Now I'm a believer in Snap On

[blown94conv]

how great harbor freight 44" toolboxes are.

This would have gotten you some respect. Praising Snap On though? You're just a Kool aid drinker.

 

[TXNinAZ]

This would have gotten you some respect. Praising Snap On though? You're just a Kool aid drinker.

Yeah pretty much. I like that the tone of the comments is that I chose only the worst options, didn't use the tools correctly, and if I didn't specifically mention it, I didn't do it (use a wire brush, etc). You guys wonder why people lurk- it's because of threads like this one. Nobody likes to be the target of unfounded insults.

 

[Wamsutta]

Yeah pretty much. I like that the tone of the comments is that I chose only the worst options, didn't use the tools correctly, and if I didn't specifically mention it, I didn't do it (use a wire brush, etc). You guys wonder why people lurk- it's because of threads like this one. Nobody likes to be the target of unfounded insults.

Don't fret, there's plenty of Snap-on believers out there like me watching from the shadows. I think you should keep the wrench.

 

[PJNJ]

Yeah pretty much. I like that the tone of the comments is that I chose only the worst options, didn't use the tools correctly, and if I didn't specifically mention it, I didn't do it (use a wire brush, etc). You guys wonder why people lurk- it's because of threads like this one. Nobody likes to be the target of unfounded insults.

Probably the majority of the members here like Snap On, Wright, Proto, SK, Mac, Cornwell and the like for their quality. The price may be higher but generally the quality outweighs the price. And many of us do purchase certain HF tools and equipment that seem to hold up pretty well. And there are all the the in-between tool companies as well (Gearwrench for example).

But it seems whenever someone posts about their preference for, love of and/or experience with a particular brand of tool, especially Snap On or HF, the insults start to fly at the poster. Doesn't make any sense. You posted about your good experience using fdp wrench - I thank you for taking the time to tell us about it. Don't let the schmucks around here make you into a lurker. I have just about stopped posting on a car forum I frequented for years because many of the members are turning into a bunch of smug know-it-alls seemingly intent on driving away anyone who doesn't agree with them. I would hate to see that happen here.

Thanks again and keep posting.

 

[buffalobill]

Yeah pretty much. I like that the tone of the comments is that I chose only the worst options, didn't use the tools correctly, and if I didn't specifically mention it, I didn't do it (use a wire brush, etc). You guys wonder why people lurk- it's because of threads like this one. Nobody likes to be the target of unfounded insults.

If snap on tools were not worth the money, they would be out of business. It's the same with Kroil. You would think if atf and acetone were so good, someone would have put it in a spray can, charged half price, and parked it on the shelves anywhere kroil is sold.

 

[cgrutt]

Personally I love Snap On tools. Don't care what others think. Sure there are plenty of good tools out there by many brands. There is also a lot of ****. Buy and use what works for you. Glad you got your job done without busting a knuckle or stripping the nut.

 

[gearhead1]

If snap on tools were not worth the money, they would be out of business. It's the same with Kroil. You would think if atf and acetone were so good, someone would have put it in a spray can, charged half price, and parked it on the shelves anywhere kroil is sold.

As a serious DIYer, I agree. I have some of everything, mostly Craftsman, but some of everything. There are certain tools where the design is better from the more expensive brand.

As a teen, I was at my cousins repair shop and the Snap on truck came. He had the torsion tester and you could see the Snap on screwdriver would,allow you to get more torque. As a skeptic, it had to be a trick, so I went to my box for the Craftsman and my cousins for the Snap on. Sure enough, the design of the Snap on handle allows more torque whereas the Craftsman would slip sooner. The same thing for the flank drive. The Snap ons were clearly engineered.

Do some of the less expensive brands have some of that engineered in nowadays? Maybe. They probably do on some things and they probably don't on others.

As a serious DIYer with the majority of Craftsman, I just bought the Snap on snap ring plier set the OP had for sale in the classifieds. Why? Because they work better than the cheaper ones. It seems to me they always bend, or aren't strong enough in some way or another.

If you're just changing oil, the HF tools are good enough. But rebuilding engines, working on equipment, building derby cars, etc I want what I feel is a better tool in some cases.

 

[terry603]

I would never use an open end for something like that

 

[TXNinAZ]

I would never use an open end for something like that

Even if you wanted to test out a feature of a tool you'd never used before? That was the whole point, after all.

 

[ptschram]

Once you get hooked on a $50/week for life payment plan the price sticker is irrelevant. I don't even ask my dealer for pricings anymore, if I like it/need it/want it, throw it on my account!

And we love you for it!

Did you have a pipe on it? A Snap On box wrench is good for many hundreds of pounds. How did you apply enough force to break a Snap On wrench? Why didn't you stop before it broke?

