KMScott
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VA, nicest 8" vise I have ever seen. Has it ever been used. Wow.
The VISES of Garage Journal
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FMC1959
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Very nice find.2jz4me
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Drive, when you need penicillin, you got real problems.
Fretters, back in the day the Pharmacist new what I wanted when I hit the door.
In high school we were told to shave one side of our ******** and set the other side on fire, then stab the little buggers with an ice pic when they came running out.---That always seemed a little radical to me.---Don't try this at home Joe.
Oh I'm sorry fellows, I forgot, this is the Vise thread not the Vice thread.
There, fixed it.
Dammit! where do you people find these vises?!?!!!
Nuts
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Damn nice 8" vise.
And on top of that, Joe used the word cute is one of his post today.
Isn't there man card deductions for that?
Nuts
And on top of that, Joe used the word cute is one of his post today.
Isn't there man card deductions for that?
Nuts
bagged89s10
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Just saw this Parker 1x in Connecticut on
ANTIQUE CHARLES PARKER # 1X BENCH VICE $165
http://hartford.craigslist.org/tls/5134599456.html
ANTIQUE CHARLES PARKER # 1X BENCH VICE $165
http://hartford.craigslist.org/tls/5134599456.html
bagged89s10
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And a Parker combination vise in the boston area.
Charles Parker table vice $75
http://boston.craigslist.org/nwb/atq/5125816570.html
Charles Parker table vice $75
http://boston.craigslist.org/nwb/atq/5125816570.html
Noticed a vise on an auction site. Any info the vise experts can give would be appreciated.
http://www.k-bid.com/auction/7845/item/16
http://www.k-bid.com/auction/7845/item/16
JeremyBurke
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VA: we are going to need more details I think.
Joe: I am envious of your vise finds I have been looking for a Reed 2C or a Wilton C2 for a while now and haven't even seen one let alone one I can afford. Some of your other "finds" I am less envious of. [emoji12]
Joe: I am envious of your vise finds I have been looking for a Reed 2C or a Wilton C2 for a while now and haven't even seen one let alone one I can afford. Some of your other "finds" I am less envious of. [emoji12]
Its a cheap import. Unless you can get it for next to nothing, and I mean $20 or less (personally), I would steer clear.
va.grouseman
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KM, I really don't know much about it.---I'm sure it had to be used some, but I didn't get the story behind it.---Happened to click on E-bay about 3 1/2 years ago and this older gentleman had just posted it with a BIN, and I did.---It was showing 6 days, 23 hours, and 53 minutes.---Right place, right time.---He just said he took it in on a trade but it was way to big for him.---The vise itself is in good shape but the casting was pretty rough.
15 1/4 tall-----33 3/4 long-----291 lbs.
Look at the casting.
balane
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That big old Yost looks pretty dang good to me!
Outlawmws
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right place/time is right!
bagged89s10
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KM, I really don't know much about it.---I'm sure it had to be used some, but I didn't get the story behind it.---Happened to click on E-bay about 3 1/2 years ago and this older gentleman had just posted it with a BIN, and I did.---It was showing 6 days, 23 hours, and 53 minutes.---Right place, right time.---He just said he took it in on a trade but it was way to big for him.---The vise itself is in good shape but the casting was pretty rough.
15 1/4 tall-----33 3/4 long-----291 lbs.
Look at the casting.
Wow! Again perfect timing. That is still super clean. :rocker :
jakemac
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And a Parker combination vise in the boston area.
Charles Parker table vice $75
http://boston.craigslist.org/nwb/atq/5125816570.html
I saw that one a few days ago. The lousy paint makes it hard to judge it's condition, and I can't tell if it was welded. I'm thinking this might be a parts vise, unless someone is interested in a "project".
bagged89s10
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Yeah it's hard to tell in the pictures if it was welded or not. If it's not welded, it's a nice vise. The only thing missing is the wrench for the swivel.
