bubinga
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yeah, there was one on CL about a year ago, cheap, like $70.00 IIRC, and like an idiot, I didn't buy it.
I think it was pretty cool.
Nice job on that wilton, and that blue one with the new screw.
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I think it was pretty cool.
Nice job on that wilton, and that blue one with the new screw.
Outlawmws
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So I see this Ad line:
" Rotating 6 inch, 3 Jaw Vise"
And I'm sure many here know what I'm thinking it is...
Not...
We called these people CT's when I was in High school...
But I don't think this one had a clue... some CL posters Know what they are doing when they post misleading ads, I doubt this one did...
" Rotating 6 inch, 3 Jaw Vise"
And I'm sure many here know what I'm thinking it is...
Not...
We called these people CT's when I was in High school...
But I don't think this one had a clue... some CL posters Know what they are doing when they post misleading ads, I doubt this one did...
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topop101
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Here ya go... It's 3 months older than my oldest that I have on hand right now not counting the pat. pend. group but who knows about them...No fish hooks was the first thing I noticed but still acorn nUts
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I wish that grenade would have went off when you opened the toolbox. 
To be honest I wasn't very interested in it. I would have been all over it yesterday if I wanted it. It was way too far away for me to justify but I am glad someone got it that knows what it is!
BTW how much did he have to pay you to take all of that junk?
Oh, I forgot...he emailed me saying what month and year it was made. At that point I figured you had drove up and snagged it.
To be honest I wasn't very interested in it. I would have been all over it yesterday if I wanted it. It was way too far away for me to justify but I am glad someone got it that knows what it is!
BTW how much did he have to pay you to take all of that junk?
Oh, I forgot...he emailed me saying what month and year it was made. At that point I figured you had drove up and snagged it.
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McBrownie
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Nicer than the day it was made. Great job!
topop101
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I wish that grenade would have went off when you opened the toolbox.
To be honest I wasn't very interested in it. I would have been all over it yesterday if I wanted it. It was way too far away for me to justify but I am glad someone got it that knows what it is!
BTW how much did he have to pay you to take all of that junk?
Oh, I forgot...he emailed me saying what month and year it was made. At that point I figured you had drove up and snagged it.
I started emailing her last weekend. She went through brad To communicate because she is Russian. After a min or two with Brad he gave me her number and I spoke with her direct on Wednesday.
Having dealt with strong minded European women before I brought my secret weapon with me....My 7 year old Grandson. I had a 2 and a 1/2 hour drive to clue him in on how to charm her... and charm her he did. Bought the entire bench with vise and grinder for 50 and the tool box for another twenty.
I sold a 3 " two months ago for 185 that was in worse shape. Well worth the trip and spent a day with my grandson teaching him the ropes of pickin tools.
I had a sell set up on the same trip but the guy was called into work and couldn't make it so it was all peaches.
No hard feelings ok "Nathan" is it?
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MoparTrucks
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I need some advice guys. I bought this old Rock Island 92 down in Arkansas a year or so ago for dirt cheap (don't remember exactly but I think it was $20) and it was just a lump of rust and it would only open a few inches then bog down.
I cleaned out the decades of old grease and dirt (it was used in a RR yard and I swear it must have been from the age of steam because it was packed with what looked like coal cinders), took it all apart and did the wire brush - Evaporust treatment, then hit it with rust converter and lubed it up and it is smooth, works great and its going into one of my shops. So....
The handle is bent to an extreme degree and I have been unable to get one of the rounded ends to unscrew (I am assuming they do) so I can get it off. I thought about using a press to straiten it but the angle is too close to the end of the screw (I think). Would it be sacrilege to just cut the think off and replace it with a new one?
Next, it has a nice patina with just the rust converter but I know I need to protect it more so what do you guys suggest? I don't even have a clue what color it may have originally been as it was completely rust caked with no paint remnants.
Finally, The jaws actually still have some cross hatching on them but as you can see there are spots with a gap when they are closed. My inclination would be to leave it because it should be fine for my mechanical shop (vehicle, tractor, implement etc repair) but any advice would be appreciated.
Its been used and abused but the thing is heavy and now that its cleaned up and properly lubed it is smooth and dying for a friend (thanks a lot GJ).
I cleaned out the decades of old grease and dirt (it was used in a RR yard and I swear it must have been from the age of steam because it was packed with what looked like coal cinders), took it all apart and did the wire brush - Evaporust treatment, then hit it with rust converter and lubed it up and it is smooth, works great and its going into one of my shops. So....
The handle is bent to an extreme degree and I have been unable to get one of the rounded ends to unscrew (I am assuming they do) so I can get it off. I thought about using a press to straiten it but the angle is too close to the end of the screw (I think). Would it be sacrilege to just cut the think off and replace it with a new one?
