The VISES of Garage Journal

diagnosis · Mar 22, 2016

With the nicer weather finally showing up, I finally was able to get out to the garage and get a start on a couple of the vises that have started to clutter up the bench.

The most recent purchase, Record 83 QR, 3.25" jaws. Will get a teardown, repaint and bolted to the bench. Looking forward to this one!

I picked up the Wilton 600 last year that had been painted bright yellow by the PO. I started scraping the paint off last night, but was able to take a wire wheel to it today at work, and tidied up some of the battle scars.

I wish I could have just saved the OG paint under the yellow, hopefully can track down some of the elusive Rustoleum Verde Green locally.

CrotalusAtrox · Mar 22, 2016

bagged89s10 said:
Rock island should have a date code on top of the slide.

9 of 57........... 9 years 10 months older then me.

Outlawmws · Mar 22, 2016

Z3K3Y said:
ahhh rite on. ya im sure ill see some more details once i get the wire wheel to it. look forward to it actually. looks like it might of been green originally. im gonna try to find a spray as close as possible to the original

you can also look from the bottom for the pins.

I'm pretty sure the original for those was a forest/john deer green or close too it The were the "economy line" as they didn't cone with the reinforcing steel rod(s) (seen pics both ways) the better Parkers came with. So while "economy", they are just as good and any other vise of the day.

Good Buy

xxaler · Mar 22, 2016

diagnosis said:
With the nicer weather finally showing up, I finally was able to get out to the garage and get a start on a couple of the vises that have started to clutter up the bench.

The most recent purchase, Record 83 QR, 3.25" jaws. Will get a teardown, repaint and bolted to the bench. Looking forward to this one!

I picked up the Wilton 600 last year that had been painted bright yellow by the PO. I started scraping the paint off last night, but was able to take a wire wheel to it today at work, and tidied up some of the battle scars.

I wish I could have just saved the OG paint under the yellow, hopefully can track down some of the elusive Rustoleum Verde Green locally.

Tried, it doesn't exist in Ontario. Get ready to pay out the *** for it. :eyecrazy:

GSMotorrad · Mar 23, 2016

mjozefow said:
We have seen everyone's toolboxes so let's see the vises! (no, not vices )

I'm sure there are some really cool ones out there.

Large or small, let's see them all!

Include COO and DOM if you know it!

Wow, some really cool beasts in this thread. Mine was cheap and serves me well. I assume it's made in China and it's about a year old.

TEKTON model #54004 $46.99

It's just nice to have a vise.

drivesitfar · Mar 23, 2016

Diag: I don't know what you think, but the casting on your big Wilton looks awesome and it would do well with BLO on it instead of paint. a month or two ago Joe and Bagged actually put BLO on their vises and baked it on in their little smokers and those vises look amazing.

I guess by what Joe says that the BLO baking will run you out of the shop with the smell or maybe he was talking about something else.

nice looking old QR Record too.

jreb10 · Mar 23, 2016

KMScott said:
Joe, it would not have been to hard to add a little arc to match the end cap radius. A 4-1/2 inch disc sander would take to time at all if you have a lathe. I would not pass up a great deal on a baby because of that difference.

Kevin and Joe, thank you for your thoughts on the untapered end cap. I had thought about shaping it as you describe, and will do so as I clean it up.

Seems there are always some strange things to be learned about Wilton bullets.

Outlawmws · Mar 23, 2016

If its documented those are Factory from Wilton, I'd leave it. They would be even rarer and potentially more valuable to a collector once the provenance is established. Gathering a few examples in pics goes a long way toward that...

jreb10 · Mar 23, 2016

Outlawmws said:
If its documented those are Factory from Wilton, I'd leave it. They would be even rarer and potentially more valuable to a collector once the provenance is established. Gathering a few examples in pics goes a long way toward that...

Good advice. I will be very patient before I make any changes. Thank you.

Of course, now I need to view every Wilton bullet photo I can by scanning eBay to find more examples. What are the odds that I can resist buying some of them. Like waving a red flag in front of a bull....

Outlawmws · Mar 23, 2016

Wasn't that the Baby? that could narrow the search... :evil:

On a serious note; was there a link on the comment "I saw/have one too?" ("Working" no time to look)

drivesitfar · Mar 23, 2016

JREB: that poor BABY vise has been treated terribly in its past and glad to see it found a good home. sort of like a rescue pet.

that front looks a lot like the Cadets so wondering if they tried it on a few BABY bullets first so they wouldn't waste much material. can't say I've seen any like it, but you might PM BLUE FROG because I think he has a shelf full of BABY bullets. also check the Wilton date stamp thread because there are one or two members that might also own six or a dozen of the BABY bullets that might know more.

