Vise and Grinder stands. I'm looking for ideas on how to use several in limited space

[savethatclassic]

Here is mine, was going put my vise on it, but went with the drill press instead.

 

[Richard D]

FB: do tell how one lines up and gets all those holes drilled so you can bolt them

I would use a transfer punch. You choose the punch who's diameter matches the bolt hole, it has a small point on the end, and you give it a tap. Than you come back with a big punch and hit your mark to make it easier to pick up with your drill.
http://www.globalindustrial.com/p/m...9mbYhGKZv37x-6pPaF46Hze0e0Ku0486JzBoCiWLw_wcB

 

[drivesitfar]

Richard: great post and link

ZK: good post

ALL: so does every GJ member own a mag drill or do tell how you all drill through 1/8, 1/4, 3/8, 1/2, 3/4 and bigger steel plate? i'm guessing the punch is great for the drill to start the hole, but wondering if you all drill a pilot hole with maybe 1/8 and then go to size of hole or do you continue to make slightly bigger holes. also do you use any oil?

 

[flyingblind]

Please post how you attach and set it up with the landing gear. That's a great idea!

I took the foot off the landing gear and flipped it upside down. Cut out the square opening for the leg. The feet on older trailers get bent like a bowl. So now the foot is an upside down bowl and does not sit flat on the drum, I marked only 1 hole and then took it to the mill but if I ever have to do it again I will use the hole saw that I used to drill the holes for marking every one (like a center drill). Now the bolts go in and then the impact gun does the rest to **** it flat. I have a couple more pictures but I am on the road till Thursday.
WP_20160207_001 by Al Capone, on Flickr

 

[flyingblind]

FB: looks like you tripled your investment with $20 worth of bolts. do tell how one lines up and gets all those holes drilled so you can bolt them if you would. so many guys do it like it's nothing, but for some of us knowing the tips and tricks that we didn't learn watching a dad, gramps or mentor would help.

thanks and i too want to see how you attach the plate.

good luck and looks great so far

Actually I am in it 70 bucks now, I bought 6 castors as well. I used a milling machine to drill all the holes and cad to figure out the coordinates so all I needed was 1 start point. But it would have been way easier to use a hole saw ( to center on the hole) the size of the lug hole and just drill small center points where every hole was and then use an 1/8 to drill all the way through each point so you could drill it from the other side. I used a 7/8ths bi metal hole saw at 360rpms and wd40

 

[flyingblind]

Zkling the base of the landing gear can't be pulled flat with 3 or 4 bolts or I would have done it that way.

 

[Richard D]

ALL: so does every GJ member own a mag drill or do tell how you all drill through 1/8, 1/4, 3/8, 1/2, 3/4 and bigger steel plate? also do you use any oil?

Yes I have a mag drill, got used from eBay, I love it! I almost always use cutting oil, I like the water soluble Kool Mist 77. I mix it up and put it in a Nalgene economy wash bottle. Keep a bottle by the drill press, milling machine, bandsaw, and mag drill.
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[Techie1961]

Drivesitfar asked me to post my bench grinder stand, that I built, in his thread so here goes.

It's an older Wolf grinder that I've had for many years and I've been on a bit of a restoration kick for a little while now. I figured it was time to show some love to this old guy that's served me well for a while. Bearings were shot and the base was something that I never liked as it tended to walk around the shop a lot.

Not sure if it's saved any space but so far it's working well and for some of you, it's a cheap way to build a stand if you have some old fittings kicking around like I did.

Before:

During:

I realize that the stand is not everyone's cup of tea but...
After:

 

[PoorOwner]

What does the gate valve do?

 

[Techie1961]

What does the gate valve do?

It holds up the water cup. I just thought that since it was a water cup and I wanted it to look different, I would put a valve there. It's kind of like a truck that I did many years ago where I put the alternator on the rear end. People would always ask me why so I made this sign for shows.

 

[the gypsy]

If I were you, I would at the very least put something functional. Like a faucet at the front right under the water receptacle so as to drain the water when finished grinding.
Hey but then nobody would be scratching there head.
And for your alternator on the rear diff? I am thinking maybe you should put a whirly jig on the top of the vehicle, something we can see. Maybe a whirly jig of a man and a women in a compromising position.
To each there own, but I am practical that way. I apologize if I offended you.

 

[Techie1961]

... To each there own, but I am practical that way. I apologize if I offended you.

