Vintage craftsman table saw find

[bagged89s10]

I'm picking this craftsman table saw up today for free. The guy said it ran a few years ago but doesn't run now, just needs to be rewired. I don't think I can go wrong for free.





~Veeps

 

[Bill Ramsey]

I don't think I can go wrong for free.

Very little downside to 'free'!

If nothing else, you're building an inventory of parts for use, sale, or trade.

 

[Zeke]

From what I can see in the pics get everything you can from there. Looks to be some interesting stuff.

 

[bagged89s10]

Very little downside to 'free'!



If nothing else, you're building an inventory of parts for use, sale, or trade.

I'm hoping I can get it to run and use this spring. My wife will be happy that I can finish her kitchen pantry. As she says "happy wife happy life."


~Veeps

 

[bagged89s10]

Nice! Can't go wrong for free.



The first thing to check on these old 8" single-handle saws is the tilt gear. They are notorious for stripping teeth.

Thanks for the info. I will take a look at that when. I get her home.


~Veeps

 

[bagged89s10]

From what I can see in the pics get everything you can from there. Looks to be some interesting stuff.

Yeah it's in antique country so I emailed him asking what else he has. I might be able to help him clean out and load up some cool stuff.


~Veeps

 

[shoot summ]

As already mentioned, the teeth on the gear for raise and tilt is stripped on a good number of these saws. The other issue I see a lot is that the arbor is smaller than a typical blade. You need an insert(I get them at HF) to make it work properly. Going by memory, I think the arbor is 1/2" and most blades are 5/8". I've "fixed" a lot of these saws that had this issue, the PO couldn't figure out why the saw wanted to walk across the floor.

 

[bagged89s10]

As already mentioned, the teeth on the gear for raise and tilt is stripped on a good number of these saws. The other issue I see a lot is that the arbor is smaller than a typical blade. You need an insert(I get them at HF) to make it work properly. Going by memory, I think the arbor is 1/2" and most blades are 5/8". I've "fixed" a lot of these saws that had this issue, the PO couldn't figure out why the saw wanted to walk across the floor.

That's important info to know. Thanks. I wish I didn't have to work today or i'd be picking it up right now.


~Veeps

 

[bagged89s10]

Whether the tilt gear is good or not, it will still be a nice little saw for 90 degree cuts and rips.



BTW, I have a spare fence (and a few other parts) for that model if you need it.

I think it does need a fence. Pm me with what you have. I'm picking it up in about 2 hours .
The owner said it had a miter gauge and dust guard.


~Veeps

 

[bubinga]

I had one of those, It was a very accurate little saw.
I was able to "sneak" a 9" blade on it, by the way.
The dept is not your normal 27", so standard wings won't fit without modification.
But you could probably build an extension wing out of hard wood, or laminated MDF.

 

[bagged89s10]

Here it is. Everything looks good on it.
Also has a dust shield not in the pictures.












~Veeps

 

[classicJackets]

Veeps, looks great! You said it, cant beat free. Any luck on any of the rest of his items?

 

[bagged89s10]

Veeps, looks great! You said it, cant beat free. Any luck on any of the rest of his items?

No all he had was a piano. Don't need another one of those. There was some kind of water pump attached to the stand of the saw, that looked like it was driven by this saw's motor. You can see the pulley on the left side of the motor. I will snap a pic when I get home.


~Veeps

 

[bagged89s10]

So I got home and noticed the motor was wired separately with a plug end. I plugged it in and it fired right up. Nice and smooth. I just need a better stand.



I'm assuming this dust guard attaches underneath. Am I right?

Does the motor just sit back here and the motor's weight allows the belt to be self tensioned? It just sits in that pin. Or am I missing a clip or something?




~Veeps

 

[bagged89s10]

Here is the water pump that was attached to the stand. Has anyone ever seen one of these?





~Veeps

 

[jakemac]

I don't have any pictures (or the right set-up to take pictures of), but the majority of the weight of the motor rests on a bracket shaped like a long C that's laying on it's back. That pin is just there for alignment of the motor as the blade is tilted. The pin slides the motor on it's mount so that the belt doesn't come out of alignment as it's twisted by the tilting blade arbor.

Most of the time that pin is missing or broken off.

