The VISES of Garage Journal

KMScott · Apr 2, 2016

trijeff said:
After a little Spring cleaning

Wow nice baby Prentiss Jeff. We all are jealous.

Evergreentree · Apr 2, 2016

Ford-don't think the columbian is missing a swivel base. Has the 3rd mounting hole under the slide for fixed. I have a 505 near identical. The rest is a $1 fix! Score!

Jeff-sweet piece!

Fordriver6 · Apr 2, 2016

Evergreentree said:
Ford-don't think the columbian is missing a swivel base. Has the 3rd mounting hole under the slide for fixed. I have a 505 near identical. The rest is a $1 fix! Score!

Thanks! [emoji106]

I thought the 600 series Columbians were swivel base while 500 series were fixed base :dunno:

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Evergreentree · Apr 2, 2016

Ford-I dunno...
Definitely looks like my 505, so I just assumed..
Least the set screw is easy to find!

My 505 is my avatar by the way.

Fordriver6 · Apr 2, 2016

Evergreentree said:
Ford-I dunno...
Definitely looks like my 505, so I just assumed..
Least the set screw is easy to find!

The set screw is actually just backed out, still hanging on by a couple threads. Got lucky in that regard. The slide gets tight about 3/4 of the way out, it has been beat on some. Hopefully that will be the only trouble with it. I'll fool with it when I get back home.

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Evergreentree · Apr 2, 2016

Good luck with it ford!

Fordriver6 · Apr 2, 2016

Evergreentree said:
Good luck with it ford!

Thank ya. And for the record it also looks like a 503-m2 I gave to my boss, so I don't know for sure that the 600 series were supposed to be swivel base.

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Evergreentree · Apr 2, 2016

The Colombians are so common to come by in working condition! I've given away more then a few to friends and family as well. Really, now that I'm thinking about it, all vises I've given to friends were Colombians, save for one light duty Wilton. Speaks volumes about their survivability record, in relation to their cost!

va.grouseman · Apr 2, 2016

Trijeff, what inch jaw is your Prentiss?---A 2''er like yours sold for $415.00 and $18.80 shipping on Eprey just recently.---Color and pin stripe was just like yours, only freshly painted.---I got one of those little buggers and Zoomie has a dozen.---I have never seen one of those babies with a split slide, since we are on the subject. :headscrat

jaker10 · Apr 2, 2016

Been having a dry spell finding any vises Around my parts. But I did find this today. Athol M & F Co 624. As soon as it gets a little warmer I start cleaning it up. Looks like it's original paint is battle ship grey. Seems to be in very good shape.

Fordriver6 · Apr 2, 2016

jaker10, that Athol looks to be in amazing shape. Great find!

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partsproduction · Apr 2, 2016

trijeff said:
After a little Spring cleaning

Do you think the pin striping is original? I wouldn't hazard a guess myself.

Outlawmws · Apr 2, 2016

I think it is!

Outlawmws · Apr 2, 2016

va.grouseman said:
Originally posted by Outlawmws.

Just to complete the picture, a Prentise can get that crack without the hammer marks.
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Outlaw, since you brought it up, how do those Prentiss's crack own their own, just by due process of time?---Is it their thin casting?

Thin castings and inherent tensions in the castings post-heat. That and there IS a lift pressure on the tail when the vise is in use. I would imagine that tension would also impart some "spreading" to the end of the slide. One imperfection and a crack can start. :dunno:

a number crunching analysis engineer could probably model it...

Outlawmws · Apr 2, 2016

KMScott said:
My thought is that the gate or the entrance of molten casting wraps around the coring and it meets at the center of the square slide. When the molten casting material meets it has already started setting up and does not bond together like it should. In plastic injected molds we call this the knit line. It is one of the issues in locating a gate area to fill the part. A incorrect gate location placing the knit line in a stress area could cause the plastic part to break. Maybe Riley could chime in with his thoughts.

