The VISES of Garage Journal
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Can I try?
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Hey folks, I just wanted to share with you the vise I picked up yesterday. It's the first vise I bought that I felt like was a score - mostly because of the condition and style, not so much the price. it's a Yost 43 1/2 with a swivel base and rear swivel jaw. It's in relatively good condition. It's clearly seen little use, but has been neglected. It really just needs a disassembly and cleaning. The dynamic jaw and swivel base move freely, but the locking pin for the swivel will need some work to free up. I really wanted a vise like this because I feel the size and style will be perfect for the kids to use on the weird projects they dream up. I paid $40 for it.
Also, I had picked up a Morgan Chicago No. 60 for $20 recently, but it was missing jaw pads. I called up Milwaukee Morgan yesterday morning and was able to order new pads. Simply awesome.
In all, it was a good day for my vises.
Also, I had picked up a Morgan Chicago No. 60 for $20 recently, but it was missing jaw pads. I called up Milwaukee Morgan yesterday morning and was able to order new pads. Simply awesome.
In all, it was a good day for my vises.
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Mark in Indiana
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Can I try,
40$ for that pivot jaw Yost was a steal, IMO.
Is it my imagination, or is the slide unusually short?
40$ for that pivot jaw Yost was a steal, IMO.
Is it my imagination, or is the slide unusually short?
Can I try?
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Good eye, Mark!
I was struck by that as well, but it appears to be unaltered. There is still what appears to be original paint on the end of the slide. As a result of the short slide the throat depth is fairly shallow. interestingly, dayid has a Yost 44 pictured on his site, and the slide does appear proportionally longer.
http://vise.dayid.org/vise/yost/
Maybe Yost wanted to market the 43 1/2 as a compact vise?
kwoswalt99
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Take a pic of the end of the slide.
GETRIDAONE
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That's the "Bobtail" version
I bet the slide had a corner broken off and someone cut it off square again. It will still work for most everything you will normally put in. Nice Vise !
Can I try?
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Here it is.
The jaws are 3 1/2" wide, as one would expect, and the jaw opening measures 3 3/4"
After looking at some other 43 1/2s on google images, it does look like this vise was shortened. Whover cut it did clean work.
It is a bobber! Oh well, it'll still meet my needs. Now I'll be on the hunt for a donor vise. And so it continues...
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I certainly wouldn't worry about it much....not many of us need to put big stuff in a swivel jaw vise anyway. It's still a nice vise that will work perfectly for most uses.
Honestly unless the vise was on its very last thread at the 3 3/4 opening I wouldn't be to worried about it. Because it looks like it's in very nice condition despite the possible modifications.
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Another! 2 in as many weeks!! I still don't have a flush mount for my versa--just sayin'. . . . .
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CRSINMICH
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Another! 2 in as many weeks!! I still don't have a flush mount for my versa--just sayin'. . . . .
mbsinmich: Yeah, I was able to get that one we saw on the estate sale website. The Groundhog's Day reference was because once again whoever owned this Versa-Vise didn't know what the flush mount was for and, just like the sale two weeks ago, it was buried in the bench top. I had to use a hacksaw and a crow bar to get it out. It took 40 minutes. Here's a picture of the two of them.
I'm cogitating on what to do with the 2nd flush mount. I'll get back to you.
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kwoswalt99
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Strange, the end hasn't been modified.
bagged89s10
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Worked on my vise stand a little
I was going to use a 5/8" thick plate i got for free for the top plate of my vise stand but it's just going to be too hard to cut. It also would take a lot of cleanup. My plasma cutter only cuts up to 3/8" and I don't have a torch.
So I stopped at the steel yard and found these 1/4" circle cutoffs. 16" diameter. Just need to edit my design a little and start cutting it with the plasma cutter. Then I will stack and plug weld them together.
I was going to use a 5/8" thick plate i got for free for the top plate of my vise stand but it's just going to be too hard to cut. It also would take a lot of cleanup. My plasma cutter only cuts up to 3/8" and I don't have a torch.
So I stopped at the steel yard and found these 1/4" circle cutoffs. 16" diameter. Just need to edit my design a little and start cutting it with the plasma cutter. Then I will stack and plug weld them together.
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Jaws are very nice,t-handle is straight,dynamic side is very good,end cap has no dents. I also have aftermarket heavy duty endcaps if thats more to anyones liking. So if anyone needs parts,pm me!!
