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Cryptic1911

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Posted this on another forum, just copy & pasting the contents:

Starting a "build" thread for an addition thats going on to the house.. it's going to have an oddly shaped ~12x18 connector, and a 30x30 garage, both two story. Going to have a wide open loft area up top with vaulted ceilings for living space, and an open garage on the bottom with a lift and 12ft ceilings. There's already a 24x24 garage with a loft on the lot, but thats going to be a big shed and motorcycle storage area. The new part is going to be for working on cars only

The first pic is from last winter of the end where the addition is going. We had to tear down the old porch area since that slab is being taken out for the new foundation and all that.

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I would have some other pics here that I thought I took yesterday, but I think I was too exhausted and forgot to actually turn the camera on or something.. either way, I don't have any real in progress pics.

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Here's the floor and the roof section that we cut off. We had already taken the walls away to my sisters house so they could burn it in the bonfire.

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The roof was a pain in the ***, had to knock off the support beams, then cut between the planks with a sawzall to get through the two layers of shingles and tar paper to make them into managable sized pieces

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and here it is all cleared. They are supposed to start tearing up the yard tomorrow, so I'll get some pics of that.

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Here's the flat tire we got while dropping off the scrap wood at my sisters house.. the bead on the wheel just tore somehow. It was so much fun changing a tire on the truck after spending two days demolishing a porch:

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Here's part of the porch getting torched:

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Ok today they came in with a skidsteer and an excavator and tore up some of the yard, as well as removing the 62yr old concrete slab (real pain in the ***), and digging part of the footings for the connector area. They are coming in tomorrow with a couple triaxles of fill, and then are going to dig the footing for the garage area

first pic is part of the plans for the downstairs.. the crooked part on the right is the existing house.. its at a weird angle compared to the street, and the town wanted us to be 30ft (29 now that they widened the road after we got the permits) all the way across, so that means that the garage is going to be at an angle vs the house.. which leaves us with a triangular shaped connector in the middle:
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this pic is part of the plans for the upstairs. its going to be wide open on both floors, so it'll be a big loft:

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They showed up around 8:30 this morning with the dumptruck, a skidsteer, and an excavator:

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You can see the existing 24x24 garage on the lot in this pic with their equipment:
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That slab that used to house a screenporch that we later closed in apparently wasn't just a slab.. they had actual footings, and it was a total ***** to break up with the jackhammer:

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They had to bust out the center, then get part of the footing busted up so that they could dig out the dirt in the middle and break the footing away with the excavator:

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Here's part of what they dug out:

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Once all the 60+ yr old concrete was gone, it was on to digging:

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Tomorrow they will be digging the footings for the 30x30 garage area
 
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The guys came back today and started digging the trench for the footings for the garage:

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Got a triaxle of fill to spread out in the center where the slab will be, and some down in where the footings will go:

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The last thing they did before the monsoon came was string up the posts to square everything up for the footing forms that are going in tomorrow and getting poured. should have foundation walls on thursday if everything goes as planned

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Looks like a great project.

You are doing a great job on documenting your progress with photos.

Keep us posted.

I did an addition also and when I finally had the permits and slab in I felt like I was half done.
 
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They were back this morning, and were just finishing up putting in the forms for the footings when I left for work.. they should be poured by the time I get home
 
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When I left for work in the morning they already had the footing forms just about done:

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I got home and the footings were poured and curing.. foundation walls should go up tomorrow

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they are making good time so far.. cant wait for wood to start going up! :shocking:
 
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Looking great so far. Can't wait to see the wood going up either :bounce:

Is that a groove through the middle of the footer? If so, is it to lock in the block and mortar? Never seen that done before.
 
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i believe its so that when they pour the foundation walls on top, they have a ridge on the bottom so that they get locked into the footings. not that they are gonna really go anywhere, but i've seen it done a few times.

when I left this morning, they were putting up forms for the walls.. those should be up on the square garage footing today, tomorrow they are gonna pour the two small connector walls

they are also supposed to be digging out some stumps around the yard, as well as tearing out the front walkway, and the existing driveway
 
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Fast work, looking good thus far.

One question, are there going to be windows on the 'back' of the garage to match the front of the house? Will surely look like a car-house when done :thumbup:
 
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nah, not going to have any windows in the garage area downstairs. dont want people being able to see in the windows. upstairs there will be some windows, and in the connector there will be some up and down to make it a bit more presentable
 

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I see, I also see that you have two 'fronts' and the one I thought was the front was really the back-door. I think I see it now ;)
 
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The cement guys came back today and removed the forms from yesterday, formed up the two connector walls, and poured. The one thing I noticed was the cutouts for the garage doors are a little bowed (looks like the cement didn't come all the way to the bottom of the board), but I think that will be ok because they can make up the height when they do the slab. I think we've made great progress so far.. 5 days from breaking ground to having foundation walls poured

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the holes were backfilled today, still need to be compacted though. they also tore up a few stumps and things around the yard.

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Any updates??

not really, but we did drill some holes in the inner foundation wall to run some conduit since we decided to backfeed the old house from the new panel on the addition. The conduit should be dropped in today. I think the slab will be poured soon as the builder called yesterday and he said he should be ready to start building in about 3 weeks.

also got materials quotes, he said about $15k for materials not including the windows and shingles since he wasnt sure which type we wanted, but the windows are gonna run like 6k. thats not including drywall, insulation or siding.. going to have to do siding on the new and old, plus windows in the old. I think we'll make it with the money thats left.