I smiled more than a little with the viewing of EBAY for pictures was like putting a red flag in front of a bull. :bounce:

sberry · Mar 23, 2016

This thing has some war wounds, its not a collectors item.

slotard · Mar 23, 2016

sberry said:
This thing has some war wounds, its not a collectors item.

Looks like a fairly common China vise.

Fretters · Mar 23, 2016

Always good to see a user, SB.

slotard said:
Looks like a fairly common China vise.

Which has coped with a lot of heavy use, unless I'm mistaken.

CrotalusAtrox · Mar 23, 2016

Really like this Rock Island going to use it and the Parker 974. I spruced it up a bit, not like some of the experts on here but looks better then the pawn shop restoration.

sberry · Mar 23, 2016

slotard said:
Looks like a fairly common China vise.

It may be Taiwan. My Dad toted it home from a farm tractor type store in the mid 70's. Used it a little but never had it right and busticated another older one, in a hurry moved this in to service and it worked so well it never was replaced. We had a cheater on a 48 inch pipe wrench the other day with the pipe vise.
Its all position pipe vise too, I use that a lot.

firworks · Mar 23, 2016

Found this weird looking visevil on CL:

Never seen one like it.

GETRIDAONE · Mar 23, 2016

Here are two more, now you have seen three. Save your money, they look neat but no good as an anvil or a vise. They would do in a pinch if you had nothing else to work with. It is like a cheap homeowners vise to a farmer in the old days.

Sorry those vises are a little dusty ! You can see my finger prints.

firworks · Mar 23, 2016

GETRIDAONE said:
Here are two more, now you have seen three. Save your money, they look neat but no good as an anvil or a vise. They would do in a pinch if you had nothing else to work with. It is like a cheap homeowners vise to a farmer in the old days.

Sorry those vises are a little dusty ! You can see my finger prints.

Oh I wasn't going to go buy it. I just saw it on CL and thought it was interesting. It's in Iowa somewhere I think.

Mark in Indiana · Mar 23, 2016

firworks said:
Found this weird looking visevil on CL:

Never seen one like it.

I'd love to have one as an ornamental vise on my fireplace mantle. However, I've never seen one that isn't broken.

Hemi49 · Mar 23, 2016

Transcontinental Craftsmans

Yesterday I received a shipment from the West Coast with 6 vintage Craftsman items......It arrived via Fastenel® in perfect condition......Today I uncrated the items and tucked them in my garage......Included are 1/3 hp flat top, 1/2 hp round top grinders, 5176, 5163, 5196 & 5197 vises.......I'll eventually get around to spiffing them up and adding them to the collection.....
Hemi

Blue Frog · Mar 23, 2016

Some of you might be interested in this blacksmith collection in Ross County, OH, about 60 miles due south of Columbus.

I'll appreciate if anyone can identify the vise.

http://columbus.craigslist.org/tls/5505188913.html

Blue

LXCam · Mar 23, 2016

Hemi49 said:
Transcontinental Craftsmans

Yesterday I received a shipment from the West Coast with 6 vintage Craftsman items......It arrived via Fastenel® in perfect condition......Today I uncrated the items and tucked them in my garage......Included are 1/3 hp flat top, 1/2 hp round top grinders, 5176, 5163, 5196 & 5197 vises.......I'll eventually get around to spiffing them up and adding them to the collection.....
Hemi

Holy hell hemi, whatta ya do buy someone else's collection?. And congrats too! :rocker:

Hemi49 · Mar 23, 2016

Blue Frog said:
Some of you might be interested in this blacksmith collection in Ross County, OH, about 60 miles due south of Columbus.

I'll appreciate if anyone can identify the vise.

http://columbus.craigslist.org/tls/5505188913.html

Blue

Looks like a 6" Reed swiveler without the swivel......
Hemi

CwazyWabbit · Mar 23, 2016

Blue Frog said:
Some of you might be interested in this blacksmith collection in Ross County, OH, about 60 miles due south of Columbus.

I'll appreciate if anyone can identify the vise.

http://columbus.craigslist.org/tls/5505188913.html

Blue

Stupid comment from an Englishman.... It's a Reed

diagnosis · Mar 23, 2016

drivesitfar said:
Diag: I don't know what you think, but the casting on your big Wilton looks awesome and it would do well with BLO on it instead of paint. a month or two ago Joe and Bagged actually put BLO on their vises and baked it on in their little smokers and those vises look amazing.

I guess by what Joe says that the BLO baking will run you out of the shop with the smell or maybe he was talking about something else.

nice looking old QR Record too.

