tweedlestan
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Indeed I was. The task was removing a seacock on a 40-year old sailboat.
easy screwdrivers to warrenty
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Indeed I was. The task was removing a seacock on a 40-year old sailboat.
Snap on is good to me for warranty. If you want cheaper i like fuller pro brand. They are the hard translucent handles. Made in Canada. They sell them at my local hardware store and i believe home depot also. Warranty on them is no questions asked.
fastbike02
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Maybe its bc I am a diy and not a professional but i have never had any luck getting snap on stuff warranted on a truck. I have bought a few item from a local dealer but he has made it clear if it didn't come from him he wasn't gonna replace it! That being said craftsman will replace anything that they can read the name on! I've also had great luck with husky screwdrivers but most of the time i reach for cheap HF bc if i end up beating it with a hammer I'm out a whole 2 bucks
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I had a older Armstrong USA wrench warrantied, and got a Gearwrench replacement and listed it for sale in the classified section....no bites....Won't have a place in my tool box drawer.
malykaii
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http://m.harborfreight.com/8-piece-...t-94607.html?utm_referrer=direct/not provided
I have this set and then completed it with the additional loose sizes they offer. I mean it when I prefer these over my snap-on set. Sure, the s.o. ones are prob made of a better steel and to higher standards, but for daily use and abuse the h.f. truly work.
malykaii
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I'd be too embarased to warranty a $2 tool. Just grab two more.
malykaii
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http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B002N...driver+set&dpPl=1&dpID=41j2I4aQPML&ref=plSrch
https://store.snapon.com/Instinct-1...-Hard-Grip-Green-Screwdriver-Set-P645287.aspx
It's either $55 or $164, and both are snap on.
So if it's one of the best, buy the cheaper set. Of warranty is the issue, but three cheaper sets and self-warranty. (i don't think $21 a screw driver is fair)
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mikebaker1129
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Thanks, I found a few for around $50 and a five piece gor $28.
gdocktor3
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Just for future reference, Husky and Kobalt hard handle screwdrivers are made in USA by the same company who makes Craftsman, Matco, Armstrong, and SK screwdrivers. That company is Western Forge, now owned by Ideal Industries who also owns SK. Ideal Industries also own's Pratt Read, a company who manufactures their own handles, blades and bits which it sells directly to users under its own name, as well as to manufacturers such as Stanley, Snap-on, Danaher, and Klein. Danaher (Apex) also owns Armstrong and Matco Tools. Stanley owns Proto, Blackhawk and Mac. And don't forget Klein. So I don't think I need to say this, but these are all one in the same. You pay for the name.
Richard Cranium
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craftsman is the easiest to warrantee.
sberry
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If I was starting out today wouldn't have a problem with a Sears super sale set to get started. Let's a guy get squared around, can alwas continue to get extra as the need comes up.
gdocktor3
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This is why you guys need to read all the posts. The op stated the screwdriver in question is not carried in Sears stores. Everyone and their mother knows Sears is the easiest place to warranty a screwdriver...
SMKS
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It's not clear that the new Husky drivers are made by WF. It's been discussed in other threads. The new Husky drivers aren't marked "WF" and have some differences from other WF-made drivers.
They might be made by WF, but it's not clear if that's the case or not.
Yes, unfortunately sears has every micro screwdriver known to man, and a somewhat limited supply of normal screwdrivers, which stop at 5/16"...nothing heavy duty by any means. I suppose I will either just buy a few cheapo beater screwdrivers, or give the large Kobalts a try...even though their smaller flat tips snap like a twig...though I can't help but wonder why they ask for my drivers license every time I warranty a tool. I thought it was supposed to be "hassle free"??? The truck brands is not an option for me since I literally never see them, unless I try chasing them down...which defeats the purpose of paying a premium for the service.
gdocktor3
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http://www.wikiwand.com/en/Western_Forge
Western Forge is an American manufacturing company. The company manufactures hand tools to be sold under other brands, including private-label brands such as Craftsman and Husky. It is a subsidiary of Ideal Industries.
Well, that clears that up then...
I'm not sure that clears it up. Wiki sites are edited by people like you and me and have been known to be wrong regularly. Anything Wiki is not an authority, much like any person on an Internet forum is not an authority.