Shiftless
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Here is a real oldie... a Walworth on C/L in Maine asking $100
http://maine.craigslist.org/tls/5136017026.html
http://maine.craigslist.org/tls/5136017026.html
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meatsis
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Another awesome find balane!! I have a no. 402 1/2 which has a swivel base and swiveling rear jaw. I didnt know they made a 2 inch version.
meatsis
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And beautiful resto btw!!!
oldldh
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There is a very sad Craftsman 5196 that has just showed up on Ebay...
No swivel base...
No swivel base bolt...
No swivel base clamper screw...
Missing a piece of the center pivot bolt hole...
(Probably the best way to say it "It's a "Swiveling B@#tard" no more!!!)
Expensive (BIN $150.00) parts vise...
In Detroit...
No swivel base...
No swivel base bolt...
No swivel base clamper screw...
Missing a piece of the center pivot bolt hole...
(Probably the best way to say it "It's a "Swiveling B@#tard" no more!!!)
Expensive (BIN $150.00) parts vise...
In Detroit...
trijeff
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Wow, can't wait to see the final sales price on this one! Where the heck do you find these gems? Great work as always.
ironhorsemachinery
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Evening--Gents!
Question after reading thru about ten pages--and not really finding a reference to a vise that I picked up last weekend off an old 70's service truck.
My "new' vise needs a little work and some restro--so I need to know a couple things if someone could help...Or should I start a new thread?
It's a Wilton slide #654, stamped on it and I guess model 111103.
I 'd like to know what the original color is--and the diagram fro parts I found for it, is not really what I have. When I took it apart--there is no spring and collar behind the handle/thumbscrew. Only thing holding it in was a little like set-screw and a half moon collar. Little confused here--folks---
Any other info would be appreciated??
Thanks--
glenn
Question after reading thru about ten pages--and not really finding a reference to a vise that I picked up last weekend off an old 70's service truck.
My "new' vise needs a little work and some restro--so I need to know a couple things if someone could help...Or should I start a new thread?
It's a Wilton slide #654, stamped on it and I guess model 111103.
I 'd like to know what the original color is--and the diagram fro parts I found for it, is not really what I have. When I took it apart--there is no spring and collar behind the handle/thumbscrew. Only thing holding it in was a little like set-screw and a half moon collar. Little confused here--folks---
Any other info would be appreciated??
Thanks--
glenn
bagged89s10
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Evening--Gents!
Question after reading thru about ten pages--and not really finding a reference to a vise that I picked up last weekend off an old 70's service truck.
My "new' vise needs a little work and some restro--so I need to know a couple things if someone could help...Or should I start a new thread?
It's a Wilton slide #654, stamped on it and I guess model 111103.
I 'd like to know what the original color is--and the diagram fro parts I found for it, is not really what I have. When I took it apart--there is no spring and collar behind the handle/thumbscrew. Only thing holding it in was a little like set-screw and a half moon collar. Little confused here--folks---
Any other info would be appreciated??
Thanks--
glenn
Where are the pictures? The half moon collar with 3 screws is what holds the lead screw in on Wiltons.
Shiftless
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glenn27
Welcome to our crazy little corner of GJ.
That half moon fitting on the front that is held in place by 3 screws makes it very easy to disassemble your vise for cleaning and restoration. Bagged already explained its function. Your old Wilton probably says Schiller Park on the side, right? Great vise you have there! Just lube the moving parts once in a while, don't use a pipe to extend the handle (cheater) or pound on it with a BFH (big friggin' hammer) and it will probably last you a lifetime.
Welcome to our crazy little corner of GJ.
That half moon fitting on the front that is held in place by 3 screws makes it very easy to disassemble your vise for cleaning and restoration. Bagged already explained its function. Your old Wilton probably says Schiller Park on the side, right? Great vise you have there! Just lube the moving parts once in a while, don't use a pipe to extend the handle (cheater) or pound on it with a BFH (big friggin' hammer) and it will probably last you a lifetime.
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FMC1959
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Evening--Gents!
Question after reading thru about ten pages--and not really finding a reference to a vise that I picked up last weekend off an old 70's service truck.
My "new' vise needs a little work and some restro--so I need to know a couple things if someone could help...Or should I start a new thread?
