The VISES of Garage Journal

[joe.striper]

Originally posted by Drivesitfar.

VA: i bet you feel better now. yes??
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Yea Drive, that does make me feel a little better.---Let's me know that even a Chinese, black market, knock-off has some value.

Oh Drive, looking at your Norman Rockwell pic, Looks like Mr. Rockwell was a Reed man.


Joe.sriper---I was in on the E-bay 439 this morning up to $185.00.---Knew that wasn't going to buy it, but every once in a while you can catch everybody sleeping.---I've noticed people don't sleep as much as they did 2 years ago.

I was on it up to 150. I was the first bidder, for days, vise is 50 miles from me. That is the 5th 439 ive seen come out of there. By the way, I'm hoping to ship your American Scale Monday. ! Seevao you will get a vise after all.

 

[va.grouseman]

Sounds good Joe.

 

[Niblet]

Sold this afternoon on that well known internet auction site for $1885 plus freight
Brand new 800S

Is this a chinese knock off? or a real Wilton?
when did Wilton start making the 8 inch vises?

 

[balane]

Is this a chinese knock off? or a real Wilton?
when did Wilton start making the 8 inch vises?

Wilton has made two USA 8" vises for some time. The 1780 Tradesman and the 800S Machinist.

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[drivesitfar]

Mix: i second that and would like to see your chrome painted baby pose for a few pictures and on that stand when you have it ready. nice work

Niblet: We don't know exactly when they started making the 8 inch Wiltons unless Balane or AutoPts has a catalog page because as of yet we haven't found any with a date stamp on them. i'm guessing by some of the early styles that maybe late 50's or early 60's is when the 8's came out. the guy stamping the vises said he wanted a pay raise for taking apart, stamping the date on the slide of an 8 incher, then putting it back together because it ain't no easy thing.

in fact when you take your new fairly old 6 inch Wilton apart might i suggest you take the horseshoe off first so the screw comes out without the dynamic jaw. then when putting the vise back together put the screw in last might save your arms and be a bit easier.

ALL: i had the Clamps 101 thread moved to the general tool section because the age of the clamps are not what is important. the way we use them is and would love to see all your clamps either how you use them or if you don't have those pictures then how you store them would be great. there is already a quick release clamp on that thread that is from the 1800's that a member owns and i would love to find a few of those.

 

[bluebolt]

Mix:
Niblet: We don't know exactly when they started making the 8 inch Wiltons unless Balane or AutoPts has a catalog page because as of yet we haven't found any with a date stamp on them. i'm guessing by some of the early styles that maybe late 50's or early 60's is when the 8's came out. the guy stamping the vises said he wanted a pay raise for taking apart, stamping the date on the slide of an 8 incher, then putting it back together because it ain't no easy thing.

I think Autopts posted it up a while back that the 800 was introduced n the early 1950's, 1953 maybe? I am of the opinion the Wilton 800's without a city were made in Chicago and the city name was not put on because the move to Schiller Park was already in the works.


PS for the guys who posted their Wilton dates thanks I have updated the Wilton database.

 

[KMScott]

I think Autopts posted it up a while back that the 800 was introduced n the early 1950's, 1953 maybe? I am of the opinion the Wilton 800's without a city were made in Chicago and the city name was not put on because the move to Schiller Park was already in the works.


PS for the guys who posted their Wilton dates thanks I have updated the Wilton database.

Thank You Blue for all your work, we sure appreciate it.

 

[MixManSC]

Well - I'm really not sure if I'm digging it.... Its definitely different. The JIMCO work positioner is an indigo blue which I think looks nice. That thing had some serious machining done to flatten out some of it surfaces while the raw castings are still very rough. Interesting device, incredibly precise and sturdy. On the bullet, not sure if I'm digging the chrome or the red lettering. Going to give it a bit and see if it grows on me. If not, only takes a few minutes to strip it down so no biggie. I think if the castings were glassy smooth and a real chrome plating were done that it would look wicked though. I also collect antique electric fans (more heavy cast iron that is as useful as it is beautiful) and a few had special full chrome plated ones done for hospitals and whatnot and they do look slick. Go here and poke around if you want another new addiction... http://www.afcaforum.com/forum1/

I probably have around 60 or so antique fans ranging from wood floor fans to all brass fans from the late 1800's. The nice thing is more often than not, the good old cast iron ones run just as good today as they did 75+ years ago and with a little care will run just as good for another 75+ years.

 

[rmalkow2]

The chrome paint, red letting and blue base look awesome.