Snap On wrenches are among the strongest or the strongest made. In just about every wrench test, they are near the top or #1. Takes something special to break one. You really have to go out of your way. Normal use won't break one.

Repetitive cycling fatigues even the best.

 

[kage860]

I'm surprised no one mentioned to use a pipe wrench on a rusted bolt like that. It would have grabbed the head and taken it right out.

 

[T45]

I'm surprised no one mentioned to use a pipe wrench on a rusted bolt like that. It would have grabbed the head and taken it right out.

The benefit is not so much that an air hammer or monkee wrench or vise grip wouldnt work, it is that you don't need them. For people with weight or space contraints, for example, it is nice to know your tool has a bit more envelope before it turns into a special situation.

 

[1982fxr]

Yeah pretty much. I like that the tone of the comments is that I chose only the worst options, didn't use the tools correctly, and if I didn't specifically mention it, I didn't do it (use a wire brush, etc). You guys wonder why people lurk- it's because of threads like this one. Nobody likes to be the target of unfounded insults.

For the win! ^^^^^^

Shoulda stayed in bed

I go around looking for bolts like that so I can play with my wrightgrips

 

[straightcut]

Then I decided to pull out a Snap On flank drive plus wrench that I'm trying to sell. Got all 4 bolts off without a fight, even the one I boogered up trying other tools on. The open end of the wrench immediately bit into the rusty hex head and never budged.

So, does this mean your S-O wrenches are no longer for sale?

 

[TXNinAZ]

So, does this mean your S-O wrenches are no longer for sale?

Someone bought them the next night [emoji20]

 

[PugetDude]

my first several attempts were all useless: penetrating oil, Knipex cobra pliers, Knipex pliers wrench, Craftsman 9/16 wrench, hammer whack to break the rust bond.

Guys, this was meant to share my realization that there is a difference in the truck brand tools, not to demonstrate my inability to choose the best method to remove a bolt. As I was working, a thought popped in my head about what the flank drive plus was good for, so I wanted to try it first hand. I definitely could have gone for a box end wrench or a socket, but that would have entailed more prep work to get the rust off, and I wanted to try a real-life situation that a design was created for.

Using a truck brand tool after "penetrating oil, Knipex cobra pliers, Knipex pliers wrench, Craftsman 9/16 wrench, hammer whack to break the rust bond" is hardly a ringing endorsement. After all that you could have probably used one of those stamped steel wrenches that comes with ready-to-assemble particleboard furniture...

 

[TXNinAZ]

Using a truck brand tool after "penetrating oil, Knipex cobra pliers, Knipex pliers wrench, Craftsman 9/16 wrench, hammer whack to break the rust bond" is hardly a ringing endorsement. After all that you could have probably used one of those stamped steel wrenches that comes with ready-to-assemble particleboard furniture...

Tried that stuff on one of the bolts. The other three bolts I only tried the Snap On wrench. Amazing how people have missed the point so much on this point.

 

[Jarhead0408]

I dunno Aaron, at this point it's almost humorous. Almost...

 

[Know Wosad]

Every tool company around has tools to be sought after and tools to be laughed at. PERIOD. Choose wisely. In this case you grabbed the right tool.

 

[sberry]

It doesn't hurt to have a few of those in the box. There are occasions they are just the right thing.

 

[maxpower_hd]

For the win! ^^^^^^

Shoulda stayed in bed

I go around looking for bolts like that so I can play with my wrightgrips

I have looked at those and never pulled the trigger. Have you had the opportunity to use the SO Flank Drive? I'm just wondering how they compare. I have no Wright stuff yet and this may be the first purchase for me.

Thanks

 

[Wakefield]

Bolts don't know what turned them. Or what slipped and didn't turn them.
But the operator sure does.

 

[AJ.]

I have just bought new spanners with this feature (Sidchrome 440 pro's) so good to read that it works.

Cheers Andrew

 

[MattPersman]

You and the snap on FDP won, the fastener lost

The others saying this wrench or that wrench could have done the same thing, well it should cause they copied off of snap on with there super innovation. Why buy the copy cat when you can support the actual company others wish they were.

You can buy store brand cola but it's never generally as good as coke or Pepsi is

 

[ptschram]

You and the snap on FDP won, the fastener lost

The others saying this wrench or that wrench could have done the same thing, well it should cause they copied off of snap on with there super innovation. Why buy the copy cat when you can support the actual company others wish they were.

You can buy store brand cola but it's never generally as good as coke or Pepsi is

Bravo!

 

[kctyphoon]

A wrench worked?

 

[Ad13]

Any decent socket could have taken that off, but hey whatever floats your boat.

 

[Superbec]

You and the snap on FDP won, the fastener lost

The others saying this wrench or that wrench could have done the same thing, well it should cause they copied off of snap on with there super innovation. Why buy the copy cat when you can support the actual company others wish they were.

