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How about a quick peek at the back side?

I can do that once I get better lighting in the garage. Stand by.

I know that you are just getting started on the interior; but please remember to put a fire escape device by the second story windows. Hopefully you will never need them. Sometimes you really need them!

That's a good thought in most cases Bill, but in this house...



...the main roof areas with 12/12 pitch flare out at the bottom 4' to a 6/12 pitch.



Look at the roof just below the dormer windows at the roof pitch change.



Below that yellow line it's a 6/12 pitch that you literally can open the dormer window and step out on that roof surface and walk anywhere on the bottom portion of the roof. On that lower roof section you're only about 10' above the ground.

In our old house the 2nd story rooms had fire escape ladders because there was no roof sections below them. Your point in most cases is well taken Bill. Thanks for pointing it out.

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Some Interior Progress

These pictures are a couple weeks old but you might find them somewhat interesting, especially when comparing them to current ones.



I really like this picture. It shows the house has lots of nooks and crannies. I find it visually interesting. Not everything is a rectangular box with 90º angles.



The walls and ceiling surfaces blend together in this picture, but not for long. Note the pile of lumber covered in the center of the floor.



The doorway to the left is for the room under the stairs.



That room is where the house wiring harness terminates and will contain an electronics rack for the sound and video systems.



Eventually that space in the background will be filled with fine Hickory cabinetry and filled with Chris's home cooking! :drool:



During the dry walling and painting the fireplace was covered to protect it.

Those were some old interior pictures. I'll get current ones posted shortly. It hasn't been all concrete driveway and garage doors around here. :)

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I have been away for a month due to too much work, but glad to be back at this point. I'm torn as well, I loved being able to catch up in one long setting, but hate that the fast progress is now back to real time which is merely quick compared to most other builds.

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Thanks for the info on your control joints. now garage doors again. if you have a more detailed post about them coming that is fine if not before i forget i want to ask about what lift mechanisms/motors you used. and the cut lines in the doors. why are they there? does it help with warping? i would think a solid long piece of wood is more aesthetically pleasing. i know i have seen solid doors that lift as one piece. but my guess would be that your doors "break" like most garge doors we see these days and that is the need for the cut lines. but i just want to verify.
 

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Incredible build - the garage doors are just absolutely beautiful. I'll have to make sure that I show my Dad - he loves stuff like that and getting caught up in the little details that just make a project right.

I'm looking forward to seeing the interior come together as well. I'm sure that will be wonderfully handled as well. Just curious, saw that your network, A/V wiring pulled, any thought to Lighting Controls? Dimmers, automated gear, etc? Working for one of the top companies in that arena makes me ask about stuff like that. We also manufacture automated window treatments as well that tie into the lighting. Some really fantastic stuff can be accomplished.

Thanks as always for giving us an insiders view into your forever home build.

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Thanks for the info on your control joints. now garage doors again. if you have a more detailed post about them coming that is fine if not before i forget i want to ask about what lift mechanisms/motors you used. and the cut lines in the doors. why are they there? does it help with warping? i would think a solid long piece of wood is more aesthetically pleasing. i know i have seen solid doors that lift as one piece. but my guess would be that your doors "break" like most garge doors we see these days and that is the need for the cut lines. but i just want to verify.

Thanks for the question. Around here because of potential snow piling up against the outside of a garage door and keeping it from opening, a single piece door that swings out and then up are rarely used. For overhead doors we use segmented doors that open straight up.



My doors are each made up of 4 segmented panels. Panels #2-#4 are made as a single panel and then cut horizontally. That way all the grain pattern in vertical boards line up. Panel #1 is separate and that's purely a matter of preference. I just think they look better this way.

I'll post more information about the doors at a later date.

It's come a long ways from the foundation walls we were looking at back in April! Stunning, just STUNNING!!:beer::thumbup:

Ahhhhh, there's someone who's been paying attention.



In fact Laine we started to break ground April 13th, almost 7 months ago exactly and I sometimes can't believe how fast the time has gone. Even more now that the exterior is largely done and the interior is really taking shape.

Incredible build - the garage doors are just absolutely beautiful. I'll have to make sure that I show my Dad - he loves stuff like that and getting caught up in the little details that just make a project right.

