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[Provincial]

A Fillister head screw has a lot more material in the head to work with. It will require more grinding to remove the extra, but you will have enough to make the taper extend further toward the threaded area to match the original part.

If you use a Phillips screw, you can cut the straight slot with a thin hacksaw blade. They actually make hacksaw blades in specific thickness for this!

 

[Brorex]

I think the consensus has been that they are not available. I made my own easy enough on a belt grinder with some 1/4 20 screws. Didn't have a lathe then, but it was easy with the grinder.
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Thanks. I actually made some 1/4-20 bolts out of 5/16 key stock last week that I went and bought a die for. Maybe I'll just turn some down.

A Fillister head screw has a lot more material in the head to work with. It will require more grinding to remove the extra, but you will have enough to make the taper extend further toward the threaded area to match the original part.

If you use a Phillips screw, you can cut the straight slot with a thin hacksaw blade. They actually make hacksaw blades in specific thickness for this!

Thankyou, I never knew the proper name of those screws. If I go that route I'll definitely get fillister. And nice to know about the blades. Will come in handy someday

Thanks for the info guys. Here's a pic of the Fulton Iron work vise I posted last week or so. Stripped all the paint cleaned up the rust. Trying to decide on paint for it. Any ideas?

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[Provincial]

brorex, my Cheney No. 20 was never painted. You might consider boiled linseed oil to keep the "naked" look.

 

[4Nines]

What's a good all-around scale to have a round the shop? I'd like to have something to weigh vises and old tools that I have laying around. I have a forklift so I could either have a hanging type scale or one that I set stuff on. I would think a hanging scale that had a high weight limit would be best?

Maybe something like this hydro scale?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Toledo-Hydr...535247?hash=item2cb7b331cf:g:On8AAOSwImRYMgMQ

 

[wrenchguy]

Here's a 7 inch Yost Double swiveler I picked up a few years ago. It's BIG! I haven't actually weighed it but if I had to guess I'd say it's probably between 225-250 pounds.

nice,real nice. i think mine is older and minor different. if i member right the base is super thick. i see if i dig some other photos.

 

[Craptain]

What's a good all-around scale to have a round the shop? I'd like to have something to weigh vises and old tools that I have laying around. I have a forklift so I could either have a hanging type scale or one that I set stuff on. I would think a hanging scale that had a high weight limit would be best?

Maybe something like this hydro scale?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Toledo-Hydr...535247?hash=item2cb7b331cf:g:On8AAOSwImRYMgMQ

I have a couple of scales that I use. The best (for me) is a doctor's type scale which is accurate and good to 350 pounds. This is one that has weights that slide along bars. However many people just use a bathroom scale. Beware. The older electronic ones are generally not too accurate and only read to nearest .5 pounds. But that is good enough for most people. I also have a couple of other scales for lower weights. Including an electronic postal scale good to (I think) 25 pounds.
I don't see the advantage of a hanging scale expect for the really big stuff, but I can still weigh the biggest vise on my scale. Just not as easy to move them around.

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[4Nines]

I have a couple of scales that I use. The best (for me) is a doctor's type scale which is accurate and good to 350 pounds. This is one that has weights that slide along bars. However many people just use a bathroom scale. Beware. The older electronic ones are generally not too accurate and only read to nearest .5 pounds. But that is good enough for most people. I also have a couple of other scales for lower weights. Including an electronic postal scale good to (I think) 25 pounds.
I don't see the advantage of a hanging scale expect for the really big stuff, but I can still weigh the biggest vise on my scale. Just not as easy to move them around.

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I'd like a scale that at least goes up to several thousand pounds so that's why I think a crane vise would be best. I have a solid steel table that weighs somewhere in the neighborhood of 6,000 lbs and some power hammers north of that, but I would also like to be able to weight vises up to about 500 lbs. with the same scale.

