Did you buy a Snap On floor jack over Daytona or Arcan? Of course, anyone can buy anything as long as you have money or credit or someone is willing to spot you credit or assistance.
Harbor Freight 3 Ton Daytona Jack Versus Snap On FJ300 Jack
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Did you buy a Snap On floor jack over Daytona or Arcan? Of course, anyone can buy anything as long as you have money or credit or someone is willing to spot you credit or assistance.
ScottsGT
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Its almost worth the premium to not have to go into a HF store and smell the smell.
I don't know about that one. For $400, I'm willing to smell some pretty nasty things!
Its almost worth the premium to not have to go into a HF store and smell the smell.
You sound like my wife
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Burgerkong
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Close as in I had to drive a hour and a half to the border then another hour and a half to the HF. So yes, close. Lol. Actually I had to go to Rochester for a Costco run, there is a closer HF pretty much next to the bridge I cross over at.
yogitech
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Snap On FJ200 and FJ300 are built with U cup seals, not cheap o rings.
HF said Daytona use "premium quality piston seals" so I am guessing no oring.
I just took my Daytona apart yesterday. It uses baby kittens instead of o rings!
Why are we still talking about this. I thought we came to the conclusion that Daytona wins. Case closed. Lock this thread.
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Why are we still talking about this. I thought we came to the conclusion that Daytona wins. Case closed. Lock this thread.
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thesilverone
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does it win cause you said so?
DSLTRK
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Are o rings that bad? Milwaukee uses backed orings and that is a legendary jack design for reliability.
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Absolutely Not, tons of Hydraulic applications that utilize Orings in one aspect of another. The difference between Milwaukee and the run of the mill Chinese floor jacks is the Poor Tolerances/Rod finish they have, and I'm also not willing to throw every Chinese jack into that basket, but I have seen some poor excuses for lift equipment. The biggest issue I have is the Oring/retainer that a lot of them use in a Piston application, the ONLY reason they use it... Is because they want to control the lifetime service of the jack, No doubt in my mind. My cost on your average 40mm bore Ucup is a a couple bucks, I'm sure these manufacturers could get that cost down considerably with the volume they are dealing with. It makes you wonder...
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DSLTRK
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We'll just have to wait and see. If i didn't already have a Milwaukee I'd consider this unit.
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Autoguy
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NASADA FLOOR JACKS >>MADE IN JAPAN
3 TON COST AROUND 400 USD IN MJY COUNTRY
EXCELLENT PRODUCT
3 TON COST AROUND 400 USD IN MJY COUNTRY
EXCELLENT PRODUCT
I saw the HF Daytona jack in person for the first time yesterday. Looks pretty damn nice for a HF product. Lol. The one thing that I noticed in person, that I did not notice in all of the pictures posted on the internet, was the finish of the powder coat/paint job.... it's hard to put my finger on exactly why.... not sure if the coating was thin, or just dull and flat? (No shine) it's like they went out of their way to build a quality product but fell short on the final coating. Maybe it's just me? Maybe it just the display model at my store? However, it would NOT stop me from buying one if I needed a new floor jack today.
Burgerkong
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No, it was dull on the one I fondled as well, think it's just the matte powder coating.
blown94conv
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I just bought a Porsche Macon for $16,400.
Well, not exactly.
http://www.carbuzz.com/news/2016/10/12/Now-You-Can-Have-A-Porsche-Macan-For-16-400-7735900/
Well, not exactly.
http://www.carbuzz.com/news/2016/10/12/Now-You-Can-Have-A-Porsche-Macan-For-16-400-7735900/
Burgerkong
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Exactly how is that relevant to this thread in any way? A more apt comparison would be if Skoda made something identical to Audi.
blown94conv
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Just because it looks the same and costs less doesn't mean it's as good.
Burgerkong
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Is there empirical evidence that it's not as good? Until someone tears both units down, noone knows, but don't go telling everyone that it's a poor imitation.
WhiffySpark
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Not yet I will or a hein warner.
I don't believe it's the same jack or even made by the same people. Just my opinion.
blown94conv
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I'm a little busy, could care less about spending my hard earned money to buy a jack to rip apart to show you that it's a cheap copy, sent over by the kings of the cheap copy.
You want to risk it, be my guest. But I learned a long time ago that the sweetness of low price is always replaced by the bitterness of low quality.
oilslick
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I got one for our shop at work ,5 stalls ,4-5 guys. We have a 20yr old snap on and a 5yr old Matco besides. I figured if we are gonna roll the dice on a impoort jack might as well get the cheap one with the best warranty. Been a couple weeks and it's lifted more than it should! It's a shop favorite so far,hard to beat 180 with a coupon. I also grabbed a couple ratchets just to try them, so far so good.
I went to a local HF store this morning and concluded (IMO) that HF Daytona is the best 3T floor jack under $200. This is why Snap On is worried because people are smart and they will buy Daytona over Snap On. The quality of Dayton is very good and don't see much weakness. There is just no way (and suspect many others) I am paying three times more for Snap On FJ300.