Another good possibility. :beer:

Combine that with what I described...

drivesitfar · Apr 2, 2016

TJ: AWESOME FIND. I've yet to find a Prentiss vise less than 3 inch jaw for sale in my BIG area I search. looks like yours is in great shape and now you have the baby and great great grand pappy in your stable. you might not post often, but you do post some nice stuff when you do. congrats.

PP: I've seen a few of the Prentiss babies with pin striping so guessing that TJ's is original paint. with all the baby vises you own I would have thought you have at least one baby Prentiss. a fairly new member here on GJ showed me his very very small Prentiss swivel jaw vise and I didn't have a tape, but guessing it was an inch or less jaw width and a working vise.

trijeff · Apr 2, 2016

Thanks guys. Was surprised to find this one locally on CL ... for $25. The jaws are 1-7/8" and I believe this is the original paint, including pinstriping. There is a small chip near one jaw but otherwise this thing is sweet. Patent is 1917, thinking maybe this one was built in 1926 (there is a 26 on the bottom of the slide). It does look nice next to the grandpappy 98, will take pics at some point.

FigureItOut · Apr 2, 2016

Anybody know what this circular notch in the jaws is for?

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RedVise · Apr 2, 2016

Came across this at my first stop, fair price, gave the old fellow a $20 and carried off the vise. Very clean, no abuse.

Brian

honza.vosalik · Apr 3, 2016

Reed 205 R on local CL.
http://goldcountry.craigslist.org/tls/5520354132.html

kunkernator · Apr 3, 2016

Just got done refurbishing my latest Wilton. The gray and orange ones are C0, the black on is a 400N.

Also my main vise, a Yost 204.

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partsproduction · Apr 3, 2016

Was surprised to find this one locally on CL ... for $25. The jaws are 1-7/8"

I saw my first one on ebay a couple months ago, and dreamed ahead myself the winner at $150, dreamed I say because it went much higher than my marriage would withstand.

$25, amazing.

Z3K3Y · Apr 3, 2016

Picked up a couple of Records over the past few days. got a No. 1 and a No. 3 swivel. the No. 3 has some copper jaws on it and the original paint is in pretty decent shape.. makes me happy for the weekend!
Im off to the Antique Tool Show in Pickering Ontario today.. I wont have much money to spend. im planning on adding one to my collection. Ill share what i bring home with you guys tomorrow! but in the mean time heres the two Records i added to my collection. and a shot of the shelf i constructed to put them all on for now. i slipped in a comparison photo with my daily user No. 3 swivel.

GETRIDAONE · Apr 3, 2016

FigureItOut said:
Anybody know what this circular notch in the jaws is for?

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I would say it is a custom made jaw for flaring the same size tube repeatedly. It could be a special jaw the vise manufacture offered for a specific job ?

Hemi49 · Apr 3, 2016

kunkernator said:
Just got done refurbishing my latest Wilton. The gray and orange ones are C0, the black on is a 400N.

Also my main vise, a Yost 204.

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Kunk
Nice job on the bullets...... :bounce:

Hemi

va.grouseman · Apr 3, 2016

Trijeff, here's one I posted on page 1538 that sold on EBay back in 2015 for $443.85 plus shipping, just like yours.---And as I said, Zoomie has a dozen of them.---That's what you call a Visionary.

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=450847&d=1434072363

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=450848&d=1434072363

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=450849&d=1434072363

Craptain · Apr 3, 2016

RedVise said:
Came across this at my first stop, fair price, gave the old fellow a $20 and carried off the vise. Very clean, no abuse.

Brian

Great find Brian. User or collection?

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KMScott · Apr 3, 2016

Here is a $10 Reed in Orange County.

https://orangecounty.craigslist.org/tls/5521037464.html

Fordriver6 · Apr 3, 2016

KMScott said:
Here is a $10 Reed in Orange County.

https://orangecounty.craigslist.org/tls/5521037464.html

That's a friggin steal...wish deals like that happened here in the mountains...

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RedVise · Apr 3, 2016

Craptain said:
Great find Brian. User or collection?

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Had it listed on CL by the end of the day...