 

[topop101]

So I was asked by a friend to do a special project for him. This was his late grandfathers vise. He wanted it done in his memory in John Deere colors. Then he's giving it to his father on fathers day. This is why I enjoy what I do... Now I may have to do one for me

 

[jakemac]

You need to finish it off with yellow letters to break up all that green a bit.

 

[topop101]

You need to finish it off with yellow letters.

Wish I could, just not born with that skill set.

 

[rmalkow2]

Wish I could, just not born with that skill set.

Find a friend or art student with steady hands?

Looks great by the way. What a great Father's Day present.

 

[trijeff]

My first swiveling swiveler, a Reed 404. A little surprised at how much smaller in size it is compared to my Reed 104.5 R, but still digging the functionality and looking forward to tarting this one up (as our English GJ blokes would say).

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[Shiftless]

TJ: Nice one! We're all looking forward to seeing what you have in store for "tarting it up"
BTW, what is your favorite technique for straightening those beefy half inch diameter or so handles? I have a couple of vises with similarly slightly bent handles. 20 ton press or ???

 

[trijeff]

Thanks, Shift! The tarting will have to wait on this one, there's quite a few in line in front of it. As for the handles, I use heat (i.e., torch) and a BFH ... would use a press if I had one, and I might have to find somebody with ome for the Prentiss 98 handle as the heat/hammer didn't work there (1.125" diameter!)

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[Shiftless]

Here is the follow up story about that rare Fisher-Norris chain vise listed on
C/L in New Hampshire I was talking about a week ago...From a dumpster to a museum!

It all started with the flu.
Being stuck inside on the sofa, for some reason I started browsing Craigslist in New England states to see how different the market was. I stumbled upon a vise in New Hampshire that I had not only never seen before but couldn't even imagine how it worked. So of course I posted it here on GJ! (May 30th) page 1557 if you're curious
A few hours later joe.striper posted a reply that it looked like a Fisher-Norris chain vise but it was missing some parts. Super rare and quite valuable. I did some google searching and found a photo of an almost identical model that was complete and sent it to the sellers. They were thrilled to find out what it was. The woman's husband, doing some scrap hauling work, had pulled it out of a dumpster load of scrap metal destined for a fiery death since "he thought it looked old." I got back to Joe questioning how to proceed.
Joe called the Fisher-Norris museum who promised to accept the vise even though it was missing parts and was certainly not operational. Then he called the sellers, arranged payment and got a promise to hold the vise until he could pick it up. He's in Massachusetts so that's a LOT closer than CA.
So from a dumpster to a museum!
May I humbly say that I am proud to have been the starting point for this little piece of good news for the vintage vise community. Makes me feel all warm and fuzzy!
A BIG thanks to Joe.striper for picking up the ball and making this happen; he's doing all the work!

 

[Shiftless]

Thanks, Shift! The tarting will have to wait on this one, there's quite a few in line in front of it. As for the handles, I use heat (i.e., torch) and a BFH ... would use a press if I had one, and I might have to find somebody with ome for the Prentiss 98 handle as the heat/hammer didn't work there (1.125" diameter!)

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Does the hardness of the metal in the handle suffer with the heat? Maybe our handles aren't too hard anyway, right? I wouldn't want the handle to bend more easily after being straightened!

 

[Shiftless]

Thanks, Shift! The tarting will have to wait on this one, there's quite a few in line in front of it. As for the handles, I use heat (i.e., torch) and a BFH ... would use a press if I had one, and I might have to find somebody with ome for the Prentiss 98 handle as the heat/hammer didn't work there (1.125" diameter!)

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Your inch and an eighth diameter Prentiss 98 cranker qualifies it too as a BFH...BF Handle

 

[Outlawmws]

Your best bet is a press.

 

[Mark in Indiana]

So I was asked by a friend to do a special project for him. This was his late grandfathers vise. He wanted it done in his memory in John Deere colors. Then he's giving it to his father on fathers day. This is why I enjoy what I do... Now I may have to do one for me

Very honorable job.

 

[zkling]

So I was asked by a friend to do a special project for him. This was his late grandfathers vise. He wanted it done in his memory in John Deere colors. Then he's giving it to his father on fathers day. This is why I enjoy what I do... Now I may have to do one for me

For an exposed screw vise, those are nice units. Good job on the restoration.

You need to finish it off with yellow letters to break up all that green a bit.

It's not that difficult with the rolled up paper towel blotting method.