Hell no, not offended.

 

[the gypsy]

So does that mean that, you might consider the whirly jig. I will keep my eyes open.

 

[Techie1961]

So does that mean that, you might consider the whirly jig. I will keep my eyes open.

Hell no! I said I wasn't offended; I didn't say I liked your ideas.

 

[alpinewhite]

I made this stand for my vise a while back but it moved around too much. Once I picked up a grinder I took the vise off and drilled some new holes. It works much better as a grinder stand. The top is about 32" off the floor and it seems like a pretty good height.

The base is a truck brake drum I brought home and knocked all the rust off with a needle scaler and wire brush. Looks like I should've painted it... I cut rough circle out of a 1/2" plate and burned some holes in it to match the bolt pattern on the drum. It's pretty rough but for my first time cutting anything useful with the torch I was happy.

A coworker welded the pipe to the plate and stuck a 3/8" plate to the top that I drilled and tapped for the vise.

I need to go ahead and paint the thing once it warms up.

What's the advantage of bolting it instead of just welding it?

 

[62blue]

Gentleman! Just where is your thought on safety here! A Vise should never be made with the idea of being loose and not bolted to the floor or a work table. I see some very nice Vises and Grinders here just looking for a accident to happen to them. If you have a portable Grinder stand it should not be on wheels. One thing you can think about is if it needs to be portable a (Grinder that is) use a disc blade that you can put your foot on when grinding. I have saw a lot of Vises made to fold out of the way on your work bench. One question I have is why so many vices on one table? I would seem to me that they would just be in the way.
I hope you don't think I am being a a$$ here only thinking of safety! A Vise even with a 200lb weight can tip over on you if it is not bolted down. Just my thoughts.

 

[Wayfastwhitie440]

Here is just my thoughts. I have a vise on a stand and on a table. The one on a stand that's not bolted down is like having a third hand and I put stuff in it to grind or help me hold something while assembling the one on the table is because the table is super heavy and I can use it to hold a item and break something loose.

 

[jbjke]

Vise and Grinder stands. I'm looking for ideas on how to use several in limit...

Drivesitfar asked me to post my bench grinder stand, that I built, in his thread so here goes.



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I realize that the stand is not everyone's cup of tea but...



Cup of tea? It's like a puzzle to me, only industrial version of one. So as I'm looking for ideas to take a grinder from a welding table I have and mount it by itself somewhere I come across this cool idea but it's racking my brain because I am trying to zoom in and figure out how the two horizontal pieces were put in the plumbing. Right under the base is what looks like a cross, then pipe *******, and then elbows. Maybe it's just Sunday and my brain is shut down but how did the small horizontal pipe ****** get in there down below ? By threading really tight and then loosening /threading into the other tee as you tightened the above assembly? Just curious anyway.

Be cool if that valve had pressure so when some kid come by and opened it, he'd have a water fountain.. be some good iron content too I guess in that drink.

Cool restoration mechanically and cosmetic by the way. I'm new to the board and looking to improve efficiency in my shop. Just brought in a scissor lift dock platform on Friday, weighs about 2,900 #'s & trying to figure out how to use it for various projects. Thought being able to adjust the height would be a help.


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[drivesitfar]

62: I (we) preach safety a lot here. if you have a specific design you'd like to question please post pictures and let's talk about it. most of the wheels i know of on stands are off the ground once you put them in position. i know one member just bought a new Wilton C3 that weighs 220 pounds by itself that he put on a little rolling stand, but i think he has locking casters. we mentioned that and also the fact that anything in the jaws might tip it so he bought 2 50 pound weight plates to put on the little shelf under the vise at the rear of the vise for better stability. let's talk specifics or maybe you just wanted to give another warning in general which is also a good thing. do you have your vises on a stand or bench?

also multiple vises on a bench can be very useful and some members just have a few spares sitting there not in use.

JB: one of the nicest first posts i've read. plenty of positive comments and questions. i'm not sure exactly how Techie made his AWESOME stand, but i think he mentioned on the vintage grinder thread before he posted it over here that he welded some of it. here's the link and if you like old grinders it's a great read even if you only look at the pictures. http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=107092

also welcome to our group and Garage Journal

 

[Techie1961]

Re: Vise and Grinder stands. I'm looking for ideas on how to use several in limit...

