and you keep dancing around the date with you '55's and '58's.
balane
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Junebuggy, Steevo... blowing my mind here. 
va.grouseman
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Junebug,---I was the first to veer off track and I'm glad I did or I might not have ever seen that masterpiece.---If that's not art, neither is the Mona Lisa,---The Last Supper,---or The Scream.---If it helps, all my knife-work was done with the aid of my 608 Columbian.---My third hand held the blade while I ground on it.---Back on track.---Thanks for sharing Junebug.---+1 on the custom knife thread.
Steevo,---That is beautiful file work on the jaw inserts to.---Another form of sculpting.---That's how I'm making my brass pipe jaws.---It's not fun and it's not fast and you just about burn out after a long session.
---I have to put it away for a day or two, and then go back to it.
Steevo,---That is beautiful file work on the jaw inserts to.---Another form of sculpting.---That's how I'm making my brass pipe jaws.---It's not fun and it's not fast and you just about burn out after a long session.
---I have to put it away for a day or two, and then go back to it.KMScott
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steevo, this is how I cut mine.
<a href="http://visejaws.smugmug.com/Jaw-Cutting/i-wDGKH4C/A" title="Photo & Video Sharing by SmugMug"><img src="http://visejaws.smugmug.com/Jaw-Cutting/i-wDGKH4C/0/S/Serration%20Cutter%20Sharpening%20%282%29-S.jpg" title="Photo & Video Sharing by SmugMug" alt="Photo & Video Sharing by SmugMug"></a>
I remember seeing a milling machine in your shop, hand filing is hard on your fingers. These three pair take 45 minutes to serrate.
Curious to what type of welding rod you used and did it get pretty hard after welding. Nice work.
VA, you need some help??
<a href="http://visejaws.smugmug.com/Jaw-Cutting/i-wDGKH4C/A" title="Photo & Video Sharing by SmugMug"><img src="http://visejaws.smugmug.com/Jaw-Cutting/i-wDGKH4C/0/S/Serration%20Cutter%20Sharpening%20%282%29-S.jpg" title="Photo & Video Sharing by SmugMug" alt="Photo & Video Sharing by SmugMug"></a>
I remember seeing a milling machine in your shop, hand filing is hard on your fingers. These three pair take 45 minutes to serrate.
Curious to what type of welding rod you used and did it get pretty hard after welding. Nice work.
VA, you need some help??
vintage nut
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Maybe its just me, but I would much rather have smooth brass or aluminum jaws in a vise I'm using. Most of my work is stuff I don't want jaw marks in, and it saves me having to use jaw covers every time. I made the first pair with a hacksaw and a drillpress.
I guess for collectors value the original jaws are nice, but I'm not really a huge fan in terms of use
you can never have too many tools
I guess for collectors value the original jaws are nice, but I'm not really a huge fan in terms of use
you can never have too many tools
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joe.striper
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Danstead, that is the same spindle nut as I have in my 5196 (I'm 90% sure. I'll check tomorrow). Did you try just putting it back in and then and adjusting the lash adjuster so it is tight? The simplest thing would be to shim the bottom of the spindle nut til it is tight then reinstall the lash adjuster and tighten it up.
just my 2 cents
Outlawmws
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Dan, that backlash adjusting cut was what I was looking for; Its certainly the right style of nut, but that loose fit makes no sense, unless possible there are shims missing. I don't recall seeing any shims on mine...