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I do think I can fit one more in there someplace...

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Scott, I'm sure you can fit more than ONE more in there!
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That is a basement! I was thinking garage door was on back but I see opposite end of house. Looks like you had a nice wood shop before the tractors started having babies.

Future use of basement? Since we have the Aussie 1/2 Cup West Wing GJ B&B, looks like a good spot for the U.S. Southeast GJ B&B:lol_hitti
 
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Scott, I'm sure you can fit more than ONE more in there!
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Bob,

Hmmm....

After seeing that picture I realize that I really didn't need to build the Lone Beech Garage after all. It's just a matter of using the space in the basement more efficiently.

Ha!

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Scott
 
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That is a basement! I was thinking garage door was on back but I see opposite end of house. Looks like you had a nice wood shop before the tractors started having babies.

Future use of basement? Since we have the Aussie 1/2 Cup West Wing GJ B&B, looks like a good spot for the U.S. Southeast GJ B&B:lol_hitti

shortykorte,

I think I will try to monetize the free space in the basement in a different manner than a B&B. I shall build The Mother Of All Airline Crash Pads.

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Ha!

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I can pick a Zaxby's logo out from a mile away, that is one of my favorites. I'm just glad I have a high metabolism.
 
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Wednesday - May 18, 2016

I am the president of a small non-profit corporation and I had to meet with another member of the Board of Directors at 9:30 this morning to do some corporate business. Of course that's about the time the Floor Finishing Crew arrived. When I returned about an hour and a half later they were gone.

I received a phone call from the Owner of the Floor Finishing Business shortly after I got home. He let me know that they had applied the second coat of the densifier and they would return tomorrow to do the final bit of grinding of the floor.


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After the phone call I went out and took a few pictures. Probably the only thing less exciting than watching paint dry is watching densifier dry.




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I did do a little work on the Youngstown Double Sink Cabinet today. I got it set up to attempt a JB Weld repair of the one sink's drain area. As I researched the possible repair options on the internet, I learned that one can add acetone to JB Weld to make it more liquid. That will be useful for this repair attempt. I think "thinning" JB Weld this way lengthens the curing time but it should make it easier to get it to flow into the "mold" area.


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I don't know what densifier is. Although I guess it is good if you are using it. Just from the name and without google, does it make a hard layer on top of the concrete?


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I don't know what densifier is. Although I guess it is good if you are using it. Just from the name and without google, does it make a hard layer on top of the concrete?
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AZpilot,

I hope you are right about the "...it is good if you are using it..."!

We shall see.

I believe you are correct that the densifier chemically reacts with the surface of the existing concrete to create a harder surface.

Best regards,

Scott
 
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neat trick with the acetone. thx. i can use that one.

jim

Jim,

We'll see how it works. I came across the technique on a YouTube video of a guy making a JB Weld ring in a mold.

I then did a Google search "JB Weld Acetone" looking for folks that might have tried this and had some feedback on the strength and such. To my surprise, one of the Google "hits" was the FAQ of the JB Weld Website indicating it was OK to use acetone - and lacquer thinner - to "thin" their product.

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Scott
 
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You need some JB waterweld!

HemiRamOn22s,

My thinking is that I'm not trying to plug a leak... I'm trying to build a flange for the drain system to sit on. If the flange works, the plumbers putty should deal with any water trying to escape.

We'll see.

My son was sanding the top of a dresser today and I turned the garage over to him to accomplish that. I hope to attempt a repair of the sink either tomorrow or over the weekend.

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Scott
 
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Thursday - May 19, 2016


The densifier that had been applied yesterday had soaked into the concrete and The Floor Finishing Crew continued their work today.



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The last grinding was done in the Woodshop...




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...and the Auto-machine Shop.




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The floor was vacuumed but there wasn't quite enough time to get that completed before the crew left for the day.




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However almost everything is done. The Floor Grinding machines won't be needed tomorrow so they are stationed to be moved out of the building and some of the extension cords were stowed in the crew's trailer as well.

Tomorrow the last bit of the vacuuming will be done followed by a wipe-down of the floor with denatured alcohol. After that's dry, the sealer will be applied.


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Just wondering how the final floor will look. Splotchy or smooth and no splotches?
 
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Just wondering how the final floor will look. Splotchy or smooth and no splotches?