Cup of tea? It's like a puzzle to me, only industrial version of one. So as I'm looking for ideas to take a grinder from a welding table I have and mount it by itself somewhere I come across this cool idea but it's racking my brain because I am trying to zoom in and figure out how the two horizontal pieces were put in the plumbing. Right under the base is what looks like a cross, then pipe *******, and then elbows. Maybe it's just Sunday and my brain is shut down but how did the small horizontal pipe ****** get in there down below ? By threading really tight and then loosening /threading into the other tee as you tightened the above assembly? Just curious anyway.

Be cool if that valve had pressure so when some kid come by and opened it, he'd have a water fountain.. be some good iron content too I guess in that drink.

Cool restoration mechanically and cosmetic by the way. I'm new to the board and looking to improve efficiency in my shop. Just brought in a scissor lift dock platform on Friday, weighs about 2,900 #'s & trying to figure out how to use it for various projects. Thought being able to adjust the height would be a help.


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Thanks! I've always been a little... let's just say, "different" in the stuff that I do.

Drivesitfar explained it in the post that he made that the horizontal 3/4" pipe was welded in the middle. I was thinking of putting a union in there but the impossibility of it made me go with welding.

 

[jbjke]

It had crossed my mind that you did weld it. I went looking on the other pages that "Drivesitfar" mentioned but there are 54 pages to scroll through. May have to sift through it later to find it. Really neat idea though.

I vision things like that in my head but when it comes to grabbing the cut off saw or grinder I usually go with simple box tubing or angle iron to keep the hours low.

I've never been able to find the time to paint any of my equip. that I've obtained, just use it and keep it serviced. Maybe someday .... Projects on the list: "Painting" ..... And grinder on stand, more vises, better smaller welding station, another vs drill press find, oh and the fun one.... wire motorcycle for heated gear.


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[drivesitfar]

JB: i have my views of threads set up so i can see the last post first instead of going to the first one all the time. much easier if you are reading several threads and wanting to see the latest posts. if you go to the link i mentioned on the grinder thread in vintage tools Techie's grinder posts are either on the last page or the next one.

also if you want to post your location or general area you live in your profile that will show up under your AVATAR you will maybe get better answers to specific questions you might post.

Just an FYI. i'm usually taking the route that is easier or something that won't take as much time, but i sure like some of the member's cool ideas and STUFF they make so i'm changing my mind set.

sounds like i need to give you a WARNING about GJ. you will or should learn a ton about tools and STUFF and just letting you know that one side effect of being a participating member is that you will rarely have a Benjamin in your wallet ever again unless you are on your way to spend it. good luck with that and again welcome.

 

[Techie1961]

Haha, no kidding about the warning drivesitfar. As far as the mindset change, this forum has had a very profound affect on me also. I was too of the mind that you work the tools and if they look bad, oh well. I've never been a tool polisher but I find that there are many here that have made me aware that I need to care for my tools better. So, I am. I can't guarantee the tools that I have redone will look like that for long but at least they have a fresh start.

 

[drivesitfar]

JB & ALL: to maintain some of the bare steel you might have in your shop might i suggest BLO (boiled linseed oil) and you can keep applying coats as needed. also over on the Vise Repair 101 thread Fretters tried shoe polish on one of his vises and it's still holding up without rusting in his shed in England. he also has a mix with beeswax and a few other goodies for his lathe and other tools he didn't want to paint or for their unpainted slides.

ALL: i'm looking for a nice 6 or 8 inch blacksmith vise to put on this stand where the owner bought the vise on it before i found the stand. anybody have one to sell or know of a good one?

 

[Richard D]

I love the pipe fitting grinder stand! I have also seen alternators mounted off the diff, a trick to hide them on traditional hot rods where it is undesireable to have any visible modern parts that aren't "period correct".

 

[Techie1961]

I love the pipe fitting grinder stand! I have also seen alternators mounted off the diff, a trick to hide them on traditional hot rods where it is undesireable to have any visible modern parts that aren't "period correct".

Thanks Richard! When I mounted the alternator I hadn't heard of them being done. I worked for a R&D facility and was also had a SuperFlow dyno. I like the look of drag motors as well as Dyno motors where there isn't anything attached to the front of the motor. So, the alternator went to the rear end. This is what the motor looked like circa late 1980s. Belt from crank to water pump and that's it.

When I look at these, it looks so dated now.