 

[meatsis]

I'd like a scale that at least goes up to several thousand pounds so that's why I think a crane vise would be best. I have a solid steel table that weighs somewhere in the neighborhood of 6,000 lbs and some power hammers north of that, but I would also like to be able to weight vises up to about 500 lbs. with the same scale.

You have vises that weigh 500 pounds?

 

[4Nines]

You have vises that weigh 500 pounds?

I think so

 

[meatsis]

I think so

Pictures? Please!!!

 

[Mark in Indiana]

Hey guys just wondering if someone can tell me where to get jaw screws for a craftsman 5160. Pics of screw attached. Not sure if screws like this have a name or they're just made like that for this vise. I had to drill them out pulling the jaws and while they work the way they are I'd like to get new ones if at all possible. I'm contemplating trying to turn some down on the lathe but if I could purchase would probably be better quality. Thanks

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Borex,
I make my own. See picture below:

 

[Mark in Indiana]

All,
Here's my Bison knock off vise that I just finished restoring. Although it's manufactured in China, it's machined very well and operates smoothly.

Specifications:
5" jaws
Over 5" opening
2-3/4 jaw depth
180 degree swivel
Weight; 25#
Spring loaded spindle

Here are some B & A pictures. More pictures in my next post.

 

[Rileysan]

Hey guys just wondering if someone can tell me where to get jaw screws for a craftsman 5160. Pics of screw attached. Not sure if screws like this have a name or they're just made like that for this vise. I had to drill them out pulling the jaws and while they work the way they are I'd like to get new ones if at all possible. I'm contemplating trying to turn some down on the lathe but if I could purchase would probably be better quality. Thanks
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You won't find those screws unless you're lucky enough to find NOS. I would modify some hex drive cap screws to use in their place.

Brian

 

[Mark in Indiana]

All,
Here are some more Bison knock off vise pictures. As you can see, they're similarities between it and my Bison 1250-80 vise.

Many would consider me a "vise snob" because I only use & recommend U.S. / European / Australian vises. I'd even say that Taiwan has some good vises. However, this vise proves to me that not all Chinese vises are ****. Yes, most are clunkers, except this one.

I hope to find it a good home.

 

[va.grouseman]

Borex,
I make my own. See picture below:

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=609651&d=1482945407


Yep, the poor man's lathe.---Cheap and hard to beat.

 

[cajunfirehawk]

Quote:
Originally Posted by meatsis View Post
You have vises that weigh 500 pounds?

I think so

Of course we will need to see some pics of these beauties...

 

[Shiftless]

49s:
Pics please!

Is it a Hollands 18 perhaps?

 

[Mooreag47]

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/scz/tls/5930084667.html

Simplex $40.00

 

[meatsis]

49s:
Pics please!

Is it a Hollands 18 perhaps?

Possibly. But that's definitely not 500 pounds. Closer to 300

 

[4Nines]

It's a German Blacksmith vise. I'm currently restoring the steel table that I'm going to bolt it to and hope to be done with that soon. I will post up some pictures once she's ready for action.

 

[Outlawmws]

I managed a freebie today: I stopped at a local heavy equipment dealer/service place last week and asked if they had any "sprockets" off of a track-layer type machine that were worn out scrap. I was told to come back today, and I did...

23-1/2" tip to tip, and 69-1/2 lbs according to my bath scale:

This will become the base ring for the vise stand I've been wanting to build for my Parker 386!

 

[zoomieport]

Nice Outlaw!

 

[meatsis]

It's a German Blacksmith vise. I'm currently restoring the steel table that I'm going to bolt it to and hope to be done with that soon. I will post up some pictures once she's ready for action.

Nice! Can't wait to see it. Does it look anything like this?

This one has 12 inch jaws. Weighs 500 pounds also.

 

[4Nines]

Yup, exactly like that

 

[trijeff]

Wow! A 500# vise on a 6000# table, can't wait to see pics!!

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[va.grouseman]

Now there your tank.