It's a Wilton slide #654, stamped on it and I guess model 111103.
I 'd like to know what the original color is--and the diagram fro parts I found for it, is not really what I have. When I took it apart--there is no spring and collar behind the handle/thumbscrew. Only thing holding it in was a little like set-screw and a half moon collar. Little confused here--folks---
Any other info would be appreciated??
Thanks--
glenn
The model number sounds like Wilton's mechanics series for 60-70's time frame. There are plenty of Wilton experts on here if you have questions & pictures
FMC1959
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I saw this vise
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-Spcl-M...708?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item463e387f44
Made me think of VA's; his was made of brass?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-Spcl-M...708?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item463e387f44
Made me think of VA's; his was made of brass?
FMC1959
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Not much you can do for spelling on ebay. I thought Manganese had properties like brass or copper, to reduce sparks if struck, in environments with explosive vapors. Didn't know Manganese had properties that would make it less brittle in the cold.
According to a couple Google searches, one of Manganese's major properties is that it prevents corrosion. Go figure, someone on ebay mistakenly described it right
joe.striper
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bagged89s10
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Albino vise with welded jaws!
Looks like he painted this one.
http://newlondon.craigslist.org/tls/5073681080.html
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TreePointer
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lol, thar she blows!
Looks like they couldn't even wait for it to dry before setting it on the rack for pictures.
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Here: http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-VISE-REED-MFG-Co-No-302-ERIE-PA-USA-/371381903408?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5678162030&nma=true&si=7SIA4yIuBGbNljWPLCKEo17fOJs%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
I have some problems, not all, with the current description.
It is the same vise, look at pictures of both. Look at the winning bidder also.
Here is cut and paste from EB listing just now:
(Full Specs At Bottom Of Page.)
A Baby Reed. What? Did you know about these? I certainly wasn't aware of them. I've seen a photo of a 2 1/2" Reed before but that's it. I could hardly believe my eyes when I first looked at this one. And with a pivoting rear jaw no less. This 2" mini vise isn't built like a baby though, it was constructed to be a beast just like Reed's larger powerhouse vises. This vise oozes quality and industrial level fabrication. Reed is at or near the top of any vise aficionado's short list. It looks and works so much like one of Reed's big boys that you'll swear you just stepped out of a transmog machine that turned you into a giant. I can't speak for you but I was blown away to get my hands on this ridiculously limited production vise.
The patent dates on this Reed are 1912 & 1914 so it's plenty old, around a century in fact. The dating indicates this vise could have been manufactured on or slightly later than 1914. How many of them could Reed have manufactured? How many have survived? Quite thankfully this one is pretty darn nice too. You won't be disappointed, that much is certain. One of my favorite things about these little guys is that they aren't typically beat on with heavy sledge hammers. But this one was still a great deal of work to get it looking as you see it. It had been sitting a long time and that pivot lock pin did not want to be woken up. I had a bear of a time getting it out of there and had to make a tiny press that fit inside the vise and pushed the pin up from underneath. And that was after it sat in penetrating oil a while. Fortunately I won and, even more fortunately, once I got the rear jaw out I found that everything was in nice shape.
Once the pin and rear pivot jaw were free it was easy to get the rest apart and cleaned up. I stripped all the old finish off with gel stripper, it wasn't even remotely nice or I would have tried to save it. I firmly believe every part on this vise is original to it. Each major piece is stamped with an identical lot number of 33. This is done to keep machined matched parts together and fully indicates none have been replaced over time. Having the tapered pin still with one of these old ones is a real treat. There's no structural cracking on this vise, I couldn't find a single deal breaker. There were some working marks in the cast iron, just a couple, that I filled and smoothed purely for appearance sake. They won't be bothering anybody now. I smoothed all the pivot surfaces, they look great now but really weren't too bad to begin with. I spent quite a bit of time getting the cast iron to both look and work well. All of the pieces to receive paint were surface prepped and placed in a warming oven at 200 degrees before spraying. If you follow my listings then you may be growing tired of this color but I'm not. It's just perfect for these old, rare vises. The paint is Oil Rubbed Bronze enamel and I haven't found a color yet which better captures the feel of the early 20th century era. Three coats and each application was baked on at the same temp for 30 minutes each. The finish looks marvelous if I may state so. I highlighted the model number in red, the other side's typeset was just too small to yield a nice result with contrasting color. This is a good looking vise to my eyes and you can just feel the age of manufacture when you hold it.