I'm looking forward to seeing the interior come together as well. I'm sure that will be wonderfully handled as well. Just curious, saw that your network, A/V wiring pulled, any thought to Lighting Controls? Dimmers, automated gear, etc? Working for one of the top companies in that arena makes me ask about stuff like that. We also manufacture automated window treatments as well that tie into the lighting. Some really fantastic stuff can be accomplished.

Thanks as always for giving us an insiders view into your forever home build.

Randy

Thank you Randy for your positive thoughts and comments. Please pass the thread information to your Dad. Sounds like he'd enjoy reading about our adventures. As we proceed I'll have information on some of the various controls and devices we're installing. Sounds like you'll be most interested in those. Stand by. :thumbup:

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Some of today's activity.



The driveway extension was completed connecting it with the barn pad.



More is getting poured tomorrow.



We finished around the corner by the barn but the really big pour is tomorrow.



Work in the interior has been steadily progressing.



The wood paneling on the ceiling is almost done...



I'll have more later because I'm pretty tired right now. Thanks everyone.

Thomas
 

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Morning Thomas and Chris,

You deserve to be tired by the end of every day.

Your progress continues to be just incredible, certainly in part due to your excellent planning.

The big pour will probably also wrap up a certain amount of the "tidying up"

I find I want to respond every time you post, but mostly it's just further comments of admiration for what you guys have done so far.

The interior is coming together beautifully too.
 

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BB: the house is coming along nicely inside and out. with all the cement work you've been doing and poured the last week or so and you are mentioning a BIG POUR tomorrow i can hardly weight to see the pictures.

best of luck with that and from the sounds of it the compacter did it's job and i hope your bride's feet have recovered from being shaken for days at a time (and yours too, but you didn't mention it like she did).

crossing my fingers and toes you get decent weather today, but maybe you already had that figured in. around here the weather can change good or bad in 5-10 minutes and the weatherman just predicts rain for 6-9 months every year.

cheers
 

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Good morning Thomas,
your attention to detail continues to amazed me. :bowdown:

Do you know what your concrete contractor is using as a base for your driveway?
And what protections will you take to protect the concrete from salt damage?

Thanks for sharing, you're literally burning the candle at both ends these last 7 months.
 

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Chris and Thomas - The house is looking great! Thank you both for continuing to take us along on this journey.

How did you handle the joints between the fireplace and the wall and ceiling? Is there a gap behind the stonework for the wallboard and paneling?
 

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Hi Thomas,

I gotta say I love that wood paneling on the ceiling!!! The place is looking great!!! You may win "the most concrete on the GJ" award.

Joe
 

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It finally happened... "the end" for me and I'm finally caught up and officially "live" with progress. Its been a week of reading and laughing getting through this novel of a post.

I've enjoyed every second. Thomas you remind me a lot of my own father (also named Thomas) He can do anything and build anything. He turned 76 years young this year. He's never had the means to tackle anything like what you've done in this post.

I'm blown away at the sheer scope of your work and the attention to detail. Its amazing the planning involved and how it all seems to fit perfectly in the end. You truly are one in a million. (and Chris is a saint, too, for allowing you to do it and being there with you every step of the way.)

It's been said countless times over the 515 pages.... this is the best post on the internet. It really is.

The only thing I can contribute or add is that I think I know (or know of) the acquaintance of yours with the 68 Vette who participated in drag week. Steve Hoch, maybe? If so I sold him parts through my previous employer and he currently races the car with a friend of mine in the Pro E85 class.

Again, after reading all 515 pages I'm still in awe at what you've done with the property and how you've welcomed in thousands of strangers into your life...

(but to be honest... I don't believe there will ever be a test...)

Mike
 

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Wow, that driveway is reminiscent of a race track! Kind of slippery, but driver skill will play a big part in negotiating the trickier parts of the circuit!

Love, love, LOVE the T&G lid in the main room! Good stuff. You and Chris have great taste in architecture!
 
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House and driveway look amazing!! As always the attention to detail blows me away :bowdown: But my OCD is making me ask, will you be blending the spot I colored in red in with the rest of the driveway...Really sorry but I had to ask :lol:
 

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Don't be sorry you asked, that was my question also. :dunno:

You just beat me to it.



