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Loscaldazar

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The 5 point security torx (called Tamperproof Torx Plus) aren't supposed to even be sold to the general public. Snap On and many other big name tool companies require you to show them an EPA license if you want to buy from corporate (I bet drivers are much more lenient). Of course, rebranding/importing tool companies don't care about those rules as much and will happily sell you a set, thankfully!
 
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The 5 point security torx (called Tamperproof Torx Plus) aren't supposed to even be sold to the general public. Snap On and many other big name tool companies require you to show them an EPA license if you want to buy from corporate (I bet drivers are much more lenient). Of course, rebranding/importing tool companies don't care about those rules as much and will happily sell you a set, thankfully!

Interesting, I did not know that.

Amazon sure didn't seem to care when I ordered them. No surprise I don't guess.
 

someofusgotfarmingtodo

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I just got these babies in the mail today. I never owned any ratcheting wrenches before and need to get some to replace the starter motor on the Ford tractor. I found these on ebay for 80 bucks brand new and couldn't pass them up. They are awfully thin wrenches, they feel more like a tappet wrench. I guess I'm just use to my beefy Craftsman beater wrenches. Never owned any Gearwrench before, looking forward to trying them out. The only issue I have is that there is no reverse lever so I can only tighten fasteners with this set. I need to buy a whole other set to loosen fasteners. At least that is what I'm going to tell my wife, we'll see if she believes me.:lol:
 

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The 5 point security torx (called Tamperproof Torx Plus) aren't supposed to even be sold to the general public. Snap On and many other big name tool companies require you to show them an EPA license if you want to buy from corporate (I bet drivers are much more lenient). Of course, rebranding/importing tool companies don't care about those rules as much and will happily sell you a set, thankfully!

Care to elaborate why and the EPA pls. Just curious. :pimpflash
 

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The 5 point security torx (called Tamperproof Torx Plus) aren't supposed to even be sold to the general public. Snap On and many other big name tool companies require you to show them an EPA license if you want to buy from corporate (I bet drivers are much more lenient). Of course, rebranding/importing tool companies don't care about those rules as much and will happily sell you a set, thankfully!

Per my application, the screws are holding on a mirror. Pretty sure NOT an upgrade. Possibly though. It is like this on both sides.

Got a link? I don't see that particular set on Amazon.


Yes that is the exact same set. Same price too.

Here is the Amazon link.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00K42XSZI/?tag=atomicindus08-20

My only complaint is that they are ALL 1/2 inch drive. I have this big friggin ratchet taking off these tiny mirror screws.
 

Loscaldazar

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Care to elaborate why and the EPA pls. Just curious. :pimpflash

They are used almost exclusively on emissions equipment and devices, so it's stuff the government doesn't want the general public messing with.

Here's what Snap On says about their Tamperproof Torx Plus Bit Sockets (which don't appear in their online catalog). Last line is the important bit.
"5 lobe configuration. 2 piece pinless design holds
bit securely in socket while facilitating quick bit
replacement. Cold formed socket delivers a strong,
durable tool. Chrome plating resists corrosion and
cleans easily. For sale to authorized technicians only."

Per my application, the screws are holding on a mirror. Pretty sure NOT an upgrade. Possibly though. It is like this on both sides.

That's an odd place to have them. I've only ever seen/heard of them on parts of an engine, intake, exhaust, etc that are related to emissions, hence why Snap On and a few other companies won't sell them to the general public.
 

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I walked on the Mac truck and brought a set. $120 for a full set. I've never heard of what you're talking about. People used to say the same thing about tamper proof torx
 

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Cool stubby.
I will buy one someday when I have the money and see the right color.

Thanks. I've wanted one for a while, for no other reason than to own one. A member on here was kind enough to sell it to me for a very fair price.

That's my second most used Phillips. I got mine over 20 years ago in a tool repo when I was selling tools

I appreciate the feedback. I used it today on some interior screws just to say that I've used it. It felt good, and not overly bulky.
 

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That's an odd place to have them. I've only ever seen/heard of them on parts of an engine, intake, exhaust, etc that are related to emissions, hence why Snap On and a few other companies won't sell them to the general public.

I agree. This is an 09. I have worked on more than a few of these and I have NEVER seen these fasteners in my life. I am not sure if you are familiar with these but the mirror is removed from the OUTSIDE. So it is possible ( likely ) at some point they were replaced for security reasons.
 

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They are used almost exclusively on emissions equipment and devices, so it's stuff the government doesn't want the general public messing with.

Here's what Snap On says about their Tamperproof Torx Plus Bit Sockets (which don't appear in their online catalog). Last line is the important bit.
"5 lobe configuration. 2 piece pinless design holds
bit securely in socket while facilitating quick bit
replacement. Cold formed socket delivers a strong,
durable tool. Chrome plating resists corrosion and
cleans easily. For sale to authorized technicians only."



That's an odd place to have them. I've only ever seen/heard of them on parts of an engine, intake, exhaust, etc that are related to emissions, hence why Snap On and a few other companies won't sell them to the general public.


Oddly, I was sitting upon the public commode in a target and notice that the stalls were put together with tamper proof torx. So I can see reason for the general public to have them at that point. Whose to say you aren't a crapper divider technician! :thumbup:
 

Loscaldazar

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Oddly, I was sitting upon the public commode in a target and notice that the stalls were put together with tamper proof torx. So I can see reason for the general public to have them at that point. Whose to say you aren't a crapper divider technician! :thumbup:

Tamperproof Torx and Tamperproof Torx Plus are two different types of fasteners. Tamperproof Torx are easy to get, Tamperproof Torx Plus are more difficult :beer:
 

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These all came in and found a good deal locally on a set of 1/2" shallow and deep 6 point sets.

What's the part number on green adjustable set ?
 

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Not really an arrival but something I built for brake drums on semis that are really seized on


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Finally broke down and bought my first miter saw. I only have one 20A outlet in my garage so it's being cordless was a major selling factor for me. I also liked that it has 98% of the cutting capacity of a 12" saw in a much more compact and lightweight package. It was spot on right out of the box which was a nice bonus.

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Only thing I that I don't like about it is what I found on the bottom of the box.

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Getting harder and harder to find American Made tools - even from major U.S. tool makers. The battery and maybe charger I could see being made in Asia, but the whole thing? Sign of the times I guess...
 

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They haven't made most their electric tools here for quite a while along with most major players
 

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Finally broke down and bought my first miter saw. I only have one 20A outlet in my garage so it's being cordless was a major selling factor for me. I also liked that it has 98% of the cutting capacity of a 12" saw in a much more compact and lightweight package. It was spot on right out of the box which was a nice bonus.



Only thing I that I don't like about it is what I found on the bottom of the box.



Getting harder and harder to find American Made tools - even from major U.S. tool makers. The battery and maybe charger I could see being made in Asia, but the whole thing? Sign of the times I guess...

Milwaukee tools is owned by Techtronic Industries which is based in Hong Kong.
 

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From my snapon guy today


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Its like a non-locking vise grip. Will adjust to almost any shape, size. They come in 3 sizes I think, I have the larger and the medium size. I have used mine on a bunch of things that are damaged, broke, twisted, stripped, torn, stuck...
Zim
 

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Its like a non-locking vise grip. Will adjust to almost any shape, size. They come in 3 sizes I think, I have the larger and the medium size. I have used mine on a bunch of things that are damaged, broke, twisted, stripped, torn, stuck...
Zim


Right - I'd say they are somewhere between vise grips and a pipe wrench. The harder you pull, the stronger they bite in. I bought the medium sized pair first and had if for a year or so and finally decided to get the big ones.
 
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