 

[Lobo74]

That's nice

 

[topop101]

Here's vise number 2 of a package of 3 Reeds I'm putting together. The first was the Reed 204 1/2 . This one is the Reed 71 pipe vise dated 1914. The last one is the 104 1/2 with any luck it will be finished this week

 

[autopts]

So I was asked by a friend to do a special project for him. This was his late grandfathers vise. He wanted it done in his memory in John Deere colors. Then he's giving it to his father on fathers day. This is why I enjoy what I do... Now I may have to do one for me

Great looking, and a nice gesture on your part!! Oh. also you could make custom liners and use those existing holes on the sides of that very nice Reed you have.

 

[topop101]

Great looking, and a nice gesture on your part!! Oh. also you could make custom liners and use those existing holes on the sides of that very nice Reed you have.

Auto Yes that's what was on it when I bought it. Sheet copper. It was too hammered to reinstall. But the holes are there and serviceable. 1/4-20.

 

[bagged89s10]

Just finished he Heinrich 6-SV. Went with a simple rustoleum hammered gray. It's not perfect as there were quite a few drill holes/marks, but I think it came out pretty good. Also on the plus side, there were 2 Heinrich tags put on by accident from the factory. I guess I have a spare for a future restore.

 

[bagged89s10]

Wish I could, just not born with that skill set.

Just get a yellow sharpie paint marker.

 

[trijeff]

Here is the follow up story about that rare Fisher-Norris chain vise listed on
C/L in New Hampshire I was talking about a week ago...From a dumpster to a museum!
...

Shift: good work on both your and Joe's behalf helping to save our vise history for future generations!

 

[Fretters]

My first swiveling swiveler, a Reed 404. A little surprised at how much smaller in size it is compared to my Reed 104.5 R, but still digging the functionality and looking forward to tarting this one up (as our English GJ blokes would say).

Top man. It's quite pleasant to see language corruption working the opposite way around occasionally.

 

[TreePointer]

Wish I could, just not born with that skill set.

I like this method:

http://www.shanewhitlock.com/blog/?p=272

 

[Niblet]

what is this scout?

After my dad passed i found this in his garage,,,what is it? is it a decent vise?

 

[oldldh]

Re: what is this scout?

After my dad passed i found this in his garage,,,what is it? is it a decent vise?

Absolutely...

It was your Father's...

That makes it the best there is...

It is...

As Tigger used to say..."And, I'm The Only One!!!"

Decent little shop vise, anyway...It's a Wilton Scout...

It's ownership history is just gravy...

 

[Niblet]

Thanks! Another Wilton? That means I now have 5 Wiltons!!
Geeze what am I going to do with them??

 

[Nuts]

Annother bizarre clamper from Old Blighty...

I named it "Don't Have a Clue..."

I think that covers it...

I'm not sure what that thing is either, but it's the right handed model.


Nuts

 

[va.grouseman]

Did anyone happen to see the little Piramiit Bullet on E-bay a few days ago?---Similar to the Wilton 202 and commanded about the same price.---First one I've seen, but looked pretty well made.---I bid $123.00, thought that would be plenty high.---I wouldn't even have bought the jaws on it.---$363.85, and $11.oo shipping, not a bad pay-day.

Did a GJ member snag this one?---I'm thinking Drive.---He's been dogging those good vices that don't take up much room.

Well, another one for the index.


http://www.ebay.com/itm/161715534305?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

 

[Craptain]

va that is a sweet little vise and a double swiveller at that. I hadn't seen it, though I am not really looking these days. I too hope it was someone here that got it, then we will get to see and hear more about it. The photo's were not great on the listing.

 

[zoomieport]

It was on there for the previous week for $49.99 + $11.00, "BUY IT NOW!"

Somebody left $313.00 on the table.... for a Wilton knockoff that has a replacement swivel body screw.

The boys are slipping!!!

Here's the original listing...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/EXCELLENT-B...951?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item25a6748897

 

[va.grouseman]

Zoom, I'll bet someone laughed all the way to the bank.---Amazing what a change of wording, semantics/marketing can do.---Wished I had seen it the first go-around.---I'd have pulled the trigger.---Missed a 202 last year.---Still grieving.

 

[zoomieport]

Zoom, I'll bet someone laughed all the way to the bank.---Amazing what a change of wording, semantics/marketing can do.---Wished I had seen it the first go-around.---I'd have pulled the trigger.---Missed a 202 last year.---Still grieving.

I think I missed out on the same #202 last year, it's been bugging me since...
Marketing is tricky, but it definitely worked this time!