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Z3K3Y

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Thanks for the help on the hollands carriage makers vise. Still waiting to hear back from the lady to arrange a day to drive up to see her. in the mean time. I picked up these 2 yesterday . Record No 2100 and Bison No . 125 swivel
 

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bluebolt:
All things considered I think you had an excellent year :beer:

And a Happy New Year to all. Happy hunting.
 
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zkling

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And one of the swivel locks just sorta broke off while in storage on the shelf.
Huh?!?! :dunno:

Happy New Year Yinz guys.

JKB

Don't think it broke off, just unscrewed completely, allowing the swivel lock bolt to drop down all the way. Look at the surface of the bolt, it's not a fracture surface.
 

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Are any parts interchangeable between monarch and prentiss mainly asking about the vice nut on my monarch 224 it's proving to be difficult to find. If all else fails I'm just gonna grind the previous repair out and full pen it with a tig

Regarding Monarch 224 interchangeable parts with Prentiss. Since Monarchs are rebadged Prentiss' you just have to match up models. I just personally picked up a Monarch 222. This model, I believe, is exactly the same as a Prentiss 95. Swivel, 3-tab base with single swivel lock and 5 1/2 inch jaws. BTW, What size are the jaws on your Monarch 224?
 

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I thought I would finish this little Reed 203R yesterday but the paint wasn't quite dry. This will be the first restoration of the new year instead of the last. I'm not crazy about the color but I had a can of paint that needed using.

Nice job Get. I like that Copper / Bronze color. I painted a Prentiss #20 the same color and the new owner stripped it and painted it bright Red that Oldie likes. I gotta paint one a red to get a smile out of Oldie. I had time and finished a Prentiss 19 swivel jaw today. Had fun restoring this one.
 

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Previously posted by PghJKB.

What's the matter, don't you trust the description of this expert seller?
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Yea, how does a 5/8'' bolt break just setting on a shelf?---But that makes for a good bargaining chip.---It really doesn't look used.
 

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Regarding Monarch 224 interchangeable parts with Prentiss. Since Monarchs are rebadged Prentiss' you just have to match up models. I just personally picked up a Monarch 222. This model, I believe, is exactly the same as a Prentiss 95. Swivel, 3-tab base with single swivel lock and 5 1/2 inch jaws. BTW, What size are the jaws on your Monarch 224?

It has 6 inch jaws
 

GETRIDAONE

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Kevin,. Your choice of color was much better than mine. It seems like all the vises I have done lately have been some shade of green. I will go to a auto parts store and see what I can find in the Dupli-Color car paint section. I just couldn't go back with the plain gray on that Reed.
Your Prentiss came out great !
 

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Kevin,. Your choice of color was much better than mine. It seems like all the vises I have done lately have been some shade of green. I will go to a auto parts store and see what I can find in the Dupli-Color car paint section. I just couldn't go back with the plain gray on that Reed.
Your Prentiss came out great !

I know what you mean Get, this Rust-Oleum Hammered Dark Green color shows up well in pic's. it is a nice Vise color in my opinion. I will try a Satin Blue on my Reed 1C. I like that color on the Reed Combination vises.

KMS, do you clear coat the raw metal when you restore, or how do you treat it so it don't flash on you?

I live where our humidity is real low, shucks today it's snowing and we are at a 25% level in my shop. I use a rust preventive on all my bare steel. Sometimes I use this Mold Shield or Cosmoline Rust Veto. My bare jaws will flash rust after a month or so.
On another note, I am working on a big Reed and you guys know which one. It has lived outside for much of it's life, a quick wire wheel and it cleaned up pretty good. I guess if you keep a little oil or grease on these old vises they can take the rain and humidity, I was quite surprised. I will add pic's later of this Reed project, getting close to finishing.
 

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Sometimes you get a good deal and sometimes you screw up. I stopped by a place selling antiques and stuff. I spied this Reed 203 1/2R and the Wilton 9350. The Reed is stuck closed and will be a project. The Wilton looked OK, I unscrewed it about an inch and the teeth on the jaws looked good and no obvious damage. I was in a hurry to make it to a hospital appointment so I made what I thought was a decent deal.

Then I got home and unscrewed the Wilton the rest of the way :sad:

Plus the rest of the slide is stuck inside the main body.

Now I need some beer, or two or three...:beer2::beer2:

Oooohhh that *****. been there too many times myself BUT there is always a silver lining. I left you a pm....
 

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Previously posted by KMScott.

I live where our humidity is real low, shucks today it's snowing and we are at a 25% level in my shop. I use a rust preventive on all my bare steel. Sometimes I use this Mold Shield or Cosmoline Rust Veto. My bare jaws will flash rust after a month or so.
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KM, count your blessings, here in southern Va. they will flash over night if not treated with something.---I've used clear coat and I've coated them with a thin skim of clean oil.---But I cant wait long about doing it.
 