AZpilot,

Based on what I'm observing at this particular point, I expect the concrete to look a bit mottled.

Time will tell...

Best regards,

Scott
 
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Friday - May 20, 2016


This morning the Floor Finishing Crew arrived on the building site under grey and threatening skies.



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Any remaining dust was vacuumed and/or blown out of the building with a leaf blower. A wipe down with denatured alcohol followed.




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As the floor dried the sealer was brought out.




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The Sealer was applied in a fine mist onto the concrete with a pump sprayer and then "mopped" with a microfiber applicator. Cracks and crevices were given hand treatment with a chip brush. The crew started in the southeast corner of the Woodshop and worked their way to the northwest side of the Auto-Metal Shop.

Then the crew left for a few hours. They returned at about 6:30 pm - after the first application had soaked into the concrete - and put down another layer of sealer.

That ended the work of the Floor Finishing Crew.




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Yesterday Zoro.com had a 25% off sale. I took advantage of the sale and ordered some items. Amazingly, just a bit over 24 hours after I placed the order, it was delivered this evening. Included in the order was a couple of Miller 300517 NEMA 14-50P to NEMA 6-50R Adapter Cords. This will allow me to use the RV outlets in the Lone Beech Garage for a Welder or Plasma Cutter.


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Looking good! Will be interesting to see how the floor looks tomorrow. This seems to be the last task so move time Memorial Day weekend?
 
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Looking good! Will be interesting to see how the floor looks tomorrow. This seems to be the last task so move time Memorial Day weekend?

shortykorte,

Your question got me to thinking...

There are a few things to go but nothing that would interfere with starting the migration.

Then I realized it might be best to wait until the final inspection is complete. I don't know how the inspector would take it if he/she arrived and found "stuff" inside the Lone Beech Garage prior to his/her blessing.

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Scott
 
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shortykorte,

Your question got me to thinking...

There are a few things to go but nothing that would interfere with starting the migration.

Then I realized it might be best to wait until the final inspection is complete. I don't know how the inspector would take it if he/she arrived and found "stuff" inside the Lone Beech Garage prior to his/her blessing.

Best regards,

Scott

There's a final inspection? When I built my shop, I get a call a year later asking if I'm done. I said yes, so clerk closed permit. :dunno:

I guess when the GC gets final payment, it's yours. :thumbup:
 
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There's a final inspection? When I built my shop, I get a call a year later asking if I'm done. I said yes, so clerk closed permit. :dunno:

I guess when the GC gets final payment, it's yours. :thumbup:

shortykorte,

I'm pretty sure the County Tax Assessor considers it mine now. Ha!

Maybe I misspoke regarding a "final" inspection.

The builder has indicated that there's at least one more inspection involving the railing on the stairs to the Mezzanine. He is anticipating that there will be requirements for some railing around the loading dock and also, of course, the concrete steps around the building. Rather than have the railing installers make multiple visits there will be an attempt to define what railing is required and then install it all at once.

I'll talk to the Builder this coming week and clarify this issue.

Best regards,

Scott
 
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Saturday - May 21, 2016

The scaffolding & walk boards that had been on site during most of the interior work of the Lone Beech Garage belong to me. I brought them out of the basement for the use of the various crews because it would be safer and more efficient for the men to use them and I'd be paying for a rented set anyway if the builder decided to make scaffolding available for some phase of the project.

The scaffolding was appreciated by the workers that made use of it but it also got completely clobbered by the drywall crews. The walk boards were absolutely covered with drywall compound dust and the scaffolding & casters needed a thoroughly cleaning as well as I intend to used them on my newly treated floors.

The weather today was breezy with moderate temperature and cloudy skies. Some of the clouds, as they rolled across the sky, came with gusts of wind and a threatening appearance. It was perfect weather to pressure wash the scaffolding paraphernalia as well as some other stuff that needed a good cleaning - my Aluma Utility Trailer in particular.

By the time all the cleaning was completed, it was early evening.


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I stepped out to the Lone Beech Garage and took pictures of the treated floors.


I'll answer the obvious question, "Does it look like you expected it to?"

I'd say no. When the process started, I was expecting a more uniform appearance in the floor. I don't dislike it - it's just not what I expected going in. As the treatment progressed I could see it was not going to be a uniform color throughout so I had gotten used to the idea by the end of the work.