The belt tension is created by the motor hanging out the back like a drunken party girl counter-balancing a catamaran off the Florida Keys.

(OK, so maybe I didn't describe it too clearly, but I had fun trying )

EDIT :
I see the motor mount in the last picture of the first post, so you should have everything you need to get going once you get a belt. You might want to clean up the sliding bar on the motor mount to make sure that the motor can move easily as the blade is tilted.

 

[bagged89s10]

I don't have any pictures (or the right set-up to take pictures of), but the majority of the weight of the motor rests on a bracket shaped like a long C that's laying on it's back. That pin is just there for alignment of the motor as the blade is tilted. The pin slides the motor on it's mount so that the belt doesn't come out of alignment as it's twisted by the tilting blade arbor.

Most of the time that pin is missing or broken off.

The belt tension is created by the motor hanging out the back like a drunken party girl counter-balancing a catamaran off the Florida Keys.

(OK, so maybe I didn't describe it too clearly, but I had fun trying )

EDIT :
I see the motor mount in the last picture of the first post, so you should have everything you need to get going once you get a belt. You might want to clean up the sliding bar on the motor mount to make sure that the motor can move easily as the blade is tilted.

Ok so from what you are saying I have everything intact. I am going to take the saw apart to clean it up and lib up the gears.
I will clean up the motor mount sliding bar too. Thanks.

I need to make an extension wing for this thing now. I can finish my wood projects faster now.

I'm pumped!


~Veeps

 

[thehorse13]

Here is the water pump that was attached to the stand. Has anyone ever seen one of these?





~Veeps

Yep. Brown and Sharpe makes high quality pumps of all sorts and have for a very long time. If that pump still works, throw it on Ebay and you'll make yourself some extra money to buy parts for your new table saw.

 

[bubinga]

the one l had, came with these 2 bars extending horizontally from the ft. and back of the table. Ant the stamped steel extension wing slid along the bars, and you locked it down where you wanted it.

 

[bagged89s10]

the one l had, came with these 2 bars extending horizontally from the ft. and back of the table. Ant the stamped steel extension wing slid along the bars, and you locked it down where you wanted it.

I was thinking about those. Fairly inexpensive and portable.


~Veeps

 

[rvieceli]

That's a good saw especially for free. Used to have one.

Here is a link to the manual:

http://vintagemachinery.org/pubs/detail.aspx?id=2831

Here is a link to one in all it's accessorized glory.

http://vintagemachinery.org/photoindex/detail.aspx?id=9046

I don't think that dust shroud you have goes to this saw. It looks like the guard and shroud for a radial arm saw.

 

[bagged89s10]

So I was looking for a stand for my free saw and came across an ad for an old table saw. The seller just emailed me some pictures.





Do I buy this for $50 or maybe even less and part out or sell the 8" model?




~Veeps

 

[bagged89s10]

Why not both?


That 10" saw is built much better, and has a much bigger table and universal blade size. With 3/4hp motor and stand it is a good deal!

Nice collection you have there. I'm going to see the 10" tomorrow. I will buy it unless it's broken.
Then sell the smaller one.


~Veeps

 

[bluebolt]

Here is the water pump that was attached to the stand. Has anyone ever seen one of these?





~Veeps

I think that might be intended to be a hydraulic pump, not a water pump. Here's the patent.

http://www.google.com/patents/US1976227

 

[bagged89s10]

I think that might be intended to be a hydraulic pump, not a water pump. Here's the patent.



http://www.google.com/patents/US1976227

Cool thanks for that info. I looked it up on eBay and yes they were listed as hydraulic pumps. I have to figure out if it works and try to sell it.


~Veeps

 

[bagged89s10]

So I picked up the craftsman 113.27520. Only paid $35. No fence or miter gauge. But the miter gauge from the other saw will work. It has the grooved fence rail. I removed it to prevent damage during transport. It has the stand with wheels that I wanted and runs nice. Needs a new belt and some cleaning up. Dropped it off at home and back to visit my last account for the day. Maybe I will start cleanup on it tonight. I decided to just keep the motor and miter gauge from the other one and part it out. I don't want to deal with people coming to my house to look at it. And probably too heavy to ship. I'll have to weigh it without the stand and motor.










~Veeps

 

[Red Leader]

Nice pickups!