scooternut
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Wow, love this one! He stole it from us, this thing should've stayed in Pa!
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The VISES of Garage Journal
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Wow, love this one! He stole it from us, this thing should've stayed in Pa!
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wrenchguy
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uuuuh why are you working in the dark? i believe its a 800, no n, i believe that means something….. but don't remember what.
You are making me miss my Hollands 24!
KMScott
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Got it Mike, I have been wanting to make endcaps for the 800 series for some time but had no dimensions. See if these numbers correspond with your vise in the day light when you can see it. Check the depth of the casting bore to be sure I have that dimension right. The dimension you gave me seems pretty long. I came up with .475 deep.
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I recently purchased this vise off eBay. I have another one similar that I've posted pictures of before. I searching for more of them (go figure) as I would like to study the history of them more in depth.
Does anyone happen to have any vises of this style? If so please post up some photos!
Many Thanks!
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trijeff
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Would LOVE one of those VISEs, I really only see them comenup in the UK (at least two listed currently). The prices are typically really reasonable (low, in fact), but the shipping is prohibitive. Believe these are a Peter Wright. Nice score!!
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CrotalusAtrox
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Cleaned up the Hollands and got it on the bench came out pretty good. I believe the green is the original paint sure looks like it but I could be wrong. Found a few more the last two days figure I would post them. Wilton C2 1967 vintage the year I was born heavy sucker, C0 1970 vintage, a 4.5 Chicago Wilton cant remember what the model is no date and the Hollands. I sold three different ones over the weekend and a big Dayton grinder and a Baldor grinder and I was thinking my shop looked kind of bare and then boom they come out of the woodwork. Well my nights and weekends will stay busy.
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FMC1959
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I recently purchased this vise off eBay. I have another one similar that I've posted pictures of before. I searching for more of them (go figure) as I would like to study the history of them more in depth.
Does anyone happen to have any vises of this style? If so please post up some photos!
Many Thanks!
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I had someone down the street from me selling a 6", just like yours, but not as clean and unmarked like yours...but still decent condition. He wanted $500 dollars for it, a bit much, couldn't pull the trigger. Saw the add for a few more weeks, then disappeared, I guess someone went for it.
Still have some regrets on not getting it, it was a really stout vise.
Nice buy
MissileBear
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CrotalusAtrox - That Hollands cleaned up real nice. I have not seen that green color before on a Hollands.
I just missed a Hollands 26 that showed up 4 hours away from me on CL. It would have gone great with my Hollands 26 (prior to the naming convention change). I was so bummed
I just missed a Hollands 26 that showed up 4 hours away from me on CL. It would have gone great with my Hollands 26 (prior to the naming convention change). I was so bummed
drivesitfar
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MB: start buying stuff in your area just to trade cause i've got a hunch Joe or maybe Meatsis owns that big Hollands you missed out on. they like 2 or more vises for ones if they are different and maybe ones they don't own. just a thought. of course it could have just went to a guy that needed a nice vise and there are not much better vises than a 6 inch Holland's.
FMC: thanks for taking what must have been weeks or maybe months to put all that information on a spread sheet. once i get my new cell phone i'll take a few family photos and if you might need any just PM me (or email me if you still have my email) with your email and i'll send you as many as you like.
you are AWESOME!!
CA: Holland's looks great and I see it's already bolted on your bench so did you bump off the Reed 404 or which one?
FMC: thanks for taking what must have been weeks or maybe months to put all that information on a spread sheet. once i get my new cell phone i'll take a few family photos and if you might need any just PM me (or email me if you still have my email) with your email and i'll send you as many as you like.
you are AWESOME!!
CA: Holland's looks great and I see it's already bolted on your bench so did you bump off the Reed 404 or which one?
CrotalusAtrox
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I sold an Athol 624 over the weekend so I had an open spot. The Athol tolerance were tighter then the Hollands. I Like the Hollands but the Reed 404.5 is still my real favorite. I know your not a big fan of Parker's but I really like the 974 use it probably the most probably because of it s location in the shop but also the way the swivel lock operates is the cats meow.
zoomieport
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They were just wondering if there was a date stamp on the slide, there usually isn't on 800's evidently, probably to heavy for them to mess with...
Working in the dark is not a good idea, I just had to work late yesterday...
Thanks again Mike!
Take care!
