Is there a reason why no one makes an electric air chisel?

[6MocoA]

Most other air tools have their corresponding cordless versions. But Ive never seen a cordless/electric version of an air chisel. With 18V batteries able to power impact guns to 700 ft/lbs, you would think they could make an 18V air chisel that could have some bite to it.

Am I missing something or is there some real word impediment to making an electric air chisel?

 

[Scimmia]

Many air tools use an air motor that spins, very similar in function to an electric motor. An air hammer/chisel doesn't.

 

[6MocoA]

Many air tools use an air motor that spins, very similar in function to an electric motor. An air hammer/chisel doesn't.

Hmmm, thanks for the explanation. That makes sense.

 

[rlitman]

You want an SDS+ rotary hammer with rotation stop. They do exist.

 

[Ign]

Many air tools use an air motor that spins, very similar in function to an electric motor. An air hammer/chisel doesn't.

Sure but a sawzall reciprocates so I'd think this could be adapted to a hammer-esque application. It may require some beefing of the mechanicals of course.

You want an SDS+ rotary hammer with rotation stop. They do exist.

This. But something that takes .401 hammer shank bits would be nice.

 

[Scimmia]

Sure but a sawzall reciprocates so I'd think this could be adapted to a hammer-esque application. It may require some beefing of the mechanicals of course.

Sure, it's not that it can't be done. Simply that it isn't as easy as it is with other tools.

 

[ncfh]

Did you even bother to look?

Bosch, Hilti, Makita, etc all make electric and even cordless impact tools.

They're often not as compact as an air tool, but what electric tool is?

 

[6MocoA]

Did you even bother to look?

Bosch, Hilti, Makita, etc all make electric and even cordless impact tools.

They're often not as compact as an air tool, but what electric tool is?

I did bother to look, I didnt find anything that resembled an air chisel - I guess I mustve missed it. Would you mind posting a link or two?

 

[LouisianaRebel]

I did bother to look, I didnt find anything that resembled an air chisel - I guess I mustve missed it. Would you mind posting a link or two?

Like this?

 

[6MocoA]

Like this?

Yup!

Wow, thanks. I thought I looked through every Milwaukee tool in the lineup a few weeks ago, but sure enough, look at that!

 

[LouisianaRebel]

Sweet. Heres the link http://www.milwaukeetool.com/search-results?FullTextKeywords=chisel&result+type=power+tools

 

[rlitman]

This. But something that takes .401 hammer shank bits would be nice.

Meh, .401 *****. I'm really partial to my .498 CP 717, but even that isn't everything. The rotation stop in SDS is really nice with a flat chisel. There are air chisels that have that (I've got a 4-bolt .680 oval lock one, and hex also does this), but the fact that plain round shank hammers rotate on their own can be pretty annoying to me except when using a pointed chisel or straight rivet set.

 

[rlitman]

Yup!

Wow, thanks. I thought I looked through every Milwaukee tool in the lineup a few weeks ago, but sure enough, look at that!

Yep indeed. That's SDS. Look at the knob on the side. You can turn it from rotate only to rotate and hammer to hammer only. Just keep in mind that the hammer action isn't as fast or powerful as a pneumatic chisel of comparable size or weight.

 

[zkling]

Yes, look at how each one is designed. Certain tools are much better suited to air power (air hammers, die grinder and impacts for example) over electric. While they do make electric versions, as mentioned above, they are not nearly as compact. I predict we will see battery powered hammers in the near future. But the air hammer is here to stay for a while. Black and Decker as well as a few other companies produced a smaller electric hammer back in the day (~60's) and while they work they don't have much more power than a good pneumatic at ~15x the weight and size is about the same as modern rotary hammer drills.

 

[DonPowers]

I've used one of these, Bosch Rotary Hammer. It has three modes, rotary hammer, hammer only and rotary only. Its a fairly light duty rig and goes for $300. If you are looking for something with a substantial duty cycle, be prepared to pay.

http://www.lowes.com/pd_329950-353-...=p_product_qty_sales_dollar|1&facetInfo=Bosch

 

[NeuseRvrRat]

http://www.lowes.com/pd_139458-353-...pl=1&currentURL=?Ntt=rotary+hammer&facetInfo=

I rented one of these to bust some notches in the foundation footers on my detached and my house when I ran the conduit to get power to the detached. Worked great. Excellent machine.

