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bagged89s10

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Does that thing have a father to raise it properly? If not, your little Oliver Twist is always welcome at Bigcaddys home for wayward vises.


Haha. It's true, I can't take care of it. It's up for adoption. I need to pay off all my vise debt. :D
 

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I picked up this Wilton 1760 today from the results of an auction last week. It turned out to be in better shape that I had thought so I'm pleasantly surprised. The outside is in pretty good shape, it opens and closes smoothly but does have a few chips in the jaws, one bent lock down handle and one missing pipe jaw. Dated on the slide 8-91. It should be an easy restoration but then I'll see if I want to keep one this big around the garage.
$70 Not a bad deal I think.:D
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I picked up this Wilton 1760 today from the results of an auction last week. It turned out to be in better shape that I had thought so I'm pleasantly surprised. The outside is in pretty good shape, it opens and closes smoothly but does have a few chips in the jaws, one bent lock down handle and one missing pipe jaw....
$70 Not a bad deal I think.:D

I'd say that was an awesome deal. The body, even the anvil, look great and the jaws can be flipped over. The question is: What color do you paint it??
 

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I picked up this Wilton 1760 today from the results of an auction last week. It turned out to be in better shape that I had thought so I'm pleasantly surprised. The outside is in pretty good shape, it opens and closes smoothly but does have a few chips in the jaws, one bent lock down handle and one missing pipe jaw. Dated on the slide 8-91. It should be an easy restoration but then I'll see if I want to keep one this big around the garage.

$70 Not a bad deal I think.:D

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That's a "You ****" deal! :thumbup:
 

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Outlaw, here are a few more round sliders added to your list:

1874- Penfield - also had a full covered slide and rotating jaw to boot
1885 - Colton
1904 Prentiss Bingham patent (I think it was later named the Anchor)
1907: Reed patent vise (bought out by Fulton a year or two later)
1907 Sterling - looks like the bottom of the round slide is cut away
1909 ish - F&R, Loweville NY
Bugatti
1930's York
1940s Wilton
Other copy cats…

Other European round slide models are Irimo and Soderfors/Bofors. Then there's the English Swindens.
 

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I picked up this Wilton 1760 today from the results of an auction last week. It turned out to be in better shape that I had thought so I'm pleasantly surprised. The outside is in pretty good shape, it opens and closes smoothly but does have a few chips in the jaws, one bent lock down handle and one missing pipe jaw. Dated on the slide 8-91. It should be an easy restoration but then I'll see if I want to keep one this big around the garage.
$70 Not a bad deal I think.:D
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I bid against you on that one, sorry for trying to get it.:evil:
 

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I'm pretty sure the Parker came out earlier, but the Penfield is the first I've seen with the second jaw.

bl00 I found in one of my books a photo of a Merrill very similar to the Miller Falls. It's from a 1887 Dodge, Haley & co. Also a shot of my coveted Parker 86
 

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Topop101, that looks like the same design to me too. I wonder if Millers was just marketing the vise or if they took over production of it at some point.
 

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I'd say that was an awesome deal. The body, even the anvil, look great and the jaws can be flipped over. The question is: What color do you paint it??

No idea about color yet. That's a good tip about flipping the jaws over. If I've read it before here I forgot it.
 

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Topop101, that looks like the same design to me too. I wonder if Millers was just marketing the vise or if they took over production of it at some point.

I'm not sure if the two companies were connected by ownership or if the shared products.
 

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Joe,

we've all seen the pictures of your son. He could tear that thing from the back of your vehicle without batting an eye. Maybe you could offer him the "carrot" of free beer. Then, once he's arrived, hit him with the "stick":beer:

Little ******* moved 100 miles away...just when i had him trained too. By the way 10:24pm and its still in the trunk. Thank God it's not winter or my wife wouldnt let me take it out!!
 

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You know you are a tool addict when you have people call you from a garage sale and say "I know you are looking for a ______, you want me to get it?". I received a call from a co-worker while I was working who said they where at a sale and there was a vise for $20. She sent me a few pictures and i pounced on it. It is a Craftsman 5161. I think it is made by Reed but now I am wondering if maybe Parker?? It has 3 1/2 jaws and in pretty good shape. I will give it a repaint but does not need any other repair. :evil: What color was this guy originally and how old is it?? I think it is 40's?







So I had some time to work on the vise this weekend... Got everything buzzed down to bare metal and am in the process of painting it. One of my jaw screws is damaged. Anyone have an extra Rock Island screw around?


Vise parts drying in the nice warm 98 degree weather :)



Parts in the process of getting cleaned up. I got these 2 wheels because the guys at the fab shop said they work really well for polishing metal. Are these the same style that you guys use?? Their texture is almost like a brillo pad.