Also, both the husky,Kobalt, and craftsman crewdrivers are known to have recently gone through changes and are no longer made in the USA.
There are plenty of threads here talking about the old USA Kobalts on clearance now and the new ones being Chinese or Taiwanese.
Go look in a Lowe's, you'll see.
gdocktor3
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I go into Lowes and Home Depot all the time and specifically look at the COO. Soft handle comfort grip screwdrivers are made in Taiwan. The hard handles are made in USA.
I don't know what you want. Wikipedia is different than taking info from GJ. I doubt people are logging onto Wiki to change things so they can prove others wrong on here. You don't seem to want to believe anyone, so why not just email Western Forge or Ideal Industries and ask? I am finding multiple sites, not forums, that are saying the same thing about Husky and Western Forge. Unless there is giant conspiracy to hide the COO of Husky hard handle screwdrivers, it's no coincidence all these sites say the same thing. http://america.pink/western-forge_4764821.html
http://www.constructionproz.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=59_273_4305&product_id=278
http://toolslookup.com/browse/hardware/tool/western/forge/.html
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0184WB11M/?tag=atomicindus08-20
fras_auto
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That's crazy....I've warrantied several tools that were easily misused lol it's all in whose behind the counter....get some Carlyle screwdrivers and never worry about the warranty
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Anybody have the address to send
Stanley usa made screwdrivers to?
Cant use the phone
Stanley usa made screwdrivers to?
Cant use the phone
I don't think I would say I don't want to believe anyone as much as I think you are operating on old information. See: http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=319680 for more on the USA Kobalt clearance.
Your wiki post was your response of not believing another member who was trying to explain that things have changed. Is it possible that the wiki information you pulled up is out of date but was originally correct?
Either way,
I don't care enough to argue about it. Apologies if my response upset you.
Your wiki post was your response of not believing another member who was trying to explain that things have changed. Is it possible that the wiki information you pulled up is out of date but was originally correct?
Either way,
I don't care enough to argue about it. Apologies if my response upset you.
gdocktor3
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I think you have to email Proto first. They will mail you a prepaid shipping sticker to put on the box and send in.
gdocktor3
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Sure it may be possible it's outdated, but don't tell me I'm wrong if you don't have any real proof. Especially when you're the one referencing gj threads.I just think people changing or inputting false information on Wikipedia or like sites in regards to the coo of a screwdriver is a little hard to believe. Believe me, responses on here used to upset me when I first joined. This is not directed to you or anyone in particular, but eventually you learn to live with the arrogance and single minded individuals who seem to know everything on here.
SMKS
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Simmer down, gdocktor. No one's calling you dumb or trying to insult you or anything. We're simply pointing out that the new drivers are different than the old WF ones, so it's not clear they're made by WF.
The Husky drivers used to be made by WF. We all know that. They were even marked "WF."
All the things you're linking saying WF makes the screwdrivers are probably referring to the old ones that were clearly made by WF.
The new ones are significantly different and have some features that no other WF drivers seem to have. The new Husky drivers have square shanks on the phillips drivers, which I haven't seen on another WF driver.
Again, they could be made by WF, but there isn't clear evidence that they are.
These are the new drivers in question:
The Husky drivers used to be made by WF. We all know that. They were even marked "WF."
All the things you're linking saying WF makes the screwdrivers are probably referring to the old ones that were clearly made by WF.
The new ones are significantly different and have some features that no other WF drivers seem to have. The new Husky drivers have square shanks on the phillips drivers, which I haven't seen on another WF driver.
Again, they could be made by WF, but there isn't clear evidence that they are.
These are the new drivers in question:
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I think you may have a different understanding of what a wiki page is.
I'm not saying people are falsifying information on purpose. I'm saying that Wiki articles are created by people just like you and me. And they are maintained only by the will of people like you and me.
Just people... On the Internet... Who may be wrong... Or have outdated information.
Go look at your wiki link again and refresh the page. You will see that I edited it to say that they no longer make Husky or Craftsman screwdrivers.I didn't even have to sign in to do that. Feel free to edit my changes.