Since my goals for my concrete floor were...

1. Cleaned
2. Densifier
3. Sealed

...and these goals were achieved without turning the floor into a pink paisley color, I am happy with the outcome.

I can understand if others feel differently.


Scott
 
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Saturday - May 21, 2016

The scaffolding & walk boards that had been on site during most of the interior work of the Lone Beech Garage belong to me. I brought them out of the basement for the use of the various crews because it would be safer and more efficient for the men to use them and I'd be paying for a rented set anyway if the builder decided to make scaffolding available for some phase of the project.

The scaffolding was appreciated by the workers that made use of it but it also got completely clobbered by the drywall crews. The walk boards were absolutely covered with drywall compound dust and the scaffolding & casters needed a thoroughly cleaning as well as I intend to used them on my newly treated floors.

The weather today breezy with moderate temperature and cloudy skies. Some of the clouds, as they rolled across the sky, came with gusts of wind a threatening appearance. It was perfect weather to pressure wash the scaffolding paraphernalia as well as some other stuff that needed a good cleaning - my Aluma Utility Trailer in particular.

By the time all the cleaning was completed, it was early evening.


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I stepped out to the Lone Beech Garage and took pictures of the treated floors.


I'll answer the obvious question, "Does it look like you expected it to?"

I'd say no. When the process started, I was expecting a more uniform appearance in the floor. I don't dislike it - it's just not what I expected going in. As the treatment progressed I could see it was not going to be a uniform color throughout so I had gotten used to the idea by the end of the work.

Since my goals for my concrete floor were...

1. Cleaned
2. Densifier
3. Sealed

...and these goals were achieved without turning the floor into a pink paisley color, I am happy with the outcome.

I can understand if others feel differently.


Scott

I like it, maybe you will find an image of Elvis or something in there. Should be fun to see it start filling up.
 

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Be patient, your concrete appearance will become more uniform as it cures in my experience.
 

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Scott,

How did you come to this decision for your floor finishing? I am just now starting to explore the different avenues for finishing a garage floor and hadn't really been looking in this direction. Your input would be of great value.

Thanks,

Wayne

P.S. Amazing work! Not only on the garage but this in depth build blog!

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Scott,

How did you come to this decision for your floor finishing? I am just now starting to explore the different avenues for finishing a garage floor and hadn't really been looking in this direction. Your input would be of great value.

Thanks,

Wayne

P.S. Amazing work! Not only on the garage but this in depth build blog!


Wayne,

Thanks for the kind words!

Regarding the floor...

I was looking for a minimalist floor. I seriously considered doing nothing - other than a good cleaning - of the concrete.

After some research using a densifier seemed to make sense for what I had in mind.

Then the subject of sealers came up...

This seemed compelling as a way to minimize staining. As I continued my research, I saw reports of gasoline spills and such causing the sealer to turn into a gummy material. I spoke with the folks that made the sealer on my floor and they felt that if a gasoline spill was wiped up reasonably quickly there shouldn't be a problem.

In the end I decided to go with a sealer for the protection from oil stains and I'll be as careful as possible with gasoline.


Best regards,

Scott
 
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Sunday - May 22, 2016

The question of when the tools will start moving into the Lone Beech Garage was answered today. Like many of the best things in life this just sorta happened.

Last Friday afternoon I happened to stumble across a Craigslist ad for a Powermatic 1150 Drill Press. The price seemed attractive so I contacted the seller.

As we discussed the Drill Press I decided it was worth the hour and a half drive to go look at it. When I asked when it might be possible to see it the seller answered, "Sunday". We agreed that I would call him today at around 12:30 pm to finalize the rendezvous.

When I called he indicated that 6 pm would be a good time for him. My son and I drove to his house and I looked over the tool. Although it had a couple of issues, I thought it would be OK for the advertised price. I handed him the money and we loaded the thing into my pickup.

As we drove home my son asked the logical question, "Where are we going to unload this thing?" While I hadn't planned to put anything in the new building yet, putting it somewhere else and then dragging it to the Lone Beech Garage just didn't make any sense.



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We pulled in front of the middle garage door as the light was fading on this glorious May day.





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The Drill Press had survived the trip without any new harm coming to it.




