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NoahG

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Ok. So I'm looking for a 5/16" hex shank double end bit, square #1 on one end and square #2 on the other. Not the little ones that come in 10in1, but the larger bits of a 5 in 1. Anyone know where to find one? Mcfeelys has been out of stock for over a year. I've got an Enderes model but it's SQ0/1 on one side and SQ2/3 on the other.


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Ok. So I'm looking for a 5/16" hex shank double end bit, square #1 on one end and square #2 on the other. Not the little ones that come in 10in1, but the larger bits of a 5 in 1. Anyone know where to find one? Mcfeelys has been out of stock for over a year. I've got an Enderes model but it's SQ0/1 on one side and SQ2/3 on the other.

McMaster sells individual 1/4" & 5/16" hex shank double end bits. Not sure what length you are looking for. Some of the McMaster bits have ball retention and some do not.
 

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Ok. So I'm looking for a 5/16" hex shank double end bit, square #1 on one end and square #2 on the other. Not the little ones that come in 10in1, but the larger bits of a 5 in 1. Anyone know where to find one? Mcfeelys has been out of stock for over a year. I've got an Enderes model but it's SQ0/1 on one side and SQ2/3 on the other.


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Epsteins has some tubes and bits for a $1 something. Not sure if the square is the one you are looking for or not.

I am in the looking for any of the older Craftsman 47480 or 47481 screwdrivers as well as a Menards Master force or Pratt Read multi screwdriver.
 
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Snagged two of the old style Enderes multi's today at a pawn shop.
The larger one is missing one of the bits and is nasty, but being old (pre-bankruptcy style) hard-handles and only 50 cents each made it a no brainer.

Enderes will sell you the replacement bits directly!
 

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McMaster sells individual 1/4" & 5/16" hex shank double end bits. Not sure what length you are looking for. Some of the McMaster bits have ball retention and some do not.


McMaster has 5/16" hex bits with the ball retention, but they either have them as SQ0&1 or SQ2&3. Not the SQ1&2 I'm looking for.


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With all the love they get in "screwdriver" threads I'm surprised no ones mentioned PB Swiss...
 

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With all the love they get in "screwdriver" threads I'm surprised no ones mentioned PB Swiss...
I don't actually own one, but that doesn't stop me from drooling over these:

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Insider 3 - 10 bits (ratcheting)
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Insider 1, 2 & 3
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Twister (ratcheting)
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Have a Mastercraft Maximum, Snap-On and this Wera ratcheting screwdriver

And the Wera is my favourite by a mile..
You find the Wera has less backdrag than the SO?
 
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M6erfan

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I don't actually own one, but that doesn't stop me from drooling over these:

Duplex
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Insider 1 - 8 bits
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41tXgVaYzdL.jpg

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Insider 2 - 10 bits
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Insider 3 - 10 bits (ratcheting)
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Insider 1, 2 & 3
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Twister (ratcheting)
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I know, multi bit driver ****!
 

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That's the one, actually pretty decent driver

I picked up that set this afternoon and returned it within 45 minutes. Perhaps the quality has dropped significantly since yours was made but the ratchet was horrible and barely functional. The general quality was extremely poor.

The Milwaukee ratchet is a Cadillac, by comparison. I think it works pretty well. I like the Milwaukee drivers. If the bits were better, I would not need to shop any further. In fact, with DeWalt impact ready bits to replace the #1 robertson, these drivers are fine for me.

My Wera is a non-ratchet Kraftform Kompact. The handle is decent quality but the bits and design are superb.

I look forward to the arrival of an assortment of Wiha drivers and a Williams WRS-1.

My favourite handle design remains the Picquic but I'm choking on the number of Picquic recommendations in this thread. The bits are horrible and it's tough to replace them because they are 75mm. It's easy to find a 75mm phillips or torx but finding a robertson in 75mm length is a tall order.
 

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Back on the subject of basic 6-in-1's (not mere bit drivers). I'm a stickler about these things because I use mine more than anything other than my pocketknife.

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I received a new Channellock 61A from a big online retailer, and I gotta tell you, it is hands-down the beefiest 6-in-1 I've ever seen. Looks like it will outlast me and whoever gets my stuff, and it is priced well below other brands.

The Chennellock has a large slotted/flat on one bit and small slotted/flat on the other. This is unlike the mixed setup on the Lutz, which has large/small-slotted and large/small-flat on each bit. I prefer the Channellock way, where both the big bits are together on the big driver end and vice-versa for the small end.

