10x16 shed with loft

[hondakilla98]

I'm just getting started on building a 10x16 shed in my back yard. It's going under a big walnut tree. My total height will be 12'6". It'll have a large 8x10 loft, with a small loft in the back. So I'll have almost 16' to put long trim left overs.

I used 4 12"x12"x2.25" blocks on sand under each runner. 4"x4"x16' runners spaced 10' apart(some people won't like it, but span tables say I'm fine). 2"x8" floor joists, 3/4"CDX T&G flooring. 2"x4"x8' studs, finished wall height will be 8' 4.5". 2x6 rafters with 5/8" plywood for roof sheathing. 4'x9' T1-11 siding. 6'x7' metal roll up door, and a couple windows.

Here's my progress so far.

 

[hondakilla98]

I decided to block the middle of the rafters. Then once I planned out my flooring layout, I didn't want any of the plywood sticking up at the non T&G seams. So I put 2x8 blocking where the 8' and 2' pieces meet.


Then liquid nails and galvanized nails.


Floor done, and any excess trimmed off with my router.


First rafter built and bird mouths cut.


The rest of the rafters built before I cut the rest of the bird mouths.

 

[captain14]

Good build so far. Keep posting your progress with pictures.

 

[hondakilla98]

I'm trolling craigslist and the local restore for windows. The door I think I'll buy from home depot. I'm looking at a white 150 series 6'x7' by Clopay for $287. I can't find anything else local, and shipping is more than the door from other places.

I'm also looking at ridge vents, if anyone has suggestions.

Here's the window, and door layout I'm doing, except it'll be a roll up instead of wood doors and a gable roof.


Here's the 3/4 loft I was talking about. I'll be doing the partial section of loft 3' wide instead of 5' like this one.


Under the 8x10 section of loft I'll have a wall in the middle and shelves line this on both sides.

 

[NUTTSGT]

If you're looking at ridge vents, are you considering soffit vents too ?

 

[sublime68charger]

Making good progress so far

Is your door gonna be on the side or end?

 

[billspit]

It looks like a nice build so far. Personally I would have gotten it a little higher off the ground and would have put another 4x4 down the middle.

 

[hondakilla98]

If you're looking at ridge vents, are you considering soffit vents too ?

I'm open to suggestions. Are they the best option?

Making good progress so far

Is your door gonna be on the side or end?

The door will be on the corner like it is in the gambrel roof shed pictured above.

It looks like a nice build so far. Personally I would have gotten it a little higher off the ground and would have put another 4x4 down the middle.

I kept it low for a few reasons. So I can have short ramps for the mower, I don't need a step in front of the door (it's only 10" from the floor to the ground, and I can build a taller shed without cutting that branch (more room in my loft).

 

[sublime68charger]

If your storing long stuff with the door on the end easier to get in and out. Most times also won't have the rain run off and splash back from the roof lines.

Probably thought of all that and have good reason for the side door.

Are you gonna put collar ties on your rafters? What is your snow load?

Great work

 

[hondakilla98]

If your storing long stuff with the door on the end easier to get in and out. Most times also won't have the rain run off and splash back from the roof lines.

Probably thought of all that and have good reason for the side door.

Are you gonna put collar ties on your rafters? What is your snow load?

Great work

With the door on the end, I'd have to walk past everything to get to the back. Including my mower. With the door on the side it's only 9' to the back, instead of 16'. I also like the look of it this way with my yard layout.

I'm debating on putting gutters on it. We never get snow here. An average winter is 1-6" of snow for 2-3 days. Then it melts.

I'll put some kind of brackets on the rafters. I want more than a couple nails holding them in place.

 

[CNGsaves]

First off, nice work. That is well-built beyond anything you could have bought.

I'd go little different route on the ventilation, as there may be times when you DO want ventilation, and others (like winter) when you DON'T want ventilation. I'm make some sort of slider cover for your gable vent so you could close it during winter.

Also, for the attic access, I'd want a door you could open and directly put long boards up in the attic . . . . ie like a barn.

 

[Hpozzuoli]

I am at about the same place. 12x24. I have the decking piled on it now. Just need to find some time to frame. It sits high because there is a hug rock in the middle I didn't find until I started excavating. I love the spot so I raised it up a tad, plus there is a decent grade. 15 piers underneath.

 

[sublime68charger]

With the door on the end, I'd have to walk past everything to get to the back. Including my mower. With the door on the side it's only 9' to the back, instead of 16'. I also like the look of it this way with my yard layout.

