Specifically 1/2 in impacts. My ir2235timax could not take off a lug but on a Ford Expedition without tightening Down 2 other lug Nuts to relieve pressure. Really aggravated me, when I bought it. I believed it to be the best around. I've heard lots of great things about the Matco mt2769. Wondering what you guys use
Impact wrench recommendations
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tody009
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there is something wrong with your air supply, or your air supply.. possibly even your air supply. a 2235timax will take off anything you point it at.
Yeah I normally agree. My shop has never had this problem before tho. I was using this at work where we have two pretty hefty professional air compressors. I was blown away. Maybe a defect with my gun? Seemed fine the rest of the day tho. Ripped everything else apart that day
I have a suspicion that hose is messed up in that bay. Still I would like recommendations
KMdef9
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If my 1/2 IR, doesn't get it done, I grab my 3/4 IR (2145) and it always take care of it.
Not what you asked for, but I doubt you'll find an impact that is that much stronger than 2235.
Not what you asked for, but I doubt you'll find an impact that is that much stronger than 2235.
Rich.
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2235 is in my opinion the best 1/2" gun out there, swapping to something else is probably going to give you even more disappointment. What pressure are your regs set to? What bore is your air line? What fittings are you using?
gdocktor3
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I'm surprised to read this. I also thought the 2235 was the cats *** in the impact wrench world. I had a similar problem when my mg725 left me hanging. As mentioned above, I also went with a 3/4" drive Aircat 1600th for those tough ones. This thing is an absolute animal and really affordable.
MattPersman
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Somewhere there is this random group of people that can tighten down lugnuts on vehicles to some crazy level and the stud doesn't break
I have come across this a hand full of times over the years you gotta pull out all the impacts in disbelief thinking maybe something is wrong. It's no concern to the tool most of the time it's just the nut is actually on something fierce combined perhaps with corrosion
I have come across this a hand full of times over the years you gotta pull out all the impacts in disbelief thinking maybe something is wrong. It's no concern to the tool most of the time it's just the nut is actually on something fierce combined perhaps with corrosion
bcradio
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Grab a 3/4 gun to compliment it.
The mt2769 is crazy strong, I'm sure the 2235 is too, haven't had one to test yet. I use several nobody even knows what they are most likely. US General had one and it's the Nesco NP745XLT and the ATD2102 I think were the numbers, ( was sold under many names) I have that and a Nitrocat 1000M at home, and the same two wrenches at work. They do everything I need.
Same thing happened to mine. It was operator error.
Check your air pressure at the gun with the trigger opened!!
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=331011
I've recently had the pleasure of becoming quite familiar with the performance of the MT2769 and I can tell you it is very stout. Recent testing I've witnessed showed it outperform both the 2135TiMAX and 2235TiMAX.
619DioFan
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This is why I love my m18 fuel impact. has not failed yet.
anndel
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I have the Aircat 1150, IR 2235TIQMax, Snap On MG725 and Asto Pneumatic 1/2 Nano and all work great at ripping off wheel lugs, frame bolts, engine mounts, xmission mounts, etc. I grab the SO MG725 or the IR first but the SO has been in sick bay until I replace the anvil ring as sockets fly off when spinning. I've been using the Astro more to see if it can compete with the "Big Boys" and hasn't failed me yet.
gdocktor3
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You know I didn't want to say anything because we're on pneumatics, but I have not met anything my 20v Dewalt couldn't take off either. And I'm talking old, rusty, crusty, tight as hell diesel truck and farming equipment/machinery type stuff that hasn't been touched in 20 years. I was shocked when my dcf899 removed fasteners my mg725 could not.
SHOCKED - I bought my 3/4" Aircat to use when the mg725 failed, but haven't used either since buying the Dewalt. That 20v impact is hands down the best tool I've purchased in recent years.I know one thing for sure. I can't stand my nitrokat 1355xl. No feathering at all on the the trigger, just today I was trying to feather a bolt off and of course immediately goes full blast and my swivel socket smashed my fingernail. I couldn't stand this thing since I got it, it's thrown swivels at my face before. Did that today as well. I'm gonna buy the mg325 I get half off through school
anndel
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Yeah I hear ya. That Aircat is only on or off. I stopped using it because when I tried to feather a steering damper bolt with a swivel it was full on then flung that socket in my face. So far the Astro Pneumatic and IR I can feather and works very well.