The black parkerized Channellock driver/shaft that holds the bits is a heavier gauge than any I've seen. On many of the Taiwan-made ones like Husky and Lutz, the 1/4 driver part is stepped down to a thinner gauge. That step helps to identify the small end, but any kind of mark could do that... plus there's always only small bits on the 1/4 side of the Channellock. My guess is that leaving off this extra bit of machining helps cut the costs of the unit, to keep it competitive with imported models.

I dont think the lack of that tiny step-down will matter in the amount of clearance you can use with this tool either. You should have just as much trouble installing a doorknob with the Channellock as you would with any of the others. I know you've felt that pain. :bounce:

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The receiver for the shaft inside the handle on the Channellock has ~2x thicker walls than the husky, lutz, klein and craftsman. The thinnest part of the wall on the channellock (where the groves are) is thicker than the thickest part on the others. Thicker steel + more surface area for ribbing and glue = more torsional strength.

Following on the robust theme, the ribbed handle on the Channellock is four-sided, compared to the others that are all 6-sided. The larger flat space on the channellock handle allows you more torque from your hands, though it might be less precise-feeling than hex shaped handles. For general appliance and household electrical chores, that level of precision should not matter at all. If you are working with screws on a metal roof, the Channellock is less likely to roll because of it's shape... but really, why aren't you using a battery-powered driver up there?

A detail on the bits... The brands are all interchangeable, except the dinky ones on the klien. Again, probably cutting costs to be competitively priced, the bits on the Channellock are not marked with stamped sizes... no big deal, I think we can tell one from the other of these 4 bits, right?

Finally, unlike the Lutz or Husky, the Channellock boasts proudly that it is Made in USA on the unit, meaning legally, EVERY part is made in the USA. I like that, and for some people its a very important thing. Take a close look at the chrome shaft on the Lutz and you see "TAIWAN". Take a close look at the handle on the Husky and you see tiny embossed type "TAIWAN"... these are "assembled" in USA but the parts are foreign. TAIWAN actually makes good stuff, as long as the QC is there, but really, do you need to pay for oil to ship it around the world so it can be made by desperation labor?

So in summary, Channellock 61A = biggest, beefiest, simplest, and USA-est of all the 6-in-1s I've found so far.

Thanks for reading.

PS: I want to add a strong warning. I love Channellock products in general, but they have made a mistake in the 61CB model... it is a cheap imported piece that pales in comparison to the mighty 61A. Avoid it.
 
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Got my snap on and I'm not impressed. I thought $20 was a great deal at first. The handle is printed not engraved like every other hard handle snap on tool I own. The bits/shank look exactly the same as the orange 6in1 that home depot sells for 3.99. Haven't used it much yet some I'm hope full it's not the same.
 

mikebaker1129

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Back on the subject of basic 6-in-1's (not mere bit drivers). I'm a stickler about these things because I use mine more than anything other than my pocketknife.

61A_O-936.PNG


I received a new Channellock 61A from a big online retailer, and I gotta tell you, it is hands-down the beefiest 6-in-1 I've ever seen. Looks like it will outlast me and whoever gets my stuff, and it is priced well below other brands.

The Chennellock has a large slotted/flat on one bit and small slotted/flat on the other. This is unlike the mixed setup on the Lutz, which has large/small-slotted and large/small-flat on each bit. I prefer the Channellock way, where both the big bits are together on the big driver end and vice-versa for the small end.

The black parkerized Channellock driver/shaft that holds the bits is a heavier gauge than any I've seen. On many of the Taiwan-made ones like Husky and Lutz, the 1/4 driver part is stepped down to a thinner gauge. That step helps to identify the small end, but any kind of mark could do that... plus there's always only small bits on the 1/4 side of the Channellock. My guess is that leaving off this extra bit of machining helps cut the costs of the unit, to keep it competitive with imported models.

I dont think the lack of that tiny step-down will matter in the amount of clearance you can use with this tool either. You should have just as much trouble installing a doorknob with the Channellock as you would with any of the others. I know you've felt that pain. :bounce:

6-in-1.jpg


The receiver for the shaft inside the handle on the Channellock has ~2x thicker walls than the husky, lutz, klein and craftsman. The thinnest part of the wall on the channellock (where the groves are) is thicker than the thickest part on the others. Thicker steel + more surface area for ribbing and glue = more torsional strength.

