gravelydude
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What size is the floor tile?
Jack
Jack
Kitchen outlet amps? 15 or 20?
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BTW, why in the hell did you hire someone to work on your house???? That's not the Garage Journal way!!!! As you have found out, you can screw it up yourself for much cheaper than what it costs to pay someone else to screw it up!!!!!!
K?
If you find the grout starts to crack, then you can brace the floor from underneath and thus don't need to remove floor.
With the extra weight you added, expect some foundation settling and possible cracks here and there as the earth under the house gets used to the new weight. Hardibacker specs where their products can be used. If they used the product over a floor not meeting that spec, then keep your $4000.00 grand.
Your experience with contractors sounds about on par with mine.
Keep your 4 grand for the time being until you have some time to digest what's going on. Even if they "fixed" the grout issue, stuff can still get broken or messed up while they are fixing it.
Distance yourself from your inner OCD for the time being and just live with what's been for a few weeks and keep a cool head about it.
At the same time don't be afraid to withhold that $4000.00 but make sure you're solid on the reasons why and that the contractor also knows and understands exactly why.
Speedy Petey
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Mine in red:
Electrical code for something like 20+ years or so (in the USA) has required two separate 20 amp kitchen counter circuits. The outlets can be 'standard' 15 amp outlets though.
That is the Code-required minimum.
Nothing else running off those two circuits either. No lighting, not running the refrigerator or the dishwasher, etc.
- Um, not quite. Code minimum would allow ALL the counter and general receptacles in the kitchen, DR, pantry, nook, etc, and including the refrigerator, on the two SABCs.
A DW, disp or OTR micro are fixed in place and have different rules.
Don't forget the GFCI requirements either.
The reasoning behind it is so that running two or more kitchen appliances doesn't cause an instant-trip of the one overloaded breaker feeding everything in the kitchen.
Toaster + coffee maker on same 15 amp circuit at the same time would usually be an instant-trip of the breaker.
- Again, not quite. A 1000 watt toaster and a 900-1100 watt coffee maker would be FINE on a 20A circuit capable of handling 2400 watts. This occurs in my own home quite regularly. Of course this is not to say it is optimal. Also, from my perspective, there is typcially no way to tell what someone will be putting their small appliances.
Toaster on one 20 amp circuit + coffee maker on another 20 amp circuit means both are working. So you can have your toast and morning coffee both being made in the morning at the same time.
ard
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OP-
You need PICTURES and DOCUMENTATION. If you hired people to fix stuff, you needed to document in detail what they found, why it was a problem (violates codes or standards) and what they did to fix. There is no such thing as too much detail. You can write it up, ask them to sign it when you pay them.
All an atty does is (1) charge you a lot, then (2) start collecting documentation and builds a case. If you've built your own case it will be clear to the GC he has a major issue. Not jsut a guy that spent $500 to have an atty write a letter, but a tenacious basterd who knows the codes and has pictures and documentation of how they failed to perform.
I know there is a desire "to just be done"...but you have to balance that against 'is this work going to give us long term problems?" Sometimes better to stop and fix now
You need PICTURES and DOCUMENTATION. If you hired people to fix stuff, you needed to document in detail what they found, why it was a problem (violates codes or standards) and what they did to fix. There is no such thing as too much detail. You can write it up, ask them to sign it when you pay them.
All an atty does is (1) charge you a lot, then (2) start collecting documentation and builds a case. If you've built your own case it will be clear to the GC he has a major issue. Not jsut a guy that spent $500 to have an atty write a letter, but a tenacious basterd who knows the codes and has pictures and documentation of how they failed to perform.
I know there is a desire "to just be done"...but you have to balance that against 'is this work going to give us long term problems?" Sometimes better to stop and fix now
wyliesdiesels
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Good luck OP!
I use to work for a tile contractor. If the subfloor isnt done right youre gonna start to have cracking tiles!
If the kitchen place hired subcontractors then the sub contractos sloppy work is their problem. But u shpuld withhold final payment put in an escrow account as someone said. Make sure to document everything including pcis!
I use to work for a tile contractor. If the subfloor isnt done right youre gonna start to have cracking tiles!
If the kitchen place hired subcontractors then the sub contractos sloppy work is their problem. But u shpuld withhold final payment put in an escrow account as someone said. Make sure to document everything including pcis!