#2 X 8" Phillips - GearWrench vs. Snap-on

[Merkava_4]

I was bored and did a little price comparison.

$9.99 + $6.25 shipping to the 93612 zip.
http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_...drivers&psid=FROOGLE01&sid=IDx20070921x00003a

$20.95 with free shipping.
http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item.asp?item_ID=82285&group_ID=12499

That's a difference of about $4.70

 

[baucom]

Or you can just walk in your local Advance Auto and buy that same Gearwrench driver for just $7.19 + tax. That's a difference of about $13.76

 

[Mickey O]

Or you can just walk in your local Advance Auto and buy that same Gearwrench driver for just $7.19 + tax. That's a difference of about $13.76

Sure you can, but if you like USA to appear somewhere on the tool you'd have to go with the Snap On.

 

[Fedwrench]

Sure you can, but if you like USA to appear somewhere on the tool you'd have to go with the Snap On.

Or go to Sears. $10.99 for one of their made in the USA Pro Screwdrivers
http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_...ame=Tools&cName=Hand+Tools&sName=Screwdrivers

What's the point of this thread? What pot are we trying to stir up?

 

[Zrexxer]

What's the point of this thread? What pot are we trying to stir up?

Same pot he's always stirring, seems like... it's just never done.

 

[Junkman]

Or go to Sears. $10.99 for one of their made in the USA Pro Screwdrivers
http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_...ame=Tools&cName=Hand+Tools&sName=Screwdrivers



What's the point of this thread? What pot are we trying to stir up?

Same pot he's always stirring, seems like... it's just never done.

He isn't stirring a pot, he is posting his thoughts!!!!!!!!

 

[sk farmer]

He isn't stirring a pot, he is posting his thoughts!!!!!!!!

what's the diferance?

 

[Mickey O]

Or go to Sears. $10.99 for one of their made in the USA Pro Screwdrivers
http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_...ame=Tools&cName=Hand+Tools&sName=Screwdrivers

What's the point of this thread? What pot are we trying to stir up?

True, but he's comparing GearWrench to Snap-on, you can probably find a similar screwdriver at Harbor Freight for $1.

 

[CamarosRus]

True, but he's comparing GearWrench to Snap-on, you can probably find a similar screwdriver at Harbor Freight for $1.

Mickey, Why would you suggest that GEARWRENCH quality screwdrivers are available at Harbor Freight.

Evidently you are a USA or nothing buyer (your choice) and your painting all off shore products with the same prejudicial paint brush!!! WRONG!!!!!!!!!!

 

[back2class]

I am sorry, I will not pay a premium price or even close to it for Chinese tools. They may be decent, but with world leading quality american and german made options at the same price or a little more if you fancy Snappy. How can one even consider a $10 chinese screwdriver.

 

[baucom]

To each his own concerning COO. I just posted a more fair price comparison. Though merk's price was an honest price, to suggest that Snap-On screwdrivers are just $4 more than Gearwrench is a bit misleading. There are only 2 official channels to buy Snap-On: your friendly local dealer or snapon.com. Gearwrench is readily available without paying shipping, making the price difference much larger. None of this is to suggest that Gearwrench is or isn't worth the asking price. Most of my screwdrivers are Pratt Read or Blackhawk and made in the U.S. or Europe, FWIW.

 

[caper]

I can't buy gearwrench screwdrivers anywhere locally so Merks comparison is reality for me.Some people have access to a store that sells them and some don't.Other than gearwrench wrenches I've never seen another gearwrench product in any store I've ever been in.

 

[Hiball]

To each his own concerning COO. I just posted a more fair price comparison. Though merk's price was an honest price, to suggest that Snap-On screwdrivers are just $4 more than Gearwrench is a bit misleading. There are only 2 official channels to buy Snap-On: your friendly local dealer or snapon.com. Gearwrench is readily available without paying shipping, making the price difference much larger. None of this is to suggest that Gearwrench is or isn't worth the asking price. Most of my screwdrivers are Pratt Read or Blackhawk and made in the U.S. or Europe, FWIW.

Snapon.com offers free shipping, so it was a straight forward comparison. I have ordered many items online do to lack of Local reps and have been nothing but pleased with there service, As i am there tools.

 

[Merkava_4]

What's the point of this thread? What pot are we trying to stir up?

He isn't stirring a pot, he is posting his thoughts!!!!!!!!

LOL!!

 

[Mickey O]

Mickey, Why would you suggest that GEARWRENCH quality screwdrivers are available at Harbor Freight.

Evidently you are a USA or nothing buyer (your choice) and your painting all off shore products with the same prejudicial paint brush!!! WRONG!!!!!!!!!!

Do you think Gearwrench are on par with Snap On? I think it's a fair comparison between Gearwrench and the quality offshore products available at Harbor Freight.

And no I'm not a USA or nothing buyer, I bought a 2' Chinese adjustable wrench 15 - 20 years ago, I also have some of those cheap offshore socket holders. But I certainly go out of my way to purchase US made products.

I don't know what business you're in but how do you think you'd be doing if everyone decided to hire illegal aliens or purchase products like yours overseas to save a few bucks.

Lets say you worked for your fathers business installing windows and he fired you to hire some nice cheap illegal aliens, no bad feelings right, more money in his pocket, you can go on welfare.