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Finished up a couple of vises over the weekend....a clean, older 500S that I decided needed a set of KMScott jaws, and a 1760 done up in Snap-On Extreme Green, also with a set of KMScott jaws. :rocker:

I tried something new on the 1760 that I think I'm going to use again in the future. I put a coat of Spraymaxx 2K clear coat over the Snap-On paint. It's a true automotive-grade two-part clear coat. You have to activate it by hitting a plunger on the bottom which allows the two parts to mix. The good thing is it won't mess with the underlying paint the way many rattle-can clear does, and it doesn't get damaged by solvents or gasoline (very popular for motorcycle restoration projects). The bad parts are that it's expensive, it's toxic, and you have to use all of it within 24-48 hours (depends on the temperature).

If you really want to go crazy, wet sand with 800 grit after 12 hours and then hit it with another coat....very impressive.

I noticed the black letters weren't quite right after taking this pic, so I did a little touch up and they're much better now.





 
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G-ManBart

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Thanks guys! I'm starting to get the hang of it.

Va.,

The table is a small welding table I bought at auction in November. It had a 500S bolted to it that had a small crack in the dynamic jaw support, and a cracked base, but I needed the inner ring and swivel locks to finish the 500S I just posted, so it all worked out. I added casters to the table and it's really handy for welding, painting and posing pictures...the vise was just a bonus.
 

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Hey Rusty 65 - whats the manufacturer of that blue paint on the double swivel LA ? is there a paint code ?
 

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Originally posted by Jeffmoss26.
I am now the proud owner of a Wilton Cadet!
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I want one of those to.---Been looking at them for 3 years, but they just ask too darn much for them.---But the Cadets do kind of round out a collection of Wiltons.---JMO.---I'll catch somebody sleeping one of these days.---Stealth and Patience, on with the hunt.

That's a nice one Jeff.:thumbup:
 

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Previous homeowner left a WARDS Deluxe Quality vise when I bought my house. So little info out there on these. Its needs some TLC and onto my bench it will go.

I have seen pics with the 112/113 cast into it. This one (in my possession) has 118/117 casting marks.
 
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Finished up a couple of vises over the weekend....a clean, older 500S that I decided needed a set of KMScott jaws, and a 1760 done up in Snap-On Extreme Green, also with a set of KMScott jaws. :rocker:

I tried something new on the 1760 that I think I'm going to use again in the future. I put a coat of Spraymaxx 2K clear coat over the Snap-On paint. It's a true automotive-grade two-part clear coat. You have to activate it by hitting a plunger on the bottom which allows the two parts to mix. The good thing is it won't mess with the underlying paint the way many rattle-can clear does, and it doesn't get damaged by solvents or gasoline (very popular for motorcycle restoration projects). The bad parts are that it's expensive, it's toxic, and you have to use all of it within 24-48 hours (depends on the temperature).

If you really want to go crazy, wet sand with 800 grit after 12 hours and then hit it with another coat....very impressive.

I noticed the black letters weren't quite right after taking this pic, so I did a little touch up and they're much better now.





Both beauties :beer:
 

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Hey Rusty 65 - whats the manufacturer of that blue paint on the double swivel LA ? is there a paint code ?
I used Plasti-kote Chevrolet blue no 201 engine enamel. Amazon and a few other places also stock it.
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Originally posted by Jeffmoss26.
I am now the proud owner of a Wilton Cadet!
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I want one of those to.---Been looking at them for 3 years, but they just ask too darn much for them.---But the Cadets do kind of round out a collection of Wiltons.---JMO.---I'll catch somebody sleeping one of these days.---Stealth and Patience, on with the hunt.

That's a nice one Jeff.:thumbup:

Theres been a wilton cadet for sale in lower michigan for a long time for $200. Its looks to be in repairable condition and im sure price is negotiable.

http://detroit.craigslist.org/wyn/tls/5881915229.html
 

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More great work from the G-man! :beer:

Bcom:
IIWY, I would give that Cadet more than a quick check before laying down any cash. I bought a Chicago 9400 more than a year ago that looked like that (plus it was frozen shut) and I got it unstuck but still haven't been able to get it to slide smoothly. However on the plus side it had almost perfect jaws, a fine swivel base and all the handles were straight. I paid $60.

KMS:
Another :thumbup: for your Prentiss 19. One of my favorite makers. Love the color!
 
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since I posted a few days ago been following this long thead, got me thinking about some of my vices and getting to restore a few.

but here's a pic of one I had but sold a couple years ago. paid $1 for it at auction--it was on a nice stand I repurposed for a grinder. I never used it and as it had a broken post on one side and it just sat in the way so I answered a CL wanted ad and sold it to a guy for $35...

it's an odd one I haven't seen on here yet (unless I missed it). Emmert from early teens, 3 separate jaws that spin, and it flips up. you can see the broken round piece in the 2nd pic.

kinda wish I kept it now, seeing how you guys are able to restore these things so beautifully...but it went to a good home.
 

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