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vintage nut

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As a proud owner of a much older morgan 160, I can say they are definitely a good vise! Just not 600 bucks nice... At least not one that doesn't look like new.

you can never have too many tools
 

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Jeremy: did you sleep ok or are you still seeing Reed C series vises while you are awake. i'm worried you might have the "VICE FOR VISES" disease. after work tonight turn your Holland's vise two turns to the left and if it doesn't have the quick release action to just pull out then just turn it two turns to the right and have a beer.

then find yourself a quick release old English made vise and you'll be cured.

in case some of you haven't seen Jeremy's Hodgepodge garage thread in the garage gallery here is his Holland's vise sitting on a pretty nice bench he made on some metal cabinets he found on Craigslist.

Outlaw: has that list grown much this last year or did you finally run out of drawers and spots to put all those clamps? nice list and i bet you use some of them too. did you start or is there a Clamps thread where CW and i and others can post up a few?

McB: made a little revision to my Reed 404.5 over on the vise repair 101 thread while he was waiting around to help with another vise repair. i think Jeremy might be seeing Reed C series vises like this in his sleep.
 

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The Reed 1C is quite a impressive vise, everything machined including the nut. I might have to make that one my working vise. The jaws are solid and in very good condition. I wish they were not solid and in good condition since I need smooth jaws. I see why Carla made her working vise a Reed and she also likes smooth jaws. Hate leaving idiot marks in my work.

Reeds are my favorite user vises, my 206 is my main vise and my 1C is awaiting it's spot on my welding bench build. I also have a 4" Reed-Craftsman and a 203 missing it's swivel base that will probably get mounted on a stand.
 

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is it a 6" or 7"? Yep

Is it swivel jaw or fix? Yep

Does it have any welds or cracks, or is it clean? yep

Are the jaws smooth or serrated? yep




:eyecrazy:





Haha. I saw that, "flexible on details." It's like, are you selling a 56 ford or a 56 Chevy? Yup



:headscrat

:wtf:
 
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What's the story behind the American one? Sounds like that's done a fair bit of travelling.

Never knew that. Was it some type of family dispute which led to the two companies, or just some business progression?

The American one is this old Fulton, I think I have posted the pic before, could not find out much about it (and what I did find is in this thread) but its real old.
View media item 50408Shown with my Morgan that I got the same week.

It was 2 sons that started Record but one went back shortly afterwards, both companies made other stuff and which was the first to make vices I do not know.
 
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Just finished up another typical Versa Vise. Somebody pinned a numbered badge on the side of this one. I don't know the history of the vise, maybe it was used in a school. I thought about removing it and filling the holes, nobody would ever know, but I thought it offered something unique and decided to leave it.

I wish I had a van full of these. Of all the vises I refinish these are my favorite to do. I say that mostly because the before to after is a striking transformation.

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Balane: that badge is cool and i agree to keep it. not all of them have a screw under the front under the jaw do they? very nice as usual and i'm beginning to thing you have elves in your garage not only helping you dry the paint, but making up all these Versa vises you seem to find.
 

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Balane: that badge is cool and i agree to keep it. not all of them have a screw under the front under the jaw do they? very nice as usual and i'm beginning to thing you have elves in your garage not only helping you dry the paint, but making up all these Versa vises you seem to find.

Thanks.

Every Versa or Gyro Vise (Identical products.) I've ever seen has that lever and set screw on the bottom. It's what secures the vise's body to the mounting shaft tightly when you snug up your work. It keeps the vise from swiveling automatically when the jaws are snug. I wouldn't want to use a Versa Vise without one. :)
 

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Balane: maybe it's because yours was so shiny i never noticed it before. those are cool vises and best of luck keeping all those elves fed so that they keep making you more of them.
 

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Nice job (Again!) Balane!



Outlaw: has that list grown much this last year or did you finally run out of drawers and spots to put all those clamps? nice list and i bet you use some of them too. did you start or is there a Clamps thread where CW and i and others can post up a few?

It's growing, but not by leaps and bounds. I'm too cheap to buy every clamp I see, and since I have plenty, it's not a problem. They still surface at a buck or so each. If it's something unusual I might go a bit higher...

I'm sure there is a thread, but I don't have it bookmarked. Maybe someone else does? :dunno:
 

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DIF: Here's a clamp teaser for you, all 12" capacity. The two on the left are drop forged, the red one is the oldest.

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The left two a are Record 121-12 (weight 13lb), right two are Carver 257-12 (6000lb holding capacity, 22.5lb weight).