Bobioz1
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"Bobtail" version, lol! That Yost looks great just the way it is. $40 = a steal.
trijeff
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Maybe keep them full circles, do a cutout of one so that there would be little parts areas, like on the stand KMScott just made for his Parker?Worked on my vise stand a little
I was going to use a 5/8" thick plate i got for free for the top plate of my vise stand but it's just going to be too hard to cut. It also would take a lot of cleanup. My plasma cutter only cuts up to 3/8" and I don't have a torch.
So I stopped at the steel yard and found these 1/4" circle cutoffs. 16" diameter. Just need to edit my design a little and start cutting it with the plasma cutter. Then I will stack and plug weld them together.
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bagged89s10
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You kind of read my mind. I did say I was going to use some ideas from kmscott and Royce. I am going to make a cutout for parts on one plate, but I might not keep the full circle.
scooternut
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MB
That Hollands looks good for a user. That handle looks off to me as well. Hollands have oversized balls exactly like REEDS, check the example that was posted, balls are twice the diameter of the handle. Yours look, well like normal balls
That Hollands looks good for a user. That handle looks off to me as well. Hollands have oversized balls exactly like REEDS, check the example that was posted, balls are twice the diameter of the handle. Yours look, well like normal balls
drivesitfar
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CRS: i hope you paid more than $5 for this one, but it really doesn't matter what you paid for it. WELL DONE!!
you had to have a very nice Estate sale company or seller to let you hack away at the old work bench for that long. now those are the pictures i'd like to see posted cause i have spent more than a few minutes getting a vise off an old bench while 50 guys made comments walking by me (good and not so good).
i don't have one of those flush mounts or that little one that adds on to either to give it a few more angles. i think i'm missing the pipe jaws on both of mine too, but i think i might have a pair of pipe jaws i found without a vise in site a while back that might work.
i guess MBS is hoping Christmas is going have a red or orange piece in a box for him? is he your little brother??
ALL: I'm still looking and not finding very much, but maybe slowing down to buying a vise a week is a good thing since i'm selling or giving away about that many too.
you had to have a very nice Estate sale company or seller to let you hack away at the old work bench for that long. now those are the pictures i'd like to see posted cause i have spent more than a few minutes getting a vise off an old bench while 50 guys made comments walking by me (good and not so good).
i don't have one of those flush mounts or that little one that adds on to either to give it a few more angles. i think i'm missing the pipe jaws on both of mine too, but i think i might have a pair of pipe jaws i found without a vise in site a while back that might work.
i guess MBS is hoping Christmas is going have a red or orange piece in a box for him? is he your little brother??
ALL: I'm still looking and not finding very much, but maybe slowing down to buying a vise a week is a good thing since i'm selling or giving away about that many too.
CRSINMICH
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CRS: i hope you paid more than $5 for this one, but it really doesn't matter what you paid for it. WELL DONE!!
you had to have a very nice Estate sale company or seller to let you hack away at the old work bench for that long. now those are the pictures i'd like to see posted cause i have spent more than a few minutes getting a vise off an old bench while 50 guys made comments walking by me (good and not so good).
i don't have one of those flush mounts or that little one that adds on to either to give it a few more angles. i think i'm missing the pipe jaws on both of mine too, but i think i might have a pair of pipe jaws i found without a vise in site a while back that might work.
i guess MBS is hoping Christmas is going have a red or orange piece in a box for him? is he your little brother??
Drives: These estate sale companies must be talking to each other. This time I had to pay $24 for the whole shebang. No benches were damaged in the extraction of the flush mount just a few scraped knuckles. Apparently the guy bolted the mount to the top and sometime later when he added some understructure for something else he ended up burying the nuts. Luckily he only used two bolts. Unluckily they were in the rear holes. Luckily one of the tools for sale was a keyhole hacksaw. Unluckily it was dull dull dull! I was finally able to cut the heads off the bolts and use the crow bar to pry the base up. If these guys don't stop mounting their vises incorrectly I'm just going to stop buying them.
Yes, mbs is my younger brother and yes he is hinting about the flush mount. I think I'll give it to him this time so SHHHHH.