 

[the gypsy]

Oh well I guess I am going to have to eat my words. Techie1961, I did not understand why you put the alternator on the rear diff. Now I understand please accept my apology.

 

[Techie1961]

Oh well I guess I am going to have to eat my words. Techie1961, I did not understand why you put the alternator on the rear diff. Now I understand please accept my apology.

No apology needed. I'm not secure in all things but the technical stuff, I'm pretty secure in. When I showed the truck, I had people that loved it and some didn't. To each their own.

 

[jbjke]

Vise and Grinder stands. I'm looking for ideas on how to use several in limit...

So we were cleaning some stuff out of the shop today and found this stand but need some ideas what I should do with it. I had a 6 in bench grinder on the flat plate a few years back but it's shot after using so hard to clean stainless parts with a SS wire wheel. Now it needs a repurpose or a new home.






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[LandofRath]

Re: Vise and Grinder stands. I'm looking for ideas on how to use several in limit...

So we were cleaning some stuff out of the shop today and found this stand but need some ideas what I should do with it. I had a 6 in bench grinder on the flat plate a few years back but it's shot after using so hard to clean stainless parts with a SS wire wheel. Now it needs a repurpose or a new home.


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Could be turned into a small welding table? If you want to keep it original... No idea lol
It's cool what ever it was. Could do a few could things with a bit of modification.

 

[jbjke]

Vise and Grinder stands. I'm looking for ideas on how to use several in limit...

JB & ALL: "to maintain some of the bare steel you might have in your shop might i suggest BLO (boiled linseed oil) and you can keep applying coats as needed. "

So I looked up the BLO on Amazon and looks like everyone raves about this for wood projects like axe handles and such. Not finding any comments on using on steel tables and / or vises??

Last night I picked up another Craigslist find ...... Needs some tlc and maybe some linseed oil?




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[drivesitfar]

Jb: when you have time read what the members are saying and showing pics of their vises on the main vise thread in general tools and the vise repair 101 thread in vintage tools section. You can even clean up that bench with simple green or wd 40 and wd 40 or blo will keep it from rusting but you'll have to re apply every now and again

 

[csp]

Fluid film or Boeshield are far superior to WD40 for long term rust prevention.

 

[drivesitfar]

Csp: i agree but they are a little spendier and less common in members shops.

 

[Fordriver6]

Built this stand a while back but just painted it today since I took off a Columbian 503-m2 and put on a Wilton no. 4. Simply a piece of I-beam welded to a 15" steel wheel and a plate with a bunch of different holes welded on top. In addition to the Columbian and Wilton, it's had a no. 5177 made in Japan exposed screw vise my dad has had since before I was born.





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[torqueman2002]

"Really cool grinder stand" on OWWM, bonus - Block grinder content!

http://owwm.org/viewtopic.php?f=77&t=170134

"I bought a grinder & shop built sander from the estate of a retired Delta Airlines machinist. The grinder is nice & the sander looks like it is well made, but the really cool part are the stands. They are made from scrap aircraft parts. The posts I think are landing gear parts, but I'm not sure about the bases."

 

[drivesitfar]

DOC: what was that stand originally? did the member on the other forum mention it? thanks for sharing.

ALL: I picked up a decent vise and found this stand under it. the old truck rim is full of concrete so old guy was a little surprised when I took the vise off and then lifted the stand into my Honda Pilot in one lift. it was a little more difficult taking it out and putting it in storage.

anyway thanks guys for posting up your vise and grinder stands and anybody else can sure post theirs even if it's close to what has already been posted.

thanks

 

[torqueman2002]

DOC: what was that stand originally? did the member on the other forum mention it? thanks for sharing.

ALL: I picked up a decent vise and found this stand under it. the old truck rim is full of concrete so old guy was a little surprised when I took the vise off and then lifted the stand into my Honda Pilot in one lift. it was a little more difficult taking it out and putting it in storage.

anyway thanks guys for posting up your vise and grinder stands and anybody else can sure post theirs even if it's close to what has already been posted.

thanks

Nice vise and stand, Drives!

I added a description, above.

 

[flyingblind]

WP_20160313_003 by Al Capone, on Flickr

 

[badguy]

Looking good flyingblind.

What's the advantage of bolting it instead of just welding it?

The guy who welded it wasn't too keen on trying to stick steel to cast iron. Not having to lug the whole thing around was nice too.