I'm debating on putting gutters on it. We never get snow here. An average winter is 1-6" of snow for 2-3 days. Then it melts.

I'll put some kind of brackets on the rafters. I want more than a couple nails holding them in place.

Like I said had your reasons for the side door and they are good reasons and it works for you. And your the one looking at the shed and using it!

Good luck with your build how about a pic with your shade tree you mentioned this is under.

May a partial gutter for where the door is to divert away the snow and rain

 

[hondakilla98]

First off, nice work. That is well-built beyond anything you could have bought.

I'd go little different route on the ventilation, as there may be times when you DO want ventilation, and others (like winter) when you DON'T want ventilation. I'm make some sort of slider cover for your gable vent so you could close it during winter.

Also, for the attic access, I'd want a door you could open and directly put long boards up in the attic . . . . ie like a barn.

I don't care what the temp is in the shed, as long as it's dry. So airflow is a good thing.

As for getting long boards in the shed. The door opening will be 6" from the corner. Diagonally I'll have way more than 16'. I mainly want somewhere to store base and trim.

 

[hondakilla98]

Like I said had your reasons for the side door and they are good reasons and it works for you. And your the one looking at the shed and using it!

Good luck with your build how about a pic with your shade tree you mentioned this is under.

May a partial gutter for where the door is to divert away the snow and rain

I'll get a pic of the tree tomorrow.

I talked to my wife and she wants gutters and a rain barrel. I have her looking at shingles and paint colors. The house needs sided, painted and a new roof. So I'll do this and we can we see if she'shappy with the colors before we do the whole house.

 

[PugetDude]

Nice! Keep the pics coming...

 

[hondakilla98]

I framed my two plain walls today. I'm on hold until Monday when I get an RO for the roll up door.

Here's the tree it's under.




Top and bottom plates cut and laid out



Back wall nailed together.



End wall nailed together.

 

[hondakilla98]

Here are the windows I found for $35. The larger one will go on the end and the smaller one will go on the wall with the door. They're 36x48 and 30x33.



I need to decide how high to frame the windows in the walls. I will have a loft at 7' using 2x6's. The bottom of the 2x6 will be 6'6" off the floor. So the header needs to be under that. If I use a 2x4 header, the top of my windows will be 6'2". My door opening will be 6'8". Will it look off, if the tops of my windows are lower than my door opening?

I'm also wondering if the 3x4 will look too big. Here it is mocked up.

 

[hondakilla98]

Here the end wall with window framed.


It was 91° today. I'm glad I had shade from the walnut tree to work in.

 

[NUTTSGT]

If you are just using the shed as storage, I would do something simple like a gable vent in each end. I would think that would create enough airflow, if it doesn't crack the window and inch or two.

 

[Commendatore]

You need balanced intake and exhaust for good ventilation. Much better to go with soffit vents plus a continuous ridge vent.

 

[hondakilla98]

If you are just using the shed as storage, I would do something simple like a gable vent in each end. I would think that would create enough airflow, if it doesn't crack the window and inch or two.

It is just for storage, but I'd rather overbuild now, than redo something later. And with a shed, it's not that expensive of an upgrade.

You need balanced intake and exhaust for good ventilation. Much better to go with soffit vents plus a continuous ridge vent.

That's what I'm thinking.

 

[hondakilla98]

I ordered my 6'w x 7'h white roll up door from home depot today. It's a Clopay 150C, cost $287 and will take 3-4 weeks to show up. By the time it shows up, the rest of the shed should be done.

Total spent so far is $1755. By the time I do the roof, gutters, paint, and trim I'll be getting close to $2500. Which seems like a lot, until you consider what it would've cost me to have it built. I checked with a couple local shed contractors and was quoted $6000-$7500.


I got my 4th wall almost done. I cut the first 2x8 header 3" short. I was thinking opening, instead of opening plus 3" for trimmer studs. Other than that, I'm ready to put up walls. Which should happen tomorrow!

Here's the 3 finished walls in the background, and the fourth wall laying flat.

 

[NUTTSGT]

It is just for storage, but I'd rather overbuild now, than redo something later. And with a shed, it's not that expensive of an upgrade.

Not a damn thing wrong with overbuilding, I'm a fan of it myself.



What's the plan for a ramp to get the mower in/out ?

 

[sublime68charger]

looking good so far and thanks for the pic with the tree showing the background area of the shed.

