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"tooth count wars" Matco 88!

autoace

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I was just reading my new Motor Age magazine, seems Matco just came out with an 88 tooth ratchet series............................a few pages later I saw Snap-on has a swivel head 100 tooth ratchet:headscrat hmmm. Guess maybe I wasn't dumb in waiting to buy a Snap-on 80 series, since Matco now holds the tooth count record in slim head, 3/8 ratchets. Snap-on 100 tooth count is only in the one pivot head style, that I cannot stand.

We will have to compare the SO 80 to the Matco 88!
 
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LGMechanical

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I doubt you can actually feel any difference from 8 more teeth. I was doing front brakes and seals on an old Ford F600 today and I was using my SLFH80 to tighten the axle nut and It felt like the ratchet was about to break. I got kind of worried and just grabbed the 3/4" el cheapo ratchet.

One of my genious co-workers has the same ratchet but with the locking head and he decided it was a good idea to tighten a frame bolt with his impact gun while holding the other end with his ratchet. Broke instantly. Then he goes for the breaker bar. What popped into his mind, I dunno.
 
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autoace

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How many teeth does your wife have? Do you feel that she needs more? Do you feel the need to replace her because of this?

She has all of her teeth, she used to be a ****, young, sweet thing...............................I think I hear her screeching now, argh, it's like being Charlie Brown listening to his teacher.:shocking:
 

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The one really cool thing about the new Matco 88's over the Dual80's is that you can put the 88 tooth kits in the old 60 tooth ratchet body's.
 

Diesel-Mech

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My Matco dealer doesn't have any in stock yet. Do they have a quick release button?
AFAIK just like the MATCO and Armstrong versions of the 60 tooth ratchets they wont have a quick release, they are just now hitting the trucks starting with the 3/8" ratchets from what Dave said on here.
 
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I've noticed my dual 80s has a definite, different "feel" to them; compared to my 36 tooth 900 and earlier series ratchets. I'm wondering if this sense that they are "weaker" is psychological; while I haven't gone crazy with them or used breaker bars on them, so far they have been great. I do know the secure feeling that the 36 tooth ratchets give you; this probably factors into this "feeling". Since, most of use have used and grown up with the courser toothed ratchet for so long. So much of tool usage, appreciation and use of force to get the job done... is based upon this tactile "feeling"; to change this, is a big difference and takes some getting used to. Many, on here swear the dual 80s are weaker.... time will tell but Snap-On's own in house R/D seems to proven otherwise. You can research and do R/D all day but the "feel" of something is different, then any specification or ft. lb. rating can provide...
 

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I don't pay attention to tooth count on air ratchets


time is money


Hey Spider - You are always referring to your air power, let's see a thread with some pics of all of your air power that brings in the money for you! I would like to see the tools you have at your disposal for speed. :thumbup:


On topic: Can't wait to update my 60 tooth ratchets to 88...I love the 60 Tooth ratchets (Frequently I'll grab them over my Dual 80s) They are lower profile and I like the handles..pics by request
 

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The demo unit that came in today is a 1/2 drive. The pawl has 17 teeth. I snapped some pics & will post them in the morning. I'm still waiting for my ratchets.

You bastid!! :lol_hitti

Still waiting on mine.......oh, and let me know when you want the catalogs paid back :thumbup:
 
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autoace

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I'm real excited about the 88, I like the handles on the Matco ratchets...........pretty much the same shape as Armstrong. I don't buy from Snap-on unless I have to. Cornwell has no fine tooth ratchets, glad Matco will.

I have always had to deal with Matco, online and they have always been good. No Matco dealers up here in my area.
 

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You bastid!! :lol_hitti

Still waiting on mine.......oh, and let me know when you want the catalogs paid back :thumbup:


Not worried about the catalogs. My invoice for the ratchets came in overnight. I guess that means I'll have them in Tuesday or Wednesday. My fingers are crossed.
 

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Here's the "Demo Block" It's designed to show that our ratchet will work in this tight spot while others won't.

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Here's the "Demo Tool" it's designed to show the internal workings.

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This last one is for Merk! This is the best pics I could get of the pawl. I counted 17 teeth.

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