Following on the robust theme, the ribbed handle on the Channellock is four-sided, compared to the others that are all 6-sided. The larger flat space on the channellock handle allows you more torque from your hands, though it might be less precise-feeling than hex shaped handles. For general appliance and household electrical chores, that level of precision should not matter at all. If you are working with screws on a metal roof, the Channellock is less likely to roll because of it's shape... but really, why aren't you using a battery-powered driver up there?

A detail on the bits... The brands are all interchangeable, except the dinky ones on the klien. Again, probably cutting costs to be competitively priced, the bits on the Channellock are not marked with stamped sizes... no big deal, I think we can tell one from the other of these 4 bits, right?

Finally, unlike the Lutz or Husky, the Channellock boasts proudly that it is Made in USA on the unit, meaning legally, EVERY part is made in the USA. I like that, and for some people its a very important thing. Take a close look at the chrome shaft on the Lutz and you see "TAIWAN". Take a close look at the handle on the Husky and you see tiny embossed type "TAIWAN"... these are "assembled" in USA but the parts are foreign. TAIWAN actually makes good stuff, as long as the QC is there, but really, do you need to pay for oil to ship it around the world so it can be made by desperation labor?

So in summary, Channellock 61A = biggest, beefiest, simplest, and USA-est of all the 6-in-1s I've found so far.

Thanks for reading.

PS: I want to add a strong warning. I love Channellock products in general, but they have made a mistake in the 61CB model... it is a cheap imported piece that pales in comparison to the mighty 61A. Avoid it.
I ordered 2 of the Channellock brand to try out,I did confirm with Channellock that even the bits are made in the USA,while most others have sourced bits from Taiwan even when the drivers are made here. Even Klein has went to Asia for the drivers and bits.
I had an old Craftsman 5 in 1 that was a workhorse and was well built made by Pratt Read,this Channellock unit looks a lot like a Pratt Read screwdriver.
I found out these are on back order.
I purchased the Wera unit mentioned above also,I guess I am a collector !
 

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i dunno why but i never use them. i have a few craftsman and a harley branded snap on. just always seemed like a novelty.
 

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Lately, I use my Ideal 7-in-1 more than my other multi bit drivers. It's nice and light, and feels good in your hands. I use a dedicated Wera screw stick if I really need to use a lot of force, though.
 

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Hey all yaw.

I bet you've accumulated a bunch of 1/4" X 1" bits over the years, right? they come with everything as an addon... sometimes you might buy a whole pack just to get one particular size. I like to use old Altoids tins to store em as spares...because the cheap ones like to strip out on you.

Today, I receieved my new Crasftsman 41796 Ready-Bit driver...Its a racheting driver for those little bits, and what a MONSTER this thing is:

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The handle is HEEEEUUUGE. The magnetic bit holder will allow you to use all those extra 1/4" x 1" bits.

With a pull, the handle end slides out and reveals clamps for holding the 14 supplied bits in various sizes.

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Each clamp holds two standard 1/4 X 1 bits in opposition. The whole thing also spins freely inside the screwdriver handle...so when it's closed it spins like the end of a precision screwdriver would too. Kinda nice, but it will have to be put to the test to see if it's useful.

The driver end itself ratchets, or it can be locked in the neutral position. The ratcheting action is more like a "clutch" that relies on friction than the traditional clicking paw-gear type of ratchet. That gives you a lot more precision, but might mean less ultimate torque before the clutch slips. I've tested it on some wood screws and had no problems. Anything super hard to open will get a whack from my battery-powered impact anyways.

Though it is big, it is nice that it carries bits with it, and it seems to be well made. Even the bits say USA on them, so they're not just a cheap afterthought thrown in as an extra. They should hold up better than the freebies that come with deck screws.

I think for a auto/cycle tool kit, or for a gun bench this thing wold be a nice tool to have that will last forever as long as the clutch ratchet holds. I've not seen any online reports of one failing yet.
 
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Any handle that feels good to you. Then buy the best bits you can afford.
 

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Just purchased a Picquic Sixpac Plus for $12.49 on Amazon. Hopefully it's everything it's said to be.
 

txdm

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UPDATE:

I just went outside to clean up my AC unit for the impending warmer temps. I carried the Channellock 61A, and needed to use both bit drivers thanks to the previous owners who were careless with the sheet metal screws. Easy enough and required no trips back inside to fetch another bit.

Over the winter I used the 61A to open up my washer to replace a dead temp sensor, and also took down a mercury vapor "street lamp" and converted it over to LED, removing the ballast.

I used the Wiha on a few installs of SSD's on computers for myself and workmates.

The craftsman got used once or twice at my bench, but I can't remember what for!
 
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