 

[kctyphoon]

you just need ANY sds hammer drill that you can lock out the drill function and just use the hammer.. the milwaukee in the picture is a drill, not a "chisel". some WONT do this.. some of the smaller corded Hilti's, cannot be a "hammer only" tool.. however, the small bosch bulldog can.. i bought one used at a yardsale for $40, just for this reason.. you can buy many different size and style of chisels to use with these, however - they are aimed at masonary work, and not really metal or automotive work..

id imagine that there isnt a dedicated corded chisel tool like that air type, simply because there is not much of a market for one..

and also - an impact tool is in NO way similar to an air chisel or hammer drill.. impact drivers or wrenches impact during rotation, in a clockwise or counter clockwise manner. picture hitting a wrench with a hammer while trying to loosen a stubborn bolt. hammer drills impact front wards, towards the hole or material - just like you would hit a nail with a hammer. they are two very different things.

 

[capcarl]

An "electric" "air"?! Isn't that a non-sequitur??

 

[rlitman]

An "electric" "air"?! Isn't that a non-sequitur??

Not really. SDS uses a pneumatic based hammer inside.

 

[TheGrooveking]

I've often thought why hasn't Milwaukee, DeWalt, Bosch etc... 18 volt cordless tool manufacture make a "air hammer equavilent", not a large rotary hammer with hammer fuction. My chiropractor has both AC and DC corded hammer units that he / she outs various reinforced nylon bits. These things can hit will some power and are adjustable so the technology is out there. I want a cordless 18V LiIon powered unit that is both compact and uses my .401 shank bits.

TheGrooveking

 

[jfon101231]

Has there been any development here I'm not aware of in ~5 years? I am looking for something that will drive pins out of hydraulic pistons in the field - and sometimes they are bent like the moon so looking for something easier than getting enough room to swing a huge sledge and avoid smashing thumbs...

Would also come in handy to use with a "screw knocker" device - seems like the 'regular' impact screwdrivers you whack with a hammer never work for me.

 

[shannos]

I don't know. I had the same question about 1/4" or 3/8" corded ratchets. No one makes them. Got beat up on these pages for even asking the question. Everyone loves batteries. I finally went with the herd.

 

[ihateminimumwage]

Has there been any development here I'm not aware of in ~5 years? I am looking for something that will drive pins out of hydraulic pistons in the field - and sometimes they are bent like the moon so looking for something easier than getting enough room to swing a huge sledge and avoid smashing thumbs...

Nothing yet, and I'm sure it will be a while before they aren't a joke like the earliest electric impacts.

All I can recommend is a CP717 air hammer and air compressor (these can do a lot of work even with a small dual tank nail gun compressor) or a port-a-power (along with threaded rod and a welder depending on access).

Service truck? Farm rig? What are you working with and on?

 

[jfon101231]

I work on snow plows and sometimes that requires field visits for certain customers

 

[ihateminimumwage]

I work on snow plows and sometimes that requires field visits for certain customers

So lots of pins that never see grease, get seized up from salt/MC and bent from impact? Been regularly working on skid steers that go through the same abuse and can definitely understand why you're looking into a better hammer option than by hand.

Pretty much stuck with a compressor and air hammer, or worst case a 10lb sawed off sledge (have an 8lb at maybe 12" and a 10lb at 24"). Heat helps if available.

 

[jfon101231]

Yup, you got it. The really bent ones get pounded and then cut every inch or two but just sometimes very slow going so was hoping for a silver bullet.

 

[Rc_Guy]

When I worked we had some hammer drills that you could turn a dial and just drill or just chisel also

 

[tez929rr]

I asked the same question not long ago, and the short answer is no. Cordless demolition hammers yes, but not chisels. The system in my thread worked out great for us but we carry around high pressure bottles. It wouldn’t work for most people.


https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=467152

 

[Rc_Guy]

Bosch makes this one you can chisel with.

Don’t know why my pictures are not showing up.

 

[jfon101231]

Yeah, have seen those SDS but was hoping for something more compact. Will have to make do for a few more years lol.