Mike
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drivesitfar
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CA: in case you are needing another bench one of my GJ friends had some old metal cabinets and he found some 3x8's 10 footers in an old barn that you can see he spiffed up. he also was very careful about drilling any holes on it after maybe 10 coats of epoxy or varathane finish he brushed on, but the first holes were for the Holland's 15 i found him and i'd love to have a big Holland's 6 incher some day.
good to see you can find a use for your new Hollands and maybe my NON LOVE for Parkers is that most of them that i see looks like their jaws were beat on with a BFH for 50 years. i'm happy you and others found some in decent condition to use them like they were meant to be used. i love my non beat to **** ROCK ISLAND 597.
cheers
good to see you can find a use for your new Hollands and maybe my NON LOVE for Parkers is that most of them that i see looks like their jaws were beat on with a BFH for 50 years. i'm happy you and others found some in decent condition to use them like they were meant to be used. i love my non beat to **** ROCK ISLAND 597.
cheers
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wrenchguy
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They were just wondering if there was a date stamp on the slide, there usually isn't on 800's evidently, probably to heavy for them to mess with...
Working in the dark is not a good idea, I just had to work late yesterday...
Thanks again Mike!
Take care!
Mike
i thought it might still be hid in the car…… u know, the girl friend thing u told me about.
good luck man.Mark in Indiana
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All:
Here's a Prentiss Bulldog No. 54 that I just finished (before & after pictures). This was truly a challenge restoration with a cracked slide, broken jaw screw, bent main screw and scars of abuse from a BFH.
Since there was a lot of work to this vise, and I've taken several pictures of the restoration process, I plan to create a thread about this restoration as soon as I put all my notes & pictures together.
Here's a Prentiss Bulldog No. 54 that I just finished (before & after pictures). This was truly a challenge restoration with a cracked slide, broken jaw screw, bent main screw and scars of abuse from a BFH.
Since there was a lot of work to this vise, and I've taken several pictures of the restoration process, I plan to create a thread about this restoration as soon as I put all my notes & pictures together.
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KMScott
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Mark, great job, look forward to reading your restoration steps. Love the paint and lettering. Gonna take notes.
zoomieport
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i thought it might still be hid in the car…… u know, the girl friend thing u told me about.
We're getting it!
It might have to be a 3 or 5 day auction, but we'll make it happen!
Thanks!
Take care!
Mike
G20-Budo
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CA
Those vises look NICE! I'm looking forward to coming by and checking them out in person. The Hollands not only looks to be in better condition than mine, but also newer. I'll text you to set something up.
wrenchguy
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no prob with me, its ur call. i assume u are rounding up some parts with kevin? "bring a ton", is my mantra!
zoomieport
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Yes Sir, I have been in contact with both Kevin and Nick, I think if I get a few new parts, we will get a better price and raise more money for the kids!
Thanks to all of you!
Mike
FMC1959
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Just a quick (OK, not so quick) word about pics on this thread, being that they are a big part of what makes this thread successful and great.
I have been going through many of the early pages (0 to 300) and 9 ot of 10 posts with a pick are gone. You only see a square with an X, or the cat stating missing photo.
This is mainly due to how the pics are added. If you copy and paste, or link a URL, or most other means, they will disappear once they are no longer at the sorce, ir if the person no longer has their photobucket, Flickr or other photo hosting websitr.
The one sure way to make sure the pics stay forever is if they are uploaded to the GJ website. Outlaw has often posted a very detailed post showing how easy this is to do. I thought I had bookmarked but I can't find it now
Outlaw, if you could post it again, I would definitely bookmark it so I have it for future if anyone asks how to do it.
The simple in a few words is save the pic on your PC, anywhere, on your desktop or make a folder for GJ pics. Then you follow Outlaws instructions, which is to use the "paperclip", browse to the folder where you saved the pics and upload, up to 7 per post.
Once you have done this and the post has been "posted", they are on the GJ server and you can even delete those picture if you no longer want them on your PC anymore.
Another good thing about this method is the server automatically resizes the pics, so you never have this pics that extend 5 times the size of a regular post and all the other posts are miniscule on that page.
Anyway, this was my long winded explanation of why we should bother to upload the pics this way. In 5 or 10 years, people looking at these pages will see the pics with the comments and great restorations or finds.....rather than "here is my Reed I got today", with a yawning cat saying picture missing.
BTW, this applies to posts on any thread, not just the vise thread, but the vise thread has been going on so long and is like a vise encyclopedia, we need to keep the pics
I have been going through many of the early pages (0 to 300) and 9 ot of 10 posts with a pick are gone. You only see a square with an X, or the cat stating missing photo.
This is mainly due to how the pics are added. If you copy and paste, or link a URL, or most other means, they will disappear once they are no longer at the sorce, ir if the person no longer has their photobucket, Flickr or other photo hosting websitr.
The one sure way to make sure the pics stay forever is if they are uploaded to the GJ website. Outlaw has often posted a very detailed post showing how easy this is to do. I thought I had bookmarked but I can't find it now
Outlaw, if you could post it again, I would definitely bookmark it so I have it for future if anyone asks how to do it.