You can buy store brand cola but it's never generally as good as coke or Pepsi is

s-o invented the wrench?

 

[ssdave]

Well, actually the modern combination wrench was invented by Plomb. Snap on has popularized flank drive and off the corner drive wrench technologies, though.

I for one am glad for the availability of quality tools. At the same time, I don't begrudge the low quality/low cost options that are available for those that prefer that. I'm always pleased when a premium product works exactly as it is designed to do.

 

[kctyphoon]

Love these threads where the only brands that exist in the world are HF, Craftsman, and Snap On.. There are literally a dozen or more other brands that work just as well as snap on, without having to pay the markup on a truck service most homeowners will never be able to use..

 

[blown94conv]

Love these threads where the only brands that exist in the world are HF, Craftsman, and Snap On.. There are literally a dozen or more other brands that work just as well as snap on, without having to pay the markup on a truck service most homeowners will never be able to use..

He didn't say there weren't other options. He said he was happy that the tool he selected performed as it should.

And who cares about markup? That seems to be a big point with you. I'm a homeowner who has never had a problem getting service from Snap On.

 

[1982fxr]

I have looked at those and never pulled the trigger. Have you had the opportunity to use the SO Flank Drive? I'm just wondering how they compare. I have no Wright stuff yet and this may be the first purchase for me.

Thanks

Haven't used s-o but it seems what people say is they both work great and it comes down to length and beam profile preferences. Wright is shorter with a little thicker beam I believe.

 

[kage860]

Snap on flank drive is a good tool for particular situations and you are right to be excited by its capabilities. But if you post on a tool enthusiast website you should not be surprised that people comment on their own preferred methods and tools. Dont take it personally that everyone has their own opinions, thats the nature of internet forums i guess. Sort of like jeep forums, if you dont buy the parts everyone else buys you're jeep will fall apart

 

[kctyphoon]

He didn't say there weren't other options. He said he was happy that the tool he selected performed as it should.

And who cares about markup? That seems to be a big point with you. I'm a homeowner who has never had a problem getting service from Snap On.

I care about the markup, and anyone else that doesn't like giving money away does too.. if you were paying 1/3 more on your utilities to support a door to door warranty service you will never be able to use, I'm sure you might begin to look for another provider.. he's free to spend his money how he likes, but the truth is there are plenty of other "saviors" in the wrench world that will perform as good or better for probably half the cost or even less. Threads like these can just be simplified into "my $35 wrench outperformed a $3 wrench" not really something that commands much praise when u put it like that.. but hey, we need something to talk about here don't we..

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[blown94conv]

Kctyphoon, why again do you care about markup on tools you don't buy? Really, none of us that buy these tools are blind to the fact that there are cheaper options out there.

I just can't understand your disdain for Snap on.

 

[Askme42]

He didn't say there weren't other options. He said he was happy that the tool he selected performed as it should.

And who cares about markup? That seems to be a big point with you. I'm a homeowner who has never had a problem getting service from Snap On.

If the title of the thread is I'm a snap on believer now.you know you'd think maybe the thread would be about something only snap on could do.

 

[MWEric]

I have both. FD+ at home and WG at work. Both awesome. WG more comfortable. FD+ longer. Had an O2 sensor on a Chevy not budge. Took the Wrightgrip and my foot and broke the bung and sensor out. Oops. Can't go wrong with either.

 

[Tinner]

Kctyphoon, why again do you care about markup on tools you don't buy? Really, none of us that buy these tools are blind to the fact that there are cheaper options out there.

I just can't understand your disdain for Snap on.

Just another cheapskate on a mission to save people from themselves. The feeling of superiority boosts his self esteem. Guys like him think they're smarter than everyone else and can't seem to stop repeating themselves endlessly.

 

[dsimatt]

Kctyphoon, why again do you care about markup on tools you don't buy? Really, none of us that buy these tools are blind to the fact that there are cheaper options out there.

I just can't understand your disdain for Snap on.

Its comments by him and others that get old because its like a broken record their hate of certain brands.

Here is a different example I had at work awhile back, broken oil pan bolt that I put my cheap no name twist socket on and it broke, then I tried a couple different matco ones and they just slipped so a last ditch try I borrowed a snap on one and it bit down hard and got the bolt out so the next week I bought a set and have no regrets.

 

[Kev442]

Could saved a lot of grief with the title saying " flank drive worked well". The title used seems designed to stir things up IMO.
I wonder what kind of snarky comments my tool box would generate. I tossed my Snap on flare wrenches on top of my Williams combos and $10 no name specials this afternoon and closed the drawer. None of them broke today, and neither did any of my GW, SK or HF tools either, shocking.