How are Angle Nose Pliers any different from regular Slip Joint?

[winlinmac]

How are Angle Nose Pliers any different from regular Slip Joint?
Is it just a larger jaw opening? Been browsing through Wilde Tool's inventory and was curious to know the difference; noticed that the angle nose pliers were patented by Wilde.

 

[four.cycle]

^ the Wilde angle-nose plier is the original.
but: go with a groove-joint - way mo' betta.
you can do it on the cheap right now here:

Wilde 7½" groove-joint angle jaw pliers
used/like new
$6 + $2.50 shipping now. 0 bids now. ends Sat. 02/20
OR $8 + $2.50 shipping "buy now"
http://www.ebay.com/itm/331779138654?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

if you really want to go with the slip-joint this is the least expensive one you can get right now:

Wilde 6" slip-joint angle-jaw pliers
new NOS
$9 + $3 shipping "buy now"
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wilde-Tool-...738171?hash=item4d37264abb:g:xNQAAOSw~gRV3LIa

OR

if you want the plastic-grip handles in a groove-joint for way cheap:

Proamerica D2114 7½" groove-joint angle-jaw pliers (US made)
new NOS
$4.74 + $3.99 shipping "buy now"
http://www.ebay.com/itm/PRO-AMERICA...051809?hash=item43e91192a1:g:KdkAAMXQVERSr3fE

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Wilde has a mess of options. best prices I've found have been on Ebay:



* I've got a pair like the second one I listed above, but in the 8" model: serious pliers.
* difference between Wilde and Proamerica: Wilde uses a nut-and-bolt attachment (discussed in another thread). Proamerica uses a fixed rivet.
* best prices on Ebay on either: sellers donvito-NY and bowerstool

 

[Greg85mcss]

Angle are better for turning almost like a pipe wrench. You can put leverage on the one side while basically using the other to just keep the pliers closed. Also they help with weird angles. Most of the people here have probably bought plenty of different kinds of pliers & have a few types they find aren't their favorite. That's when I wait till I get a gift card so I don't feel like I wasted money.


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[winlinmac]

Thanks Greg, I already have a bunch of groove lock pliers / water pump pliers from Channellock and Knipex and am not sure what benefit I will get from using the Wilde type. Your explanation helps me justify in giving them a try, especially in weird angles. I don't know if too many pliers can be problem; they seem to come in many different forms, shapes, and sizes

There's even a non-marring smooth Tongue & Groove which Wilde makes, going for $15 on Amazon

Angle are better for turning almost like a pipe wrench. You can put leverage on the one side while basically using the other to just keep the pliers closed. Also they help with weird angles. Most of the people here have probably bought plenty of different kinds of pliers & have a few types they find aren't their favorite. That's when I wait till I get a gift card so I don't feel like I wasted money.


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[jallyn]

Absolutely more capacity with the angle nose. They go by different names: ChannelLocks, Water Pump Pliers, Arc Joint Pliers. I highly recommend Knipex brand. Standard model is the Knipex Alligator "water pump" pliers. Better are the Knipex Cobra "water pump" pliers. Nice thing with Knipex and what other brands are copying, is the shape and orientation of the teeth for locking on to the fastener or pipe so well that you don't even have to squeeze the handles once it is biting in. There are plenty of youtube videos and demos where, no kidding, a guy grips on to a round pipe, stands on the top handle, removes his hand, and puts his whole body-weight on the pliers. They even bounce a little bit to demonstrate they won't slip and highlights the strength of the pliers. Not to mention hardened teeth that stand up to abuse.

 

[winlinmac]

Thanks, I guess I'd be having more of the same type of tools (having already owned Knipex and Channellock) if I go with the Original Wilde then it seems.

 

[four.cycle]

uhh.... yes and no... Greg kinda-sorta makes it make sense above... not sure I can do better to explain it...

THIS:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wilde-Tool-...=item4d37264abb:g:xNQAAOSw~gRV3LIa&rmvSB=true

applies the force a little differently than your Channellock groove-joint (or slip-joint) "water pump" pliers. not just the force of the lower jaw, but also your arm.
I'm not a physicist so I really can't explain it better.
just for laughs blow ten bucks and get a set of those funny-looking Wilde models and try 'em out.... only real way to know.

my go-to pair for most stuff has been a pair of #3443 Indestro 13" groove-joints for years, but they're awfully damn big for a lot of stuff, so I recently acquired several sets of the Wilde models like in the photos I posted above (as well as that funny-looking model I posted the link to, but again: I went with the 8" model.)

 

[winlinmac]

Thanks,
I've always thought Wilde's tools were in everyone's toolboxes
...especially their "original" angle nose pliers

uhh.... yes and no... Greg kinda-sorta makes it make sense above... not sure I can do better to explain it...

THIS:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wilde-Tool-...=item4d37264abb:g:xNQAAOSw~gRV3LIa&rmvSB=true

applies the force a little differently than your Channellock groove-joint (or slip-joint) "water pump" pliers. not just the force of the lower jaw, but also your arm.
I'm not a physicist so I really can't explain it better.
just for laughs blow ten bucks and get a set of those funny-looking Wilde models and try 'em out.... only real way to know.

my go-to pair for most stuff has been a pair of #3443 Indestro 13" groove-joints for years, but they're awfully damn big for a lot of stuff, so I recently acquired several sets of the Wilde models like in the photos I posted above (as well as that funny-looking model I posted the link to, but again: I went with the 8" model.)

 

[winlinmac]

Would the older Wilde Knurled model be a step backwards? Or would it not be a surprise to see one in everyone's toolbox?

 

[winlinmac]

The Wilde Angle Nose Pliers, all of them for the matter except their newest flush pliers, do not have an anti-pinch feature, it seems. Good thing I went for the knurled option off eBay to give the original design a try.

 

[four.cycle]

^ errrr.... no, they don't have any sort of "anti-pinch" safety device - but you're less likely to mash fingers with groove-joint than you are with slip-joint.
at least that's been my experience. YMMV.

 

[Murph-dog]

I need pliers with a anti pinch feature too, for the same reason why I switched to jeans with buttons instead of a zipper