The steel hardware was a snap to clean up, it all looks great and is in fine condition. The screw and nut have no thread damage whatsoever. The pin is in terrific shape, I trimmed the groove in some matching red paint. The only caveat is the handle isn't 100% true but it's really close. I don't think it will bug you, I really didn't want to push my luck with straightening it because it isn't bad. The vise was reassembled with some synthetic lubricant on the main screw and where the spindle rotates on the vise. This old tool still has all the right moves even after a hundred years from leaving the plant. The action is slickety-smooth all the way in and out, it feels great to open and close. The jaw faces, surprisingly, look really decent and they close evenly with good clamping pressure.
If you like rare baby vises this is going to be a must have for your collection. I think it's entirely possible you may never see another one much less find one for sale, and probably not with all the original parts or in as nice shape. You may already know this from my previous vise listings but I take exquisite care in my restorations. I don't cut corners and I make absolutely certain that you'll be receiving a vise that's in the best possible condition. No detail is too small for my attention. I've refinished several hundred vises over the years and you'll be getting all this experience in every vise I sell. This vise is a prize and I know the new owner is going to love and appreciate it. Regardless of size and obscurity, there's just nothing like a Reed.
Please examine all the large photos to see exactly what you can expect to receive and let me know if you have any questions.
The auction is 5 days, starts at $0.99 and has No Reserve.
Payment is by PayPal only. Will ship via Priority Mail with Delivery Confirmation. Payment requested within 3 days of auction end, if you need longer just contact me and let me know. If you have zero, negative or no recent feedback please contact me before bidding.
Thank you for looking.
Specifications:
Baby Reed Pivot Jaw Bench Mount Vise
Model No. 302
Jaws: 2" x 3/4"
Opens to: 4"
Throat Depth: 2 3/8"
Length When Closed: 9 3/4"
Height: 4 7/8" (From mounting surface.)
Weight: 10 Lbs. 12 Oz.
Manufactured In: Erie PA, USA
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Sorry to do this.
balane
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I buy lots of vises from eBay, most in fact. That isn't exactly a secret and you don't have to be sorry.
The fairly big cracked out craters on back swivel jaw is the main problem.
EB description is deceptive, sorry to say.
balane
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Oh, I've had way, way worse ones than that in the past. That's what I do, buy sad vises and make them nice again. That damage is history now and it wasn't structural in any way. Because the vise is so small that damage looks far worse in photos than it really was. Those "Craters" were tiny and probably one of the easiest things to tend with on this vise.
EDIT: I changed the line describing the damage to this. Better?
"There were two divots in the rear pivot jaw cast iron, one small and one larger that I filled and smoothed purely for appearance sake."
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EDIT: I changed the line describing the damage to this. Better?
"There were two divots in the rear pivot jaw cast iron, one small and one larger that I filled and smoothed purely for appearance sake."
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Not small in my eyes, but our opinion is different.
But just be honest on repairs.
I've been following this thread for a while. Read all of it. Of course there is no way to remember all of the thread.
I own several vises big and small that I use. Bench and milling machine vises.
I also own small and large, lathes and millings machines in my shop and various other large machines and welders. My metal cutting capacity weight wise is less than 1 ounce to a couple tons.
So I know about repairs to stuff quite well.
balane
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You do realize that vise has 2" jaws, right? The biggest of the two is smaller than your little fingernail, the smaller one was absolutely tiny. It's physically impossible for these chips to be large. Filling and smoothing surface damage like that is something I've done probably over a hundred times in the past and is basically second nature for me. I did mention the surface repairs but I'm certainly not going to make an issue of them because they aren't. There's too many good things about this vise. I wish I saved before photos because I could show you some big ones!!