I'm not even saying your argument is wrong. I'm saying that using a wiki page as a source of fact is as useful as posting your opinion on a forum as a source of fact.
As others have posted, there is evidence that is contrary to the wiki page and there's room for more discussion... Which I believe is the point of a forum...
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Simmer down, gdocktor. No one's calling you dumb or trying to insult you or anything. We're simply pointing out that the new drivers are different than the old WF ones, so it's not clear they're made by WF.
The Husky drivers used to be made by WF. We all know that. They were even marked "WF."
All the things you're linking saying WF makes the screwdrivers are probably referring to the old ones that were clearly made by WF.
The new ones are significantly different and have some features that no other WF drivers seem to have. The new Husky drivers have square shanks on the phillips drivers, which I haven't seen on another WF driver.
Again, they could be made by WF, but there isn't clear evidence that they are.
These are the new drivers in question:
Pratt Read used to make Craftsman screwdrivers also.
supertooljunkie
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Any time I have ever had to warranty a Proto tool, whether it be a socket, ratchet, wrench, extension, screwdriver, I have boxed it up with a downloaded packing slip describing the issue, and mailed it to Proto's warranty center in Conyers, GA. Included on slip is my name, address, phone number and reason for return. Usually with a couple of weeks a replacement will show up from the central warehouse in Concord, NC. I have never had them question a return yet.
gdocktor3
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Ok, I emailed Western Forge and asked them everything I could think of. We shall see what their response is. Until then, this will be my closing argument. I just went down in my garage and compared my brand new Husky screwdriver I got a few weeks ago with my others. The Husky is marked with the part #, USA, and AE. It does not have a WF marking on it. With that said, out of all my new and old screwdrivers, (a sh*t ton) Stanley, Napa, Crescent, Proto, Challenger, Snap On, Pittsburgh, no name Taiwan, not one had an AE or AD marking. The only ones marked with AE/AD were the hard handled Craftsman, SK and the Husky screwdrivers. Soft handle Husky had no markings. I also noticed my Craftsman Professional has a similar scalloped handle design as the new Husky. Now, we know for a fact Western Forge makes the Craftsman and SK screwdrivers that are marked AE. Is it coincidental the Husky screwdriver has the same AE markings made by another company? I cannot confirm for sure, as I can only find info on the AE markings on similar forums that "we" don't trust, but some say it is a production date code. As I said, no other screwdrivers I own have markings like that.
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Thank you. I think that contacting the company is the best way to get some really accurate information on the subject.
To be clear, I hope you are correct. I would be happy to hear that these brands are still made by a US manufacturer.
No matter what, I would suggest we edit that wiki page with whatever we find out. I'll remove my edits for now.
To be clear, I hope you are correct. I would be happy to hear that these brands are still made by a US manufacturer.
No matter what, I would suggest we edit that wiki page with whatever we find out. I'll remove my edits for now.
SMKS
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If it's the same date code sequence Craftsman is using then AE is 2015. I'm attaching a photo to this post of a Sears document.
The date code marking is some interesting evidence that Ideal may make them. I hadn't noticed a date code when I have looked at them.
But if WF (or more correctly Ideal, as Ideal owns WF and Pratt-Read) does make them, why would they use a different square Phillips shank than every other Pratt-Read and WF driver?
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AA-AE are date codes that are used by Western Forge (part of Ideal) and also used by Apex/Danaher/whatever they call themselves now. A few other companies use the same cipher too.
gdocktor3
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Maybe when Ideal obtained Pratt a few years ago they redesigned it. I know that's a gripe for a lot of people when they don't have square or hex shank. Maybe they listened.
If I'm reading that craftsman document correctly, I think it's saying that only ratchets made in Asia will have the date code on them. And only open stock are made in Asia (as of 2011 at least)
If that's true, does it extend to their other tools like single pack screwdrivers?
Obviously those craftsmans and SKs in the pics are from WF/ideal. Do the Craftsman drivers also say USA anywhere?
If that's true, does it extend to their other tools like single pack screwdrivers?
Obviously those craftsmans and SKs in the pics are from WF/ideal. Do the Craftsman drivers also say USA anywhere?