The movable jaw on the orange ones can be turned around to give you 6000lb of spreading force instead of clamping
 
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Heres some Wiltons I have..a six inch, a 4 inch and 2 inch baby bullet on a powerarm
Is this the biggest vise Wilton made? What do these go for nowadays?
 

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drivesitfar

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Niblet: for only having 3 vises and being a new member you have a very nice group there and i like that little steel table. you can always post more pictures of your vises and thanks for posting those. welcome to the group and do you have other vises ?

CW: i'll check to see if there is a clamp thread and if not i'll start one named Clamps 101 show yours or something like that. here's the 40 pound one i mentioned.
 

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Heres some Wiltons I have..a six inch, a 4 inch and 2 inch baby bullet on a powerarm
Is this the biggest vise Wilton made? What do these go for nowadays?

Hi Niblet, welcome to the forum. Like Drives said you have some nice vises there. The biggest Wilton made (to my knowledge) is the 800S which is an 8" swiveler and weighs around 240#. But youe 6" there is nothing to bat an eye at :pimpflash
 

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The American one is this old Fulton, I think I have posted the pic before, could not find out much about it (and what I did find is in this thread) but its real old.
View media item 50408Shown with my Morgan that I got the same week.

Those are nice. :)


It was 2 sons that started Record but one went back shortly afterwards, both companies made other stuff and which was the first to make vices I do not know.

Cheers. :)
 

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My latest 2 refurb projects.
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Just finish up another versa vise. This pre 55 model was original black and green so I kept the colors but the customer wanted a bit more pop so I put a lil shine on it. Not too over the "TOP" though.:pimpflash
 

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Topop, you and balane got these guys figured out. Nice Job. I admire your handle and meat ball end most of all.

Coming from you Rev. Scott That means a lot. This is the first versa vise I polished. I don't know what kind of metal they used but it took about a minute on the wheel and glass appeared. I like the pear shaped early models better then the bull nose style. But that's the same with mostly all my vise's
 

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DIF: Here's a clamp teaser for you, all 12" capacity. The two on the left are drop forged, the red one is the oldest.

2015-06-02 21.03.24.jpg

The left two a are Record 121-12 (weight 13lb), right two are Carver 257-12 (6000lb holding capacity, 22.5lb weight).

The movable jaw on the orange ones can be turned around to give you 6000lb of spreading force instead of clamping

Nice lil clamps.... here's a 8 TON bridge clamp of mine...As you can see it's as thick as a 2X4 and yeah.... It's a stuD!:D
 

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Check out this awesome Denver, Colorado area Craigslist ad:

"Heavy duty vise you can crank down whatever you want or crush your beer cans. I dont drink beer so no use for me $75"

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Dutch: i think you might have mentioned it before, but how do you like the old US vises quality compared to those that were English made? nice looking pair BTW that you just posted.

TOP: I haven't seen one of these Versa Vises in person and if i didn't own a baby bullet with a power arm and clamp I'd be on the non stop search to find one. i have watched the video. also nice clamp and is that just wire brushed and BLO because i have several almost identical to that clamp and talk about well built.

versa vise video

Hounddog: nice looking vise and i think you might have captured the ARREST ME RED that Oldie has been wanting to paint his 519x Craftsman when it finds a home on his bench. nice work.

ALL: i started a clamp 101 thread in the vintage tool section for those of you that might have a few to post. also showing them in use and maybe telling history of the companies that made them might be fun and we'll see where it goes. here's the link

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=293054
 
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Dutch: i think you might have mentioned it before, but how do you like the old US vises quality compared to those that were English made? nice looking pair BTW that you just posted.

TOP: I haven't seen one of these Versa Vises in person and if i didn't own a baby bullet with a power arm and clamp I'd be on the non stop search to find one. i have watched the video. also nice clamp and is that just wire brushed and BLO because i have several almost identical to that clamp and talk about well built.

versa vise video

Hounddog: nice looking vise and i think you might have captured the ARREST ME RED that Oldie has been wanting to paint his 519x Craftsman when it finds a home on his bench. nice work.

ALL: i started a clamp 101 thread in the vintage tool section for those of you that might have a few to post. also showing them in use and maybe telling history of the companies that made them might be fun and we'll see where it goes. here's the link

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=293054

DRIVES Yeah I wire wheeled the clamp and A light coat of BLO. lol I had a guy tell me That I shouldn't use BLO on metal.... I just chuckled... Farmers have been using it on iron since it forever. It was also use in the mummification process by the Egyptians ... I don't think it's gona hurt a Vise or clamp.
 

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Question for the English vice gurus (paging Wabbit!):

Is there a fundamental difference between the regular mechanic's style Record, such as the No. 4 shown below, and the 34P? Is the 34P steel vs. cast or something...?

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