General Geoff
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Just won't let this thread die!
Daytona jack in action. Light work for this jack (maybe ~1 ton load), but still, works like a champ. Very nice, fine control in lowering the car. Much better in that respect than my older 3-ton HF jack.
Daytona jack in action. Light work for this jack (maybe ~1 ton load), but still, works like a champ. Very nice, fine control in lowering the car. Much better in that respect than my older 3-ton HF jack.
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Roberts210
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They may buy the Daytona at first, but it allllll depends on the internals. If the Daytona used a poly U-cup and quality parts I would expect it to last a long time and people to be very happy with it. But if they cheaped out and used crappy internals or if the Daytona develops a tendency to leak then.......
Either way it's no sweat off my balls. I have a Milwaukee Model 20 service jack and a Hein Werner 2-ton WS, both rebuilt within the last 2 years--the Milwaukee at a factory authorized service center (before I found GJ) and the H-W by me guided by Hiball.
My friend and I went to the Harbor Freight sidewalk sale today. We had big plans to get one of these Jacks for 179.99(plus he had a 20% coupon if they let us use that too). He deiced he wanted something with a higher lift height and I told him how you guys like the Daytona. We were the first ones there and they didn't have any in stock! We looked at the display and it did look like a nice jack.
I did not know much about Daytona before I bought SO FJ200 for my T4R truck. I got a good deal ($275) on a brand new one from a nice mechanic so I just bought a FJ200 without thinking twice. Dayton jack is really nice - I may pay $100 for Snap On but not more.
Read the microscopic print on the 20% off coupon. There is a list of things you cannot use it for, including all jacks. It has never been allowed to be used in combination with a super coupon. However, I recently saw a flyer that had a coupon for Dayton branded items. I forget how much it was for.
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We need AvE from youtube to do a complete tear down of both the HF and SO jacks to finally determine if they are the same internally. If you're not familiar with AvE, check him out.... This type of thing is right up his alley. Maybe I will try to contact him about this, unless someone else here on GJ has a better way to contact him?
gdocktor3
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Will that jack lift the Dodge in the background? I don't mean weight wise, I mean height wise because of the tires.
gdocktor3
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That's not saying much lol. So in other words, it's a great buy for people who don't really use them.
Just kidding
General Geoff
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Funny story, that truck was put on a rollback flatbed and hauled away about 20 minutes after I took that photo!
That being said, yeah this jack could lift that truck, but probably only from the diff housings, and only a few inches.
Don't know if the two jacks are the same, but it would be short-sighted to assume that the quality of a SO product is better solely because SO charges more. Take a look at the Truck Tool Equivalents thread and you will find examples of tools manufactured by another company and rebranded by SO at a higher price.
Oops! I meant to say Daytona. Dayton is a brand name owned by WW Grainger. I have an older model of the 1/2" HF Earthquake inpact wrench. If you bring up the illustrated parts breakdown drawing and the one for the the Ingersoll Rand Thunder gun they are identical except for the trigger assembly. I would bet that the parts interchange. You had better be sure if you go for the Daytona jack because HF product support is notoriously bad. That is part of how they can sell such cheap tools. The 90 day warranty and the purchased, extended coverage plan, where they will exchange your clunker for another one is about all the protection you get. As far as tech nical help, I have talked to them on the phone and they don't have a clue. You buy it, you fix it, you find other parts that fit or you eat it. That is not to say that I have not bought some things there that I am very happy with. That 44" tool cabinet set is widely well reviewed and their Eartquake inpact stuff works really well. I once read that you should never buy anything there that plugs in. That is probably true. Writing reviews on their site is a hoot. I once commented that the hex bits were very durable but the black finish easily rubbed off. They have an auto censor monitoring comments and mine was rejected for a racist comment, because I used the word black. They had a similar setup where I used to work and I was on line talking about a car engine and used the term bare block. The censor generated a warning about discussing *** because I used the word bare. We truely are being ruled by machines we have created. Sounds like something from a sifi story.
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I only got nailed once, for saying that the product I bought appeared to be identical to one sold by one of their marketplace sellers, under a different brand name, at twice the price.
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bubinga
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IDK, HF had a whole list of Gems, that were considered quite nice.I'm a little busy, could care less about spending my hard earned money to buy a jack to rip apart to show you that it's a cheap copy, sent over by the kings of the cheap copy.
You want to risk it, be my guest. But I learned a long time ago that the sweetness of low price is always replaced by the bitterness of low quality.
Mobile base, dust collector, to name a few I can think of.
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Question about trying to compare the two jacks: I saw a U-Tube video of the Snap-On Jack getting to full height in 3 1/2 pumps and saw another U-Tube video of the Daytona jack taking 5 1/2 pumps. Can someone try one or the another and tell me how many pumps each takes to get to full height empty?
My fj300 is an honest 4 to full tilt.