Walnut tree you just wait till fall and you be outside and kerplunk as the walnuts fall off the tree and bounce on the rood of the shed, I have a 12x20 yard barn under a walnut tree at my house and here that sound in the fall from time to time.

 

[hondakilla98]

Not a damn thing wrong with overbuilding, I'm a fan of it myself.



What's the plan for a ramp to get the mower in/out ?

Probably some ramp brackets from tractor supply and a couple PT 2x12's.

looking good so far and thanks for the pic with the tree showing the background area of the shed.

Walnut tree you just wait till fall and you be outside and kerplunk as the walnuts fall off the tree and bounce on the rood of the shed, I have a 12x20 yard barn under a walnut tree at my house and here that sound in the fall from time to time.

That's one of the reasons I'm not going with a metal roof. It should be a little quieter.

 

[NorthNjWK]

Looking good!! I am thinking about building my own shed and this has given me some inspiration. Keep posting those pictures...

PS: What type of wood did you use for the floor joists?

 

[hondakilla98]

Looking good!! I am thinking about building my own shed and this has given me some inspiration. Keep posting those pictures...

PS: What type of wood did you use for the floor joists?

I'm glad it's helping motivate someone else. I used pressure treated 2x8 floor joists on top of pressure treated 4x4 skids.

 

[hondakilla98]

Walls up.









Rafters up.

 

[jbmatth]

I like the way you are building this, I wish you'd have done yours before I built mine last year, perhaps I wouldn't have made some of the mistakes I did. I used PT 2x4's for the floor supported by concrete block 24 locations on the 8x16 shed I built. The 2x4's weren't enough and one of them sagged that wasn't supported. I like the rafter idea and it should work great for you, I built trusses and over did it putting them on 12" centers but again out of 2x4's. (2x4's were used due to cost, I didn't know how long I would need it and didn't want to overspend, I was into mine for ~$1,700 total.) That part worked great though except it made storage in the loft difficult. If you get much wind you will want to instal anchors in the ground and use cable to tie it down. Otherwise I think you have really overbuilt it to perfection.

 

[hondakilla98]

I like the way you are building this, I wish you'd have done yours before I built mine last year, perhaps I wouldn't have made some of the mistakes I did. I used PT 2x4's for the floor supported by concrete block 24 locations on the 8x16 shed I built. The 2x4's weren't enough and one of them sagged that wasn't supported. I like the rafter idea and it should work great for you, I built trusses and over did it putting them on 12" centers but again out of 2x4's. (2x4's were used due to cost, I didn't know how long I would need it and didn't want to overspend, I was into mine for ~$1,700 total.) That part worked great though except it made storage in the loft difficult. If you get much wind you will want to instal anchors in the ground and use cable to tie it down. Otherwise I think you have really overbuilt it to perfection.

Thanks for the kind words. That's why I made this build log, so other people could see how I did my shed.

I have a friend that built an 8x12 a few years ago. He's told me all the things he'd change, so I learned from his mistakes. I also spent a lot of time searching the internet, before I got started.

I'm not worried about wind, we rarely get more than 15mph winds. Even in bad storms, they're rarely over 40mph in my area.

 

[jwhcars]

Nice looking build. I would remove the branch above the roof.

 

[hondakilla98]

Nice looking build. I would remove the branch above the roof.

I'll remove some of it, but I like the shade it provides.

I got some of the siding on.

 

[hondakilla98]

After I used the plunge router to cut the door and window openings.

 

[captain14]

I still enjoy looking for this thread. Thanks for posting.

What are your interior plans?

 

[CNGsaves]

Looking good OP . . . . . excellent work !!! . . .

Curious if you're going to POWER the shed ?? Now would be good time to plan a "service entrance" after you bury some conduit over to the house.

 

[ADSR]

looks great!

 

[hondakilla98]

I still enjoy looking for this thread. Thanks for posting.

What are your interior plans?

A large loft, and some shelves. It's just going to be storage space. Basically I'm just getting my garage back. I remodeled the garage over the last few years. Then started a handyman business, and the garage is full again.

Looking good OP . . . . . excellent work !!! . . .

Curious if you're going to POWER the shed ?? Now would be good time to plan a "service entrance" after you bury some conduit over to the house.

It's just dry storage, so no power needed. If I'm working on something, it'll be in my garage.

looks great!

Thanks for all the compliments guys.

 

[sayoda]

Shed is coming along great! Good work!!!

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[hondakilla98]

I got some more sheets hung today.






I'm going to use the router to cut the end sheets. But now that I look at it. I should've just ripped one sheet in half.