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My son and I wrestled the thing to the end of the pickup's bed and then lowered it so that it stood upright in front of the garage door. We walked the tool the remaining few feet to its new home between the middle garage door and the northwest garage door.

I don't anticipate another tool coming to stay in the building for a little while ...but then I didn't anticipate what happened today either.


Scott
 
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It is one of Newtons laws. An empty shop will not last and a wallet will not stay full as long as the shop has space. Congrats on the first arrival!
 

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My son and I wrestled the thing to the end of the pickup's bed and then lowered it so that it stood upright in front of the garage door. .

I was hoping the I-beam would get a first job taking a machine tool out of the truck :) In any case, nice machine, very few drill presses are made like that any more.
 
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It is one of Newtons laws. An empty shop will not last and a wallet will not stay full as long as the shop has space. Congrats on the first arrival!

I was hoping the I-beam would get a first job taking a machine tool out of the truck :) In any case, nice machine, very few drill presses are made like that any more.

Thanks guys! The machine has issues - perhaps some yet to be discovered - but I think they can be overcome and I'll have a very nice drill press when it's all said and done.

My son and I discussed using the chain hoist to unload the Drill Press.

When the floors were being finished the control pendant and the power cord were secured out of the way by wrapping them around the hoist itself. They're still up there. We would have had to rebuild the scaffolding - which we just got cleaned up for this sort of thing yesterday - and then prepared the hoist for action.

No doubt about it, I was attracted to this idea but it was getting late and we were both getting hungry.

Brute force prevailed.

Best regards,

Scott
 

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I have found that a good quality refrigerator dolly, one with the fold out extra frame and wheels, is indispensable for machine moving. The one I have will lift anything I can get over center. I have moved a Harig grinder, a powermatic 20" bandsaw and a Hardinge DV59 lathe with it fairly easily, although I end up standing on the swing out frame to get it to pivot up onto the wheel of the dolly on the really big stuff.

nice drill, once you get it sorted it will be dead useful
 
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I have found that a good quality refrigerator dolly, one with the fold out extra frame and wheels, is indispensable for machine moving. The one I have will lift anything I can get over center. I have moved a Harig grinder, a powermatic 20" bandsaw and a Hardinge DV59 lathe with it fairly easily, although I end up standing on the swing out frame to get it to pivot up onto the wheel of the dolly on the really big stuff.

nice drill, once you get it sorted it will be dead useful

LutzTD,

I am familiar with appliance dollies but you may be describing something different. Can you post a picture?

Thanks for the encouragement on the drill. The "once you get it sorted out" comment is very appropriate. When I took the belt cover off I found a surprise! More on that later but it wasn't a good surprise.

Best regards,

Scott
 
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Tuesday - May 24, 2016

It has been quiet on the building site. Taking advantage of that - and the gorgeous weather we are having at the moment - I accomplished a couple of things today.

The '50's era Youngstown Sink Cabinet - planned to be the Mezzanine's Kitchenette Sink - has many issues. Today I tackled one of them.



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The center door of the Sink Cabinet has a shelf for detergent and such. It was a rusty mess!




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The Door just would fit into my sad but serviceable blasting cabinet. Now just because something will fit in a blasting cabinet doesn't mean you can work with it. What a pain! However, I did manage to clean up the little shelf and now I believe the rest of the door can be prepped for paint.



Since today was blasting day I decided to take on a long overdue project.




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Almost exactly a year ago a acquired a Yost 33C vise via a local Craigslist ad. Picture on the left is the Vise as I received it. It had issues - one of which was no handle. I dealt with most of the glaring problems in the couple of weeks following the purchase. At that point the Lone Beech Garage began to take center stage and I sat the vise aside. Finally got around to blasting the Vise today (right picture). I'll get some primer on it tomorrow.

When the refurbishment is complete, this vise will get a place of honor in the Lone Beech Garage.


Scott
 
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LutzTD,

I am familiar with appliance dollies but you may be describing something different. Can you post a picture?

Thanks for the encouragement on the drill. The "once you get it sorted out" comment is very appropriate. When I took the belt cover off I found a surprise! More on that later but it wasn't a good surprise.

Best regards,

Scott

I have this one, 1200lb capacity. its a workhorse. for smaller stuff I have an old hard wheel magliner which is all aluminum and very light and strong. I see both types every now and then on Craigs.
 

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