The simple in a few words is save the pic on your PC, anywhere, on your desktop or make a folder for GJ pics. Then you follow Outlaws instructions, which is to use the "paperclip", browse to the folder where you saved the pics and upload, up to 7 per post.
Once you have done this and the post has been "posted", they are on the GJ server and you can even delete those picture if you no longer want them on your PC anymore.
Another good thing about this method is the server automatically resizes the pics, so you never have this pics that extend 5 times the size of a regular post and all the other posts are miniscule on that page.
Anyway, this was my long winded explanation of why we should bother to upload the pics this way. In 5 or 10 years, people looking at these pages will see the pics with the comments and great restorations or finds.....rather than "here is my Reed I got today", with a yawning cat saying picture missing.
BTW, this applies to posts on any thread, not just the vise thread, but the vise thread has been going on so long and is like a vise encyclopedia, we need to keep the pics
I did not know that it resized automatically. Thanks for the time saving info.
+1. Awesome job. The gold lettering looks great.
royce
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Wow Mark,
That gold on the old script with the black background looks wonderful.
Fantastic job.
Royce
wrenchguy
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Mark, Nice, real nice, this is why i like the old traditional 1's best.
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meatsis
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Mark killer job on that Prentiss.
va.grouseman
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Mark.---Really nice contrast.---Now how do you bring yourself to peck around on something like that?
FMC1959
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Cleaned up the Hollands and got it on the bench came out pretty good. I believe the green is the original paint sure looks like it but I could be wrong. Found a few more the last two days figure I would post them. Wilton C2 1967 vintage the year I was born heavy sucker, C0 1970 vintage, a 4.5 Chicago Wilton cant remember what the model is no date and the Hollands. I sold three different ones over the weekend and a big Dayton grinder and a Baldor grinder and I was thinking my shop looked kind of bare and then boom they come out of the woodwork. Well my nights and weekends will stay busy.
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Beautiful Hollands, fantastic shape.
I have always loved the Prentiss with that style writing on them, you did an excellant restore and the writing pops even more.
Another good thing about this method is the server automatically resizes the pics, so you never have this pics that extend 5 times the size of a regular post and all the other posts are miniscule on that page.
Anyway, this was my long winded explanation of why we should bother to upload the pics this way. In 5 or 10 years, people looking at these pages will see the pics with the comments and great restorations or finds.....rather than "here is my Reed I got today", with a yawning cat saying picture missing.
BTW, this applies to posts on any thread, not just the vise thread, but the vise thread has been going on so long and is like a vise encyclopedia, we need to keep the pics
I hate when people post pictures uploaded to this site. For one, it's one more click and I have to wait. Second, no matter what screen I look at them on, they're still too small to see good details and the resolution is terrible. I will almost never bother to click on those pictures now...just not worth the time.
drivesitfar
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GMan: while i like CA's pictures cause they line up and i don't have to click on anything if CA changes his online picture hosting for some reason (they charge too much or just go out of business) all his pictures are lost. your pictures go out of frame on my laptop and are too big for me to see in one picture so not a fan of your method as much as Mark's downloaded one.
click on Mark's prentiss he just posted that is in a thumbnail. then click on it again and it fills up the screen. some cell phones and some computers spin for a few seconds like on my cell phone so i have to click on the spinner to get the picture to download.
i used to use PhotoBucket for years, but they changed their methods and i saw too many member's pictures disappearing so i went to downloading pictures using the paperclip method i tell every member to use. if you don't have the same results i do i'm sorry or maybe it's a setting on your laptop or cell phone.
the thumbnail of my daughter in her wedding dress in my sig won't enlarge, but it's probably there more for me than anybody else.
click on Mark's prentiss he just posted that is in a thumbnail. then click on it again and it fills up the screen. some cell phones and some computers spin for a few seconds like on my cell phone so i have to click on the spinner to get the picture to download.
i used to use PhotoBucket for years, but they changed their methods and i saw too many member's pictures disappearing so i went to downloading pictures using the paperclip method i tell every member to use. if you don't have the same results i do i'm sorry or maybe it's a setting on your laptop or cell phone.
the thumbnail of my daughter in her wedding dress in my sig won't enlarge, but it's probably there more for me than anybody else.
va.grouseman
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Is there a step by step process whereby I can transfer my pics from Photobucket to my computer?---Since we are on the subject.---Anyone.
blsnelling
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drivesitfar
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BLS: that is the CHINESE WONDER VISE and comes with many many many brand names. some of the earlier ones were made in Taiwan and as i've mentioned several times in this thread that the CWV is maybe the most loved imported vise in the world and i've yet to find an owner that doesn't love theirs even if it's broken, repaired, welded, full of BONDO or whatever.
there are some old US made ones that are not easily found, but since you are finding a lot of vises you might find some and those are the ones that are worth more than $100. The CWV doesn't sell for a lot of money, but there are some outrageous asking prices so maybe there have been some sales up around $200, but they usually sell for about $50-100.