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MissileBear
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MB
That Hollands looks good for a user. That handle looks off to me as well. Hollands have oversized balls exactly like REEDS, check the example that was posted, balls are twice the diameter of the handle. Yours look, well like normal balls
I started a thread a while back asking about the handle balls specifically; the consensus was that the balls are peened on. After posting that thread however, I noticed that balls on some of the later Hollands vises matched the style I have. See:
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=179053
You'll notice on this vise that the front knob is still cylindrical (post 1924 they switched to a rounded front knob) but the lettering is smaller, vertical instead of arching, and a different font.
This could support the theory that mine is a transitional model, or simply has a replacement handle from a later model.
I have to go down to HD tonight to get a few 5/8" bolts for mounting this vise to my bench. It will do just fine as my user vise in the basement
scooternut
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MB
Clearly I'm no Hollands expert, i do own one of the REED clones (?) and was basing my observation off of that and the other REED type similar Hollands that I have seen. Good vise either way, I have my 14 mounted up in a trailer hitch receiver arrangement (welded under a bench) holding a porta band adapted for bench use.
Clearly I'm no Hollands expert, i do own one of the REED clones (?) and was basing my observation off of that and the other REED type similar Hollands that I have seen. Good vise either way, I have my 14 mounted up in a trailer hitch receiver arrangement (welded under a bench) holding a porta band adapted for bench use.
jakemac
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Finally picked up another vise this morning. Not a great vise, but it definitely has style.
No haggling on the first day of the estate sale, so I had to pay the tag price of $25.
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3-1/2" jaw
The flipper handle on the swivel lock was bent and the lock was seized. A little love with my biggest deadblow hammer freed it up. The main handle is true.
The jaw inserts are small, and the serrations a bit dull, but still serviceable and undamaged. The vise has some minor dings on the anvil, a few chips in the paint, and some minor surface rust, but overall it's in great condition.
The vise was used, but not abused. The PO took good care of it.
No haggling on the first day of the estate sale, so I had to pay the tag price of $25.
Craftsman (Heritage badge)
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3-1/2" jaw
The flipper handle on the swivel lock was bent and the lock was seized. A little love with my biggest deadblow hammer freed it up. The main handle is true.
The jaw inserts are small, and the serrations a bit dull, but still serviceable and undamaged. The vise has some minor dings on the anvil, a few chips in the paint, and some minor surface rust, but overall it's in great condition.
The vise was used, but not abused. The PO took good care of it.
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Mark in Indiana
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Here's an interesting CL vise ad that I stumbled upon...
http://bgky.craigslist.org/tls/5853499270.html
http://bgky.craigslist.org/tls/5853499270.html
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joe.striper
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Wilton C3. Buy it for 400 and get a new base from autopts.
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GETRIDAONE
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Nice looking Wilton Joe !!
Turned out nice!
Craptain
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$10 vise for me today. This is a Charles Parker 29x. I bought it from an estate clearance friend. It was going to be $25 till he saw the damage then he dropped the price. It is usable as long as it is not opened to far but might become a parts vise. Great pity as condition is excellent in every other way.
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I noticed your c0 has the pins for the pipe jaws. I also just sold a 1977 wilton c0 but it had the set screws for the pipe jaws instead. Why did wilton make both styles in the same year?Both pins and set screws were available in 1977? Seems odd,
RagTopTA
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I have a Wilton bullet with a 76 date, it has the pins holding in the pipe jaws. I cant find the original pins anywhere online its like they dont even offer them.... anyone have a source for then?
joe.striper
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Just make them. Simple enough, or tap one side and through bolt them with a ss steel allen head bolt. I almost did that with this one.
Outlawmws
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Craptsin what size jaws does the 29X have?
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dutchgray
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View media item 65105View media item 65106View media item 65107The Parker 474 that CW posted a week or two back.
Unfortunately broken and repaired but still working well.
Needs a replacement spindle collar if anyone has one and in a perfect world another static jaw. Has 41 stamped into the static jaw rotating surface.
Unfortunately broken and repaired but still working well.
Needs a replacement spindle collar if anyone has one and in a perfect world another static jaw. Has 41 stamped into the static jaw rotating surface.
Outlawmws
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Found it, 3-1/4" jaws, 33 lbs, (1930 catalog)
Craptain
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3 1/4" quite a heavy vise for such small jaws.
Edit. See you found it.
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Nice score! I just got another Versa Vise myself yesterday with the pipe jaw inserts but no drop down mount. Pictures later.