It's been bugging me also but I know that there has to be a plan for that. I've been waiting with bated breath to see what he's got for it.

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The wood paneling on the ceiling is almost done...



I'll have more later because I'm pretty tired right now. Thanks everyone.

Thomas

Tell us if you got to play with the Festool Kapex saw! Want one, just hard to justify the cost of saw and stand, but the rail forward design would solve a couple of issues in regards to space... I've seen how well their other tools deal with dust and can only imagine the Kapex does the same.

Nice work as always, thank you for keeping up the hard work of documenting this build and all that you and Chris do.

Cheers,

David
 

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I thought the same thing about the corner but realize that would be a very weak point and could easily be damaged. As much as the aesthetics are displeasing this would be a case where form would follow function.
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I thought the same thing about the corner but realize that would be a very weak point and could easily be damaged. As much as the aesthetics are displeasing this would be a case where form would follow function.
JB
Agreed. I imagine Mr. Thomas has a visually appealing solution up his sleeve all the same.
 
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Conspiracy ?????

House and driveway look amazing!! As always the attention to detail blows me away :bowdown: But my OCD is making me ask, will you be blending the spot I colored in red in with the rest of the driveway...Really sorry but I had to ask :lol:

Don't be sorry you asked, that was my question also. :dunno:
You just beat me to it.

It's been bugging me also but I know that there has to be a plan for that. I've been waiting with bated breath to see what he's got for it.

Jeff


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glad i am not the only one that the little concrete corner was bugging.

I thought the same thing about the corner but realize that would be a very weak point and could easily be damaged. As much as the aesthetics are displeasing this would be a case where form would follow function.
JB

Agreed. I imagine Mr. Thomas has a visually appealing solution up his sleeve all the same.

I sense a vast conspiracy here! :D

JB has it right; that little sliver corner would be continuously problematic. Based on its location and shape it would be broken in no time. The solution was to remove it. Form follows function in this case. Now what to do with the resulting, ummm blunt corner.........

After a 15 hour day today (Chris had to come out after 10pm to get me to stop working. I was back filling the driveway edges in the dark. :eek: She has the patience of a saint!!) I'm really, really tired but before I leave, this is for all my friends here...









I'll have more for you later but for now...................

Tired Thomas
 

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Just WOW on that drive.

Having walked and driven it, the photos certainly do not give the full perspective of its size and length.

Once the garden and groundworks are competed to blend the whole lot it's going to be even more impressive.
 

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...JB has it right...

Tired Thomas

Once again great work, and great amounts of work Thomas and Chris. Also I love hearing those words above, doesn't happen very often. Get some rest but I'm sure by now you are hard at it again.
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BB & VII: AMAZING is all i can say. i'm still trying to find a good person to pour a new 20 x 50 driveway and you maybe poured 20 of them this past week. WELL DONE!!

i also hope you didn't have any late night 4 legged critters out walking on all your new cement.

everything is really starting to come together and i bet both of your are tired and smiling.

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I was finally able to get him to stop with the tractor (very noisy and it was definitely dark) and let the neighbors sleep. (He was even hand-shoveling gravel for awhile since he couldn't get the bucket close enough to thee carport posts.) He ate a quick dinner before posting and getting to bed. He was back at it before 7am (trying to beat the incoming rain). The next 10 days will still be relatively mild for this time of year, so outside work can still make progress. I'm sure Tom will try to get in at least one more mowing before the "season" is done.

Chris
 

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It's been bugging me also but I know that there has to be a plan for that. I've been waiting with bated breath to see what he's got for it.

Jeff

Be a great place for one of those sign posts that have arrows pointing in different directions!!
Instead of miles, he could put steps...
 

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Every time I check in on your adventure Thomas, I see more amazing attention to detail, resulting in a beautiful home. Looking forward to my midwest trip (might be the Hot Rod Power Tour) in '17 to meet you and Chris. :beer: Dennis
 
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This and That......

Good morning Thomas,
your attention to detail continues to amazed me. :bowdown:

Do you know what your concrete contractor is using as a base for your driveway?
And what protections will you take to protect the concrete from salt damage?