I'll post up more pics as we get some actual progress
 

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nah, not going to have any windows in the garage area downstairs. dont want people being able to see in the windows. upstairs there will be some windows, and in the connector there will be some up and down to make it a bit more presentable

The drawback to windows is giving up all that shelf-space along the walls.

Great build and clearly documented! I look forward to seeing the results.

Shawn

My Garage: http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=28505
 
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Cript, Just a thought about the second floor tie-in area..... You might consider access to the second floor of the existing house so you can access the second floor area of the garage from there. I guess it depends on what you are planning for the second floor of the garage.
 
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theres a bedroom on that wall of the old house

had cement trucks at the house at 6:15 this morning pouring the slab.. will post pics later
 
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Ok here's the pics from this morning when the slab was poured

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don't mind the conduit half sticking in the cement :laugh: that was a goof on our part when we drilled the holes in the cement.. we measured wrong, so it was slightly low. doesnt really matter since there will be 2x8 framing on the floor there to give us room for the conduit and plumbing into the old part of the house

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Its 6-7" 3500psi with fibermesh and chickenwire on top of 6 mil plastic. Its pitched about 1 1/4" to the front
 
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Nice Build so far... are you putting a bathroom in there? maybe in the connector part?

The stick building hasnt started yet.. I think they are starting on Monday? been ******* with another job because of the delays we had in getting the cement poured, so they took another job in between.

Yeah, There's going to be a toilet / laundry room in the back half of the connector.. front half is going to have an outside door, door to garage + old house, and stairs going upstairs..breezeway I guess you would call it, and then there will be an apartment over the garage. It's gonna be pretty cool.. open loft with vaulted ceilings. I'll get some pics up as soon as I have some new ones
 

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Nice! I like the design a lot with the breezeway and all. Nice Vw's too, looks like they will have a fine space to be worked on when this is finished. :thumbup:

In for more pics! :)
 
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I was a bit off in the start date for the stick building, so its just a slab for right now. They've ordered the materials, so I think possibly in the next week or week and a half they should be starting

curt_pnw, thanks, nice corrado.. I used to have a 90 g60 myself.. would much rather have had an slc with a vr6 though.. one of my fav motors. I've had 4 of them so far. hopefully going to rebuild a 95 gti that i have into a vr6 turbo in the future
 
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since there are a few vw people in the thread, I'll post up some quick info and pics of the cars:

2008.5 gti - 2.0t TSI motor, APR stage2+ flash, APR intercooler (****** huge - bigger than most radiators), 42dd 3" catless downpipe, Autotech 3" exhaust, BSH intake, BSH pendulum mount, Koni coilover suspension, Miro stp3 19x8.5 rims, Newsouth gauge pod w/ boost, oil temp and exhaust gas gauges.

2007 Jetta 2.5l 5cyl motor, C2 motorsports stage2 turbo kit w/ t3/t4 .60/.81 hybrid turbo, Awe tuning exhaust, Seamless motorsports billet valve cover, Koni yellow shocks, Vogtland springs, Neuspeed ****** mount insert, 19x8" Audi RS4 rims, Newsouth column pod w/ boost gauge, Votex bodykit (oem VW). As far as we know, its the only 2.5 turbo Jetta in the country. Everyone else has 2.5 turbo Rabbits

both cars haul balls and have been 145+mph without breaking too much of a sweat. I want to go stage3 on my gti though.. 385ft/lbs of tq at 3500rpm from a 2l 4cyl motor is insane

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You are unique. I am on my second Jetta. I HATE these unreliable heaps of plastic Mex parts. Only on my second because it was given to me. You can't polish a turd but that garage is gona be SWEET!
 
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You are unique. I am on my second Jetta. I HATE these unreliable heaps of plastic Mex parts. Only on my second because it was given to me. You can't polish a turd but that garage is gona be SWEET!

hm, too bad you had a crappy experience, I've found them to be the most fun and rewarding cars to own. I've owned 6 VW's and an Audi S4, and I won't buy anything else. I don't find them to be any more unreliable than any other car.. nothing is perfect.. just gotta know how to maintain them properly
 

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hm, too bad you had a crappy experience, I've found them to be the most fun and rewarding cars to own. I've owned 6 VW's and an Audi S4, and I won't buy anything else. I don't find them to be any more unreliable than any other car.. nothing is perfect.. just gotta know how to maintain them properly


agreed. i have owned 15 vw's and would not own anything else.
 
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Progress!

The builder showed up today and got 3 walls up.. its looking quite tall already, and thats only the garage floor.. LOL.. gonna be roughly 12'6" to the bottom of the floor joists for the 2nd floor

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They got the rest of the walls up and also got up some plywood sheathing today. In the pics, the side door sheathing hasn't been fully trimmed out, and they still had to trim 2ft over the top of the garage doors since they accidentally framed them in as 10ft tall doors instead of 8ft... OOPS :lol_hitti guess we'll just have to get another panel for the garage doors now.. thinking about it, it'll look a bit better since the downstairs walls are quite high anyways

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