The University of Oregon fans might not want to look at my post when I post the finished vise :evil:

 
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Joe: don't you have an engine hoist with a strap? or a little lift table like Bagged just bought from HF?

BTW i just got your package and haven't opened it or tried it out yet, but wanted to thank you again for it.

nice haul with the three vises and glad he left you with toll bridge money to get home.

cheers
 

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Took my newest Starrett 924 apart today and gave it a full cleaning and lube. There were a couple high spots on the slide that needed a little file job. Used anti-sieze (also says hi temp lubricant) on the swivel base and main screw. I found this damage however to the machined part of the static jaw support. I don't think its a big deal and I have bolted this vise to my workbench at work and officially put it in service. Anyone think its more than something minor? Lube was wiped off for the pic and then reapplied before installing the dynamic jaw. For what I paid, I just wanted the swivel base, the vise was a bonus.
 

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Joe: don't you have an engine hoist with a strap? or a little lift table like Bagged just bought from HF?



BTW i just got your package and haven't opened it or tried it out yet, but wanted to thank you again for it.



nice haul with the three vises and glad he left you with toll bridge money to get home.



cheers


Drives, I didn't buy nor do I have a lift table.

Joe. I think I'll come up tomorrow to and we will just disassemble your car to get the vise out. Or better yet, we can just take a sawzall to the trunk floor and let it fall out. Lol :D
 

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Bagged: sorry that was Lu, excuse the senior moment and you'll work better than any lift helping Joe get out that 250 pounder. Outlaw's method might work if all else fails.

cheers
 

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Robb, I don't think its much to worry about. You could backfill with JB Weld and file flat if you have any concerns.

I wonder how that happened though? I'd guess a defect in the casting and it just flaked out? :dunno:
 

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I agree with Outlaw as well, Robb. I've had a few voids on Athols in some undesirable places (once on the ball portion of the screw yoke. It's hard to see why that passed the "q"-check due to its location. But no matter, there's MUCH beef on that shelf of the static. If (ain't gonna happen), there is a failure, my guess is it's likely to "Jack up" the rail of the dj. BUT way way unlikely....
 

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That's what I figured. Thanks guys. Like I said its in service now, and it's one smoothest and maybe one of the tightest vises out there. Factory backlash is almost nil. Still waiting to find a 945 :)
 

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Went to the hardware store and got 2 5/16-18 Machine screws for the jaws on the 924. One was broke off and one head was gone. The taper on the new screws was too shallow and the head too large. Put the screws on a bench grinder and tapered them by hand. Wrapped my vise grips in electrical tape and ran a dye on the threads when I was done. The taper is a little rough but the heads fit in the jaw recesses perfectly and the jaws line up true. :thumbup:
 

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Went to the hardware store and got 2 5/16-18 Machine screws for the jaws on the 924. One was broke off and one head was gone. The taper on the new screws was too shallow and the head too large. Put the screws on a bench grinder and tapered them by hand. Wrapped my vise grips in electrical tape and ran a dye on the threads when I was done. The taper is a little rough but the heads fit in the jaw recesses perfectly and the jaws line up true. :thumbup:
thats all y'a need.
 

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ALL: anybody have one or seen one of these splicing vises. doesn't seem to be very small either if you notice it's taking up most of the pallet. i'm guessing it was to splice the cable the logger's used, but not sure. any ideas?
 

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Went to the hardware store and got 2 5/16-18 Machine screws for the jaws on the 924. One was broke off and one head was gone. The taper on the new screws was too shallow and the head too large. Put the screws on a bench grinder and tapered them by hand. Wrapped my vise grips in electrical tape and ran a dye on the threads when I was done. The taper is a little rough but the heads fit in the jaw recesses perfectly and the jaws line up true. :thumbup:

In the future, chuck the shank of the screw in a cordless drill and spin it slowly against the grinding wheel. Perfect taper just like a lathe.
 

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In the future, chuck the shank of the screw in a cordless drill and spin it slowly against the grinding wheel. Perfect taper just like a lathe.

I like that idea! I felt like I was posting something dumb but now it was worth it for the tip :beer:
 

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ALL: anybody have one or seen one of these splicing vises. doesn't seem to be very small either if you notice it's taking up most of the pallet. i'm guessing it was to splice the cable the logger's used, but not sure. any ideas?

Never heard of one, but I just searched and found a video of one being used! Neat.

At 1:30, they move from what looks to be a standard bench vise to a cable vise to close the eye around a thimble.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/PsXlslfkrqU" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
 
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Never heard of one, but I just searched and found a video of one being used! Neat.

At 1:30, they move from what looks to be a standard bench vise to a cable vise to close the eye around a thimble.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/PsXlslfkrqU" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Wow. That falls in the category of, "there has to be a better way."

Couple of hard working dudes there.
 
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