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=609738&d=1482963486


http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=609739&d=1482963486

 

[wrenchguy]

Yost 207 side view, with base. The Reed 207 next to it almost looks like a twin. Both measure 13.5" tall

Reed 207

 

[ckadams00]

I started to clean this up this weekend - got most of it apart, but after removing the retaining screw below the oil hole in front, I have no idea how the handle/screw comes out? Looks like a retaining collar is in there but can't find any screws. I tapped it a few times with a hammer and no movement forward . . .anyone have any insight?

I meant to post up "after" photos of this and never got around to it. Gave this little baby to my brother for Christmas and he was thrilled. Here are a couple of quick shots from my phone.

 

[G-ManBart]

I meant to post up "after" photos of this and never got around to it. Gave this little baby to my brother for Christmas and he was thrilled.

Very nice! I love the old Reed Craftsman series....keep hoping to find one

 

[wrenchguy]

I meant to post up "after" photos of this and never got around to it. Gave this little baby to my brother for Christmas and he was thrilled. Here are a couple of quick shots from my phone.

nice, real nice.

 

[macgee]

Since were talking about Craftsmans, I did a clean up this recent find (Craftsman #5222) even though it doesn't look like it with light cleaners all for the sake of trying to keep the paint; maybe overrated? Still needs a more thorough cleaning.

Here's a break down of the vise in case anyone is interested in seeing the parts to this hex slide rotating jaw vise.

It's a very cool vise but seriously thinking what to do next with it, it would need a full restore and then some or ?

 

[va.grouseman]

Mac, the fact that you have it means that 95% of your problems are solved.---The clean-up is academic.---You can take 2 years to spruce it up.---Can't if you don't have it.---Nice catch.


EDIT-------- Up until say, the last 20 pages, those Octagon Craftsman's have gone practically unnoticed.---Now I am afraid you fellows have spooked the herd.---Now we won't be able to afford one.

 

[macgee]

Mac,
EDIT-------- Up until say, the last 20 pages, those Octagon Craftsman's have gone practically unnoticed.---Now I am afraid you fellows have spooked the herd.---Now we won't be able to afford one.

Sorry

 

[va.grouseman]

Friend of mine sent me this pic.---Does anyone know the maker, or just how large it is?

 

[G-ManBart]

So I have a couple of folks coming over Saturday morning to look at vises, so I made sort of a lineup of those that are done, or nearly so....left the other brands in the other room.

9350, 935, 9400, 9450, 500, 1760, 500S, 1760, 450 (swivel base on the way), 1760.

And some folks doubt that the Wilton magnet works...

 

[drivesitfar]

49's: i agree I would love to see pictures (a lot of them if you can) of your big blacksmith vise. also if you want to share that pallet of little guys you have i'm sure more than i would love to see more pictures of them too.

as TJ said you can also post pictures of a 6000 pound table cause i bet we all would love to see that especially if you have a 250 pounder sitting on it.

cheers

GMAN: hell you've cornered the WILTON resale market there. wasn't only 2 or 3 months ago that you were looking for your first vise? keep up the good work and your restorations keep improving every one. i like that little table you found too.

Mac: it looks like maybe the static's jaw is missing some cast under it or am i seeing things? other than dirt what other issues? how do you like the action of this Craftsman hex vise?

 

[Bcom]

Gman-- im coming over too!

 

[4Nines]

Here's a pic of my Wilton 800N with the 6,000# table in the background

 

[Bcom]

Since were talking about Craftsmans, I did a clean up this recent find (Craftsman #5222) even though it doesn't look like it with light cleaners all for the sake of trying to keep the paint; maybe overrated? Still needs a more thorough cleaning.

Here's a break down of the vise in case anyone is interested in seeing the parts to this hex slide rotating jaw vise.

It's a very cool vise but seriously thinking what to do next with it, it would need a full restore and then some or ?

Can i have it?

 

[jakemac]

Friend of mine sent me this pic.---Does anyone know the maker, or just how large it is?

Looks like a larger version of Joe's Millhoff(?).