Thanks for the tip, but unfortunately I just sprayed Tremclad 'Hammered' Silver all over it. :sad:

It would only take 20 mins and the wire wheel to remove the paint and can always try the BLO treatment. I'm really not too impressed with the Tremclad Hammered finish so far (really, it seems to be a metallic silver more than anything) so may change it out sooner than later. :thumbup:

Outlawmws · Mar 23, 2016

Blue Frog said:
Some of you might be interested in this blacksmith collection in Ross County, OH, about 60 miles due south of Columbus.

I'll appreciate if anyone can identify the vise.

http://columbus.craigslist.org/tls/5505188913.html

Blue

I swear that looks like 110R... :wtf:

I need "sharpening" capability..

va.grouseman · Mar 23, 2016

BlueFrog said:
Some of you might be interested in this blacksmith collection in Ross County, OH, about 60 miles due south of Columbus.

I'll appreciate if anyone can identify the vise.

http://columbus.craigslist.org/tls/5505188913.html

Blue

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Be afraid to take a guess with the blurred numbers.---But the size looks like a 208R or a 206R at the least.---Aside from that, if anyone needed all that stuff and could make the drive, that's not a bad deal.

va.grouseman · Mar 23, 2016

Any of you fellows watch this one.---First one I've seen.---Must be the only one made.---It's right neat.---I put in a bid on it that I thought was a fair price.---Turns out I might could have bought 1 jaw insert but nothing more.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/371576782520?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

Hemi49 · Mar 23, 2016

LXCam said:
Holy hell hemi, whatta ya do buy someone else's collection?. And congrats too!

LX
Thanks :bounce:

....The stars were properly aligned and I was able to add some vises I wanted for my modest collection.....I'll provide better photos after I've had some shop time with them.....
Hemi

Fordriver6 · Mar 23, 2016

Hemi49 said:
Transcontinental Craftsmans

Yesterday I received a shipment from the West Coast with 6 vintage Craftsman items......It arrived via Fastenel® in perfect condition......Today I uncrated the items and tucked them in my garage......Included are 1/3 hp flat top, 1/2 hp round top grinders, 5176, 5163, 5196 & 5197 vises.......I'll eventually get around to spiffing them up and adding them to the collection.....
Hemi

Hemi that collection is friggin sweet. Look forward to seeing more pics. [emoji106]

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Outlawmws · Mar 23, 2016

Hmmm. "Transcontinental" ; and Drives claims hes trying to sell some off....

Could be...

bluebolt · Mar 23, 2016

Outlawmws said:
I swear that looks like 110R...

I need "sharpening" capability..

Nah, that first number is a 2, look's like 210 R to me LOL. It is definitely a swivel base missing the base. Oil hole and bulb nose means it's an early "R".

honza.vosalik · Mar 23, 2016

Hemi49 said:
Transcontinental Craftsmans

Yesterday I received a shipment from the West Coast with 6 vintage Craftsman items......It arrived via Fastenel® in perfect condition......Today I uncrated the items and tucked them in my garage......Included are 1/3 hp flat top, 1/2 hp round top grinders, 5176, 5163, 5196 & 5197 vises.......I'll eventually get around to spiffing them up and adding them to the collection.....
Hemi

Beautiful! I recently also purchased the Craftsman 5196 and I just LOVE it! If I ever come across another one (or even 5197, 5198), I won't hesitate a second to buy it.

bluebolt · Mar 23, 2016

Could that Reed be a 216 Filer's vise? Biggest one I found in an advertisement was a 215 but who knows? The jaws do seem a little higher than my Reed 206.

JeremyBurke · Mar 24, 2016

Well clearly our Ohio chapter needs to drive over buy it and take proper pictures for us to drool over. Come on guys get to it. [emoji106]

drivesitfar · Mar 24, 2016

ALL: while we are guessing at big vises how about this one in Albuquerque.

for only a $1000 you can buy this stout steel table, huge vise and an anvil on the other end. any thoughts on the yellow vise? how about that paint job??

Hemi: NICE HAUL

JeremyBurke · Mar 24, 2016

I'm gonna say Yost or columbian on that one. And clearly someone is a DeWalt fan.

Gert · Mar 24, 2016

Hemi49 said:
Transcontinental Craftsmans

Yesterday I received a shipment from the West Coast with 6 vintage Craftsman items......It arrived via Fastenel® in perfect condition......Today I uncrated the items and tucked them in my garage......Included are 1/3 hp flat top, 1/2 hp round top grinders, 5176, 5163, 5196 & 5197 vises.......I'll eventually get around to spiffing them up and adding them to the collection.....
Hemi

Sir, you really have a problem...

There is no room for new acquisitions... :willy_nil

Nice collection ! :rocker:

Shiftless · Mar 24, 2016

Hemi:
Nice score! And again...well built and attractive shelves :beer:

All:
Anybody recognize this vise? Like the Yost but not...
On C/L in Reno for $275

http://reno.craigslist.org/tls/5479679460.html

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