Yeah usually it's not a big deal, but when you're just trying to break a fastener free without the socket flying off it *****. I've been in a customer before and it's sent a swivel flying and almost broke a windshield. When you have space it's no biggie. I'm gonna keep it for when I need something with some power
Once I get some more money I'm upgrading to that. I know my guns strong just blew me away a lug nut stopped it. I have a feeling it was an air supply issue, but I've never had that happen at work before. No one else has complained so I assume it's the gun
1/2 air line, don't know about regulators, whatever my shop set them too. And for fittings I think it's a 3/8? Same fittings I've always used. Whatever fits in the shops hose
Hopefully this is it. It seemed to be a work of art. How it was the tight was beyond my comprehension. Like I said tho, I tightened a few lug nuts down and zipped the stubborn one right off.
Next time a Honda timing belt comes in I'm testing it one the crank bolt.
I wouldn't buy the Mt2769 a friend at work has one and it is gutless compared my my mg725... And no I'm not just a snap on fan boy I've had air cats and IR as well. The snap on rips and has power like nothing else... It is noisy but well worth it
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crewchief888
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ive been using IR 231 impacts for many years...
i wont buy any other 1/2" dr air impact....
i wont buy any other 1/2" dr air impact....
str8axle55
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I've been happy with my 2135, had a 234 before. I've had very good luck with the IR 1/2 guns. That being said, we do have a 3/4 gun in the shop for those lugs that won`t come off. Every now and then you just 1 or 2 that wont budge. As far as the Snap on guns, the last shop I was at, all the kids bought them. They were great....for a while, then they broke. This was fine as they were under warranty, but after being repaired they never were the same. This same complaint was with more than 1 tech.
I hear so many different opinions it's crazy. I've had one guy at work swear by his ir gun bc it's never broke and he traded his snap on in for it because it kept breaking. Another guy at work has had the opposite happen. I've seen the mt2769. It's got guts
According to tests and data you should be close to the top in the 1/2" impact range with the IR2235.
We have plenty of salt on our streets and corrosive environment in general. There are no limits to how much torque it can take to remove lugs from old(ish) aluminium (alloy) wheels that have not been moved for a while. Just like Matt Persman states above.
We have plenty of salt on our streets and corrosive environment in general. There are no limits to how much torque it can take to remove lugs from old(ish) aluminium (alloy) wheels that have not been moved for a while. Just like Matt Persman states above.
Solid point. Salt does **** up here in the rust belt. I'm sure it won't be the last time. It's never given me a problem before
He may have had a bum one, I've seen plenty of testing that shows the MT2769 beating the SO and IR in both reverse torque and max removal torque (nut busting torque).
No not a bum one he has warrantied 2 out already and they were both just as useless... I would put my snap on up against the Matco any day... I have an air cat 1250k as well. It claims to be the most powerful 1/2 inch impact and my snap on puts that to shame too.
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Maybe I should note too that I work as a fleet mechanic and am taking lugs off of semis on a pretty regular basis. So I would venture to say if I can buzz lugs off a semi no problem then it will do just about anything you want it to
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firebox40dash5
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I can only remember my 2135 stalling on one lug nut, and it was either rusted or cross-threaded on (or both) and I "fixed" its wagon by snapping it. It took off those "pesky" Honda balancer bolts plenty of times.
So I would go with an air supply issue if nothing else is pointing to a defective gun. A lot of things done right an be undone by one thing done wrong. If you're usually in the same bay and can get away with it, HVLP (Milton V or Prevost high flow) can help... Miltons are backwards compatible with regular I/M, don't think Prevost is. Of course that's ******* in the breeze if there's some dumb problem like a 1/4" jumper hose somewhere or something.
So I would go with an air supply issue if nothing else is pointing to a defective gun. A lot of things done right an be undone by one thing done wrong. If you're usually in the same bay and can get away with it, HVLP (Milton V or Prevost high flow) can help... Miltons are backwards compatible with regular I/M, don't think Prevost is. Of course that's ******* in the breeze if there's some dumb problem like a 1/4" jumper hose somewhere or something.
I can tell you that I tested an MT2769 against a fresh MG725 and a fresh 2135timax, it beat up all over the other two impacts. I've bought and sold hundreds and tested every one, the mt2769 is stronger than any 2135 or mg725 I've ever tested. The MT2769 felt cheap to me though, I don't like the buttons or the housing material on it at all.
Rich.
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If you want to go off specs alone, the MT2769 is 50ft lb less powerful than the 2235, I diddnt realize how much more powerful the 2235 was over the old 2135, and i have both of them!
rbahr
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I JUST picked up a Dewalt DCF899. It is a beast. My lug nuts are torqued to 350lb-ft, and this takes them of as if they were barely tightened. I have several 3/8, 1/2, and 3/4 air guns, and this really seems to do a good job...
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