Next, it has a nice patina with just the rust converter but I know I need to protect it more so what do you guys suggest? I don't even have a clue what color it may have originally been as it was completely rust caked with no paint remnants.
Finally, The jaws actually still have some cross hatching on them but as you can see there are spots with a gap when they are closed. My inclination would be to leave it because it should be fine for my mechanical shop (vehicle, tractor, implement etc repair) but any advice would be appreciated.
Its been used and abused but the thing is heavy and now that its cleaned up and properly lubed it is smooth and dying for a friend (thanks a lot GJ).
bagged89s10
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hey all,
been a long time since I've been in the vise thread but I finally got my 1941/42 Wilton bullet back together today and grabbed some photos.
The jaws are complements of KMScott's handy work. Stainless acorn nuts and machine screws from local hardware.
Nice work! You'd never know it was that bad to start.
Outlawmws
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For that Rock Island; Set it up in the press and use the ball as the pressure point til you can get the bar to slide past. Once you have that you can easily deal with the rest.
MoparTrucks
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I was worried I would break the ball (that bar is at about a 60 degree angle) but I might give it a go slowly.
Its come this far in its life and I would hate to be the one that buggered it up.
McBrownie
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Great old vise and a nice job saving it. I would vote for:
- Boiled Linseed Oil as the finish to protect that great patina.
- Giving the hydraulic press a go. Take your time and it should be fine.
- Leaving the jaws alone. Maybe get a set of copper jaw pads.
- Putting that vise back to work. That is what it was made for!
topop101
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I need some advice guys. I bought this old Rock Island 92 down in Arkansas a year or so ago for dirt cheap (don't remember exactly but I think it was $20) and it was just a lump of rust and it would only open a few inches then bog down.
I cleaned out the decades of old grease and dirt (it was used in a RR yard and I swear it must have been from the age of steam because it was packed with what looked like coal cinders), took it all apart and did the wire brush - Evaporust treatment, then hit it with rust converter and lubed it up and it is smooth, works great and its going into one of my shops. So....
The handle is bent to an extreme degree and I have been unable to get one of the rounded ends to unscrew (I am assuming they do) so I can get it off. I thought about using a press to straiten it but the angle is too close to the end of the screw (I think). Would it be sacrilege to just cut the think off and replace it with a new one?
Next, it has a nice patina with just the rust converter but I know I need to protect it more so what do you guys suggest? I don't even have a clue what color it may have originally been as it was completely rust caked with no paint remnants.
Finally, The jaws actually still have some cross hatching on them but as you can see there are spots with a gap when they are closed. My inclination would be to leave it because it should be fine for my mechanical shop (vehicle, tractor, implement etc repair) but any advice would be appreciated.
Its been used and abused but the thing is heavy and now that its cleaned up and properly lubed it is smooth and dying for a friend (thanks a lot GJ).
I've had to deal with a similar handle before. If you heat up the ball only they usually knock off . Straighten the rod and reinstall the same way.... with heat. Pretty easy
MoparTrucks
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Thanks, I knew this was the place to look for advice and it sounds like I'll have to give the press a try. I never would have thought of boiled linseed oil, I mean I use that on axe handles and the like.
It will also definitely be put to work.
MoparTrucks
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Thanks, I used Kroil, PB Blaster and a propane torch and so far no luck but I may keep trying. Do you know if they both would screw off or just one side? It looks like both ball ends are separate from the bar.
topop101
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They are not screwed on.. They are pressed on. I put one end in a vise . Heat the other then I use a ball joint fork to knock it off. Or you could also drive the rod out from the top using a punch. buff up the end to identify the two separate pieces. heat in one spot only
No hard feelings under one condition...you don't flip it. You have to save it for your grandson so he has a great object to remind him of your day's adventure after you are long gone. After all it sounds like he did all of the work!
If I hear of you flipping it you will spend the rest of your days being baited on Craigslist...
topop101
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No hard feelings under one condition...you don't flip it. You have to save it for your grandson so he has a great object to remind him of your day's adventure after you are long gone. After all it sounds like he did all of the work!
I can for sure do that. I was leaving him my 222 lb. Athol but he may need a lil' one too. Besides, I just sold the grenade for 250.00 on fb...
And it wouldn't be the first time I've been baited...lol This wasn't my first sneak attack
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here's the one I have....
topop101
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here's the one I have....
Hey nice clean lil'machine.
Beautiful work. You still need to add it to the "Date Stamp" thread, and clarify its age.
MoparTrucks
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Well that would explain a few things.
I will give that a try, thanks.http://www.gumtree.com/p/for-sale/engineering-vice/1112469328
Parkinsons no#1 south yorkshire. Nice condition.