Thanks for sharing, you're literally burning the candle at both ends these last 7 months.

Hi red, I'm finally able to respond to your questions.

The base material for the concrete was CA6 which is also referred to as road pack. Once compacted, it's extremely hard.

The sealer they used is on the concrete is an oil based product which should go a long way toward protecting the concrete from salt damage. In the garage where the cars will be parked and salt will dripping off of them, I'm just going to lay down some visqueen for this winter. Next spring once it warms up a bit I'm going to install porcelain tile on the garage floor. That will take care of any salt issues.

Thanks for your patience waiting for me to get back with you. Good questions.

Chris and Thomas - The house is looking great! Thank you both for continuing to take us along on this journey.

How did you handle the joints between the fireplace and the wall and ceiling? Is there a gap behind the stonework for the wallboard and paneling?

There's another good question. Look back at the pictures when the stone was being laid for the fireplace...



...and you'll see a spacer board was temporarily installed on top where the stone meets the ceiling. A spacer board for the sides was used as well but I don't have any pictures that show it. In this picture that side spacer has been removed but the arrows point to where it was.



Here's a side view of the top spacer board which actually was 2 boards put together. The first board was 1/2" (1.2 cm) thick which was to allow the drywall to slide behind the stone and the second spacer board was 3/4" (1.8 cm) thick, the same thickness as the eventual ceiling boards so they could slide behind the stone also.
Note how the top stones had to be relieved in back to provide space for the ceiling.



This shows the fireplace done with the spacer board still in place and...



...here the spacer has been removed.



You really can't see it in this picture, but there's a 3/4" gap between the drywall and the stone.



This shows how the ceiling boards were slid into that 3/4" gap behind the stone...



...to present a nice clean...



... finished look that I like. When first laying the stone in August we had to be thinking several months ahead to this eventual result. As some of you know, building a house is somewhat like chess, anticipating several moves ahead. It's a challenge for sure.

It finally happened... "the end" for me and I'm finally caught up..........

The only thing I can contribute or add is that I think I know (or know of) the acquaintance of yours with the 68 Vette who participated in drag week. Steve Hoch, maybe? If so I sold him parts through my previous employer and he currently races the car with a friend of mine in the Pro E85 class.

Again, after reading all 515 pages I'm still in awe at what you've done with the property and how you've welcomed in thousands of strangers into your life...

Mike

Welcome Mike to our merry band. Yes I do know Steve Hoch, he lives but 5 miles away. I think he's about as sharp a guy as you'll ever find. He really knows his stuff!

Thank you so much for the nice comments. This thread is a 2 way street, that has brought many new friends into our lives which has been most pleasant for us. :)

Tell us if you got to play with the Festool Kapex saw! Want one, just hard to justify the cost of saw and stand, but the rail forward design would solve a couple of issues in regards to space... I've seen how well their other tools deal with dust and can only imagine the Kapex does the same.

Nice work as always, thank you for keeping up the hard work of documenting this build and all that you and Chris do.

Cheers,

David

Quite right David,



...the KAPEX is an extremely well thought out tool.



I'm using it for all the interior trim work. It captures a good amount of the sawdust. Very little gets out.



It makes compound cuts like this very easy to manage.



I can make 1/2º angle changes in both axis to the saw quickly and accurately.



I like it.....a lot!




The two lasers that show the left and right side of where the blade will cut helps speed up positioning the material in the saw.



Trimming the house using it so far has been a real pleasure...



...with some good results. ;)

Stand by for more.


I was finally able to get him to stop with the tractor (very noisy and it was definitely dark) and let the neighbors sleep. (He was even hand-shoveling gravel for awhile since he couldn't get the bucket close enough to thee carport posts.) He ate a quick dinner before posting and getting to bed. He was back at it before 7am (trying to beat the incoming rain). The next 10 days will still be relatively mild for this time of year, so outside work can still make progress. I'm sure Tom will try to get in at least one more mowing before the "season" is done.

Chris

Chris has been exceptionally understanding about all my long hours and late dinners but I think I was pushing it a little bit too far that night. :dunno: But that's all behind us and tomorrow is another day. TLC!!! :bounce:

Smitten Thomas
 
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