VA: email me if you get a chance and if you don't still have your email handy then PM me with your email and i'll try to help you figure out how to remove your pictures back to your laptop from Photobucket. i'm not the expert here and maybe there are others that currently use PB that can PM you with an easy method.
ALL: have a great Friday everybody!
there are some old US made ones that are not easily found, but since you are finding a lot of vises you might find some and those are the ones that are worth more than $100. The CWV doesn't sell for a lot of money, but there are some outrageous asking prices so maybe there have been some sales up around $200, but they usually sell for about $50-100.
VA: email me if you get a chance and if you don't still have your email handy then PM me with your email and i'll try to help you figure out how to remove your pictures back to your laptop from Photobucket. i'm not the expert here and maybe there are others that currently use PB that can PM you with an easy method.
ALL: have a great Friday everybody!
va.grouseman
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Blsnelling, that is China made and branded probably 50 different ways.---Not bad vises for every day basement shop work, but for industrial, it won't take that degree of use/abuse for long.---A lot of people have them and are pleased with their performance, but you have to know their limitations.---As with any vise.
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blsnelling
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CWV...love it
454ragtop
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I'm with FMC1959 on the pic hosting on site. Photobucket is a PIA, absolute worst, soon as I click on a pic and it goes to photobucket I just shut it down. Once you upload directly a couple times, you'll see how much easier it is, and the pics will be there forever.
When I click on that picture, and click on it again, it's still not full screen...even on my laptop.
It's also clicking twice instead of clicking zero times for me. When folks upload pictures here, I won't even click on them unless it's something I'm really interested in.
I'm on here using two different laptops, two different desk tops, a phone and two iPads and I rarely have a problem seeing pictures that folks have hosted on Photobucket.
The problems with pictures disappearing aren't normally because Photobucket did something. It's when folks delete them, move them to a different folder, or delete their account. I'm not a fan of Photobucket as a company, so I'm not defending them, just stating that picture loss is usually an error or ignorance on the part of the user.
Honestly, I don't really care much one way or the other. This thread has gotten to the point it's almost useless other than for general "wow, that's nice" sort of viewing. There's no reasonable way to search it, and after 50K posts, it's too long for folks to really go through it.
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FMC1959
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My main point is that whenever you do any kind of searches in vises, so many lead to this site. It is a wealth of information, it is too bad that so many of the early pics are gone.
Like Drives said, any pic you would like to see bigger, click on it a second time and it will enlarge to its own page, from which you can zoom in on as much as you look from there
All these old vises go from 50 to 100 years old and down the road they will be 150 or 200 years old. We are the vise fanatics, if we don't take care to keep the pics, no one will ever know about them many years from now.
If you don't like the process of uploading, don't do it. In 5 to 10 years there may be many gman posts speaking of all these wonderful Wilton his magnet found and the great restorations you did, but all words and no pics.....unfortunate
Like Drives said, any pic you would like to see bigger, click on it a second time and it will enlarge to its own page, from which you can zoom in on as much as you look from there
All these old vises go from 50 to 100 years old and down the road they will be 150 or 200 years old. We are the vise fanatics, if we don't take care to keep the pics, no one will ever know about them many years from now.
If you don't like the process of uploading, don't do it. In 5 to 10 years there may be many gman posts speaking of all these wonderful Wilton his magnet found and the great restorations you did, but all words and no pics.....unfortunate
Since folks are pointing out helpful posting critiques, I'm guessing you were addressing that post to me? It's helpful to use the quote function so that poster knows you were addressing them.
If someone really is worried about all these pictures they could take the time to save them and create an online gallery to host them and make sure they don't disappear.
You're also assuming this site will still exist in 5-10 years. Trust me, after years on forums, even the most popular now sometimes are gone in 5-10 years, or they wind up with hosting problems where the price gets unreasonable, or the host goes out of business. Guess what happens then? They have to migrate to a new host.
Frequently all of the content, including pictures is gone when that happens. Often the posts will be saved, but not the associated media since that's a different kind of data transfer, and it would cost money. Imagine transferring all of the image files on this site to another site...it would be a massive data dump and they normally won't do that. If the new host is willing/able to move the data, they charge for it....so the cost of moving to a new website depends somewhat on how much data has to be transferred.
Photobucket, as annoying as it is, is more likely to be around in 10 years than almost any forum, including this one.
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