Parkinsons no#1 south yorkshire. Nice condition.
CwazyWabbit
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CwazyWabbit
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That's good info on the woden dating, the 00 vices are kinda nice, all the features of a full size vice including a replaceable nut. I've only got one woden vice at the moment .... I've got quite an eclectic collection that'll get slimmed later this year so I'll leave the woden collecting to you guys
Damn it, went out to a Land Rover auto jumble and bought a Woden 00 for a fiver .... :-/ I'm rubbish at this not buying malarkey
Also picked up the Record No.633 off my mate while I was there.
Outlawmws
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CwazyWabbit
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Just ship it (the 00) to me. You will feel better immediately, I promise!
I'll send you a picture to start with
(sorry for quality but it's a bit dark for a decent phone pic)
Outlawmws
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I'll send you a picture to start with
Fixed it for you (me)!
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Think someones bolted jaws into it, missed them.
CwazyWabbit
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It looks like it has jaws bolted onto the jaws. ....
bagged89s10
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No new vises for me but I just picked up this extra battery charger my father had so I can build an electrolysis tank. But now I just realized it says fully automatic. I did a Google search and only found an old ad from 1977.
topop101
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My grandson and I cleaned up and painted this lil' 51 BULL DOG. I let him pick the paint... Not a bad eye for 7. A couple more and he might be hooked.
When I bought this vise it didn't have a handle. A few weeks ago I got an American scale boat anchor as a throw in so I put the handle in this Prentiss. It's a lil long but kinda cool I think
When I bought this vise it didn't have a handle. A few weeks ago I got an American scale boat anchor as a throw in so I put the handle in this Prentiss. It's a lil long but kinda cool I think
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Fretters
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If it's more than a few years old, it'll be a standard type charger. Does it have a proper transformer in it, (heavy), or it it quite light? If the former, it should be fine. Automatic and intelligent, (an oxymoron if ever there was one), chargers are different things.
Fretters
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Just for you DIF, so that you don't think I'm losing my taste in colour. Little York 80.
In two minds as to whether to bother sorting and refitting the swivel. The swivel plate is cracked, and this vice seems to have been another Friday afternoon special in general, so the mating surfaces would need smoothing out quite a bit. I'm more inclined to have this one as a static. Never actually used a swivel anyhow, so it's not something I'll ever need or miss. This is the cracked plate.
If I do repair that, I'd be going with a plate and screws rather than brazing, hence why it's already painted.
Little York 80.
In two minds as to whether to bother sorting and refitting the swivel. The swivel plate is cracked, and this vice seems to have been another Friday afternoon special in general, so the mating surfaces would need smoothing out quite a bit. I'm more inclined to have this one as a static. Never actually used a swivel anyhow, so it's not something I'll ever need or miss.
This is the cracked plate.
If I do repair that, I'd be going with a plate and screws rather than brazing, hence why it's already painted.
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bagged89s10
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Yeah it's pretty heavy and it's from the 70s. I'm going to throw one of my parkers in a 5 gallon bucket etank tonight to see if it will work.
Here is the vise.
454ragtop
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No new vises for me but I just picked up this extra battery charger my father had so I can build an electrolysis tank. But now I just realized it says fully automatic. I did a Google search and only found an old ad from 1977.
If that charger doesn't work by itself, add a car battery and hook the charger to it. I find the E-tank seems to work better with a battery anyway.
Jim
Since the doc says I can't do much where the coal dust flies for awhile....I decided to sit in front of a 5 gallon pail of Simple Green and about four different grits of wet/dry sandpaper and scrub another old vise I've had kicked in the corner. This has always been a sweetie and I decided dress it up for church today. This is an Athol 612-1/2.
Not as good at doing this refab as some of you fellas ( you guys are unbelievable!) but, it sure is a fun pastime.
This is an Athol 612-1/2. Not as good at doing this refab as some of you fellas ( you guys are unbelievable!
) but, it sure is a fun pastime.
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bagged89s10
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Since the doc says I can't do much where the coal dust flies for awhile....I decided to sit in front of a 5 gallon pail of Simple Green and about four different grits of wet/dry sandpaper and scrub another old vise I've had kicked in the corner. This has always been a sweetie and I decided dress it up for church today.
Not as good at doing this refab as some of you fellas ( you guys are unbelievable!
Came out nice!
Craptain
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Not as good at doing this refab as some of you fellas ( you guys are unbelievable!
Says the man who makes Artisan knives. That vise looks pretty good to me.
Not sure how that charger will do for you as it doesn't appear to have a manual mode. It might not sense the electrolysis tank as a battery to turn on.
You really should look for one with a manual switch on it. I picked up this one over the weekend for $8 at a local garage sale. Weighs about 10 lbs.