Brian

jipps · Apr 3, 2016

Z3K3Y said:
Picked up a couple of Records over the past few days. got a No. 1 and a No. 3 swivel. the No. 3 has some copper jaws on it and the original paint is in pretty decent shape.. makes me happy for the weekend!
Im off to the Antique Tool Show in Pickering Ontario today.. I wont have much money to spend. im planning on adding one to my collection. Ill share what i bring home with you guys tomorrow! but in the mean time heres the two Records i added to my collection. and a shot of the shelf i constructed to put them all on for now. i slipped in a comparison photo with my daily user No. 3 swivel.

Nice additions. Probably worth swapping over those QR swivel bolts from the new 3 on to your daily :thumbup:

exmaxima1 · Apr 3, 2016

Fordriver6 said:
That's a friggin steal...wish deals like that happed here in the mountains...

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In my area, that vise would be gone within the hour (and hopefully by me)

Outlawmws · Apr 3, 2016

RedVise said:
Came across this at my first stop, fair price, gave the old fellow a $20 and carried off the vise. Very clean, no abuse.

Brian

Cool find, great score and you ****! And it's a vise I have never seen from Reed!

Guys, is this a new one for the thread? :headscrat

va.grouseman · Apr 3, 2016

Previously posted by Outlawmws.

Cool find, great score and you ****! And it's a vise I have never seen from Reed!

Guys, is this a new one for the thread?
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You see them on EBay right often.---Nice size home vise though.---They always seemed to be priced too high on EBay, but getting one for $20.00 should cause one to loose sleep.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Antique-Ree...499101?hash=item463afef8dd:g:uj4AAOSwZd1VWnAI

itsDROCK · Apr 3, 2016

itsDROCK said:
Hey guys, looking to buy my first vise. Came across this one on CL. It is from Erie Tool Works. Looks like it says 204 1/2?

What do you guys think? I don't hear this company mentioned as often as others. Asking price is $105.

Thanks for the help guys .. I bought it today for $100. She's purdy!

Z3K3Y · Apr 3, 2016

jipps said:
Nice additions. Probably worth swapping over those QR swivel bolts from the new 3 on to your daily

Yes sir ! thats on my list of things to do today! thanks for the compliments!

partsproduction · Apr 3, 2016

it'sDROCK, that's a find alright.

diagnosis · Apr 3, 2016

Z3K3Y said:
Picked up a couple of Records over the past few days. got a No. 1 and a No. 3 swivel. the No. 3 has some copper jaws on it and the original paint is in pretty decent shape.. makes me happy for the weekend!

I had a hunch this would show up here! I had the message box open and was about to respond when I realized the last thing I needed was another project. At $40, that was a great deal :thumbup:

I actually sold my Woden No.2 to 'ive', on Kijiji yesterday to a fellow GJ'er yesterday, and was really happy to see it go to such a great home.

Speaking of Records, I had a chance this week to finish up the No.83 I've been working on. This is how it started out, complete with it's distinct hickory smoked scent:

I tore it down, wire wheeled, scraped and degreased everything, threw some paint at it, and ended up with this:

I touched up the embossed lettering with some silver paint, leaving the 'Made In England' in blue, as half of it had been ground off.... I think this may have been done before leaving the factory, as the casting and original assembly is quite lopsided...

You can see from the picture that the jaws, and the rear main screw centering hole are offset, which leads me to believe the country of origin was ground down a little for clearance. Still, it works very well, even though it's personality leans a little to the left.

This one's definitely getting bolted to the bench :beer:

Evergreentree · Apr 3, 2016

Diag-Or bolt it to your kitchen counter?

Sweet vise!

Itsd- is there a center bolt lock down on your new old beauty?

joe.striper · Apr 3, 2016

RedVise said:
Came across this at my first stop, fair price, gave the old fellow a $20 and carried off the vise. Very clean, no abuse.

Brian

Brian, thats interesting. I saw the exact same vise, color and everything, in NH last week but passed on it...damn, now i regret not picking it up. They are VERY handsome in person.

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