Here's what I think will happen if the current trends continue, there will hardly be anything left in the way manufacturing in this country, tons of people will be out of work (but that's okay the "rich" people can support them) and we'll be reliant on other countries for most everything. At that point once they have all the markets cornered they will lower their prices and improve the quality, gas prices will plummet to .60 a gallon, they'll stop selling weapons to hostile countries (used to kill our service people), they'll start treating their own people really well and will reduce their pollution levels to almost nothing. Then we can break out the lolly-pops and search out some rainbows.

 

[Kurt4440]

I am sorry, I will not pay a premium price or even close to it for Chinese tools. They may be decent, but with world leading quality american and german made options at the same price or a little more if you fancy Snappy. How can one even consider a $10 chinese screwdriver.

The imported tools do not have very good resale value compared to tools made in the U.S.A. I usually purchase used tools that I know I can sell for the same price or even more, should such a day occur.

 

[nissan_crawler]

Mickey, Why would you suggest that GEARWRENCH quality screwdrivers are available at Harbor Freight.

Evidently you are a USA or nothing buyer (your choice) and your painting all off shore products with the same prejudicial paint brush!!! WRONG!!!!!!!!!!

He puts down everything that isn't in the u.s., check his posts.

Do you think Gearwrench are on par with Snap On? I think it's a fair comparison between Gearwrench and the quality offshore products available at Harbor Freight.

No, but I sure as hell don't think harbor freight quality is anywhere CLOSE to gear wrench. Gearwrench quality is way closer to snap-on quality, than it is to harbor freight.

Answer this, have you ever used, or even held a gear wrench and harbor freight screwdriver?

 

[Merkava_4]

He puts down everything that isn't in the U.S., check his posts.

Fixed it for you.

 

[Mike83]

I was bored and did a little price comparison.

$9.99 + $6.25 shipping to the 93612 zip.
http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_...drivers&psid=FROOGLE01&sid=IDx20070921x00003a

$20.95 with free shipping.
http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item.asp?item_ID=82285&group_ID=12499

That's a difference of about $4.70

Merk I imagine you had to take a shower after visiting the Sears website. Probably made you feel quite dirty and shameful.

 

[Mickey O]

He puts down everything that isn't in the u.s., check his posts.

Not true, I prefer USA made, but I don't mind European tools (I have a few), I own a Japanese motorcycle it has a bad front stock tire (wobbles above 30 mph), the tire was made in China (many people with same bike had same problem). I do recall being injured when a quality Chinese tool broke. But aside from the unreliability of Chinese tools and the lack of quality control, overlooking the poisoning of our children and pets, the cost of petrol, ripping off American patents, bootlegging American music and movies, not treating their own people right, China and the people that support China by buying their second rate products are doing this country and her people great harm.

I'll try another analogy:

Let's say your daughter is a Girl Scout (pretend if it's not the case) and she sells cookies and the profits go to benefit the American cookie makers (who provides jobs for Americans) and to benefit the Girl Scouts, one of them being a family member but also local friends and residents. Now a girl from the town over who is here on a temporary visa is selling "American Girl" cookies, they're made and packaged in China and all the proceeds go back to China so they can buy more fuel (driving prices up around the world) and develop more sophisticated weapons to sell to our enemies and kill our service people.

Now these "American Girl" cookies look the same, even the box looks the same, they taste similar but they are $2.00 a box cheaper and you really like cookies and could end up saving as much as $100 dollars. Independent tests show they are just as good Girl Scout cookies and even have more nutritional value if they don't kill you or a loved one. What cookies are you going to buy? And why?

As far as I'm concerned you can buy whatever tools you want but that doesn't mean I have have to like them or agree that they are on par with Snap On or even close. Even if they were equivalent I'd buy the US made tools. I'm just sharing my opinion you don't have to agree but maybe a few will open their eyes before all you can buy is Chinese tools. It's not just about the quality and the price.

 

[garfunkle24]

Here's what I think will happen if the current trends continue, there will hardly be anything left in the way manufacturing in this country, tons of people will be out of work

It's not a matter of "if". Globalization is happening and will continue to happen. Just plain logic dictates that.

I know it frightens you, but you will no longer have a birth-right to greater wealth and freedoms just because you're of West Eurpoean or American descent. Get used to it.

 

[Chief]

This thread is a joke. There's nothing new here.

How many times we been down this road?

Anyone want to debate the craftsman warranty?

 

[Mickey O]

It's not a matter of "if". Globalization is happening and will continue to happen. Just plain logic dictates that.

I know it frightens you, but you will no longer have a birth-right to greater wealth and freedoms just because you're of West Eurpoean or American descent. Get used to it.

Logic does not dictate it all, logic would dictate just the opposite. Just the cost of delivery in itself and the repercussions, using logic, would dictate that countries would manufacture what they need in-house.

It doesn't frighten me, I buy US made and will continue to, I'm worried about future generations.

It is not possible for China to manufacture a comparable product, treat it's workers fairly and ship it half way across the world and sell it for less, not to mention all the other reasons not to buy Chinese made products. The Chinese are cheaters and I don't like cheaters.

Your "birth-right" **** doesn't fly either, people here, for the most part, obtain wealth, because they live in a free Capitalist society and work hard.

 

[Mickey O]

This thread is a joke. There's nothing new here.

How many times we been down this road?

Anyone want to debate the craftsman warranty?

Do you need door panels in blue for your '68 Camaro? I have a pair.

 

[Mickey O]

Answer this, have you ever used, or even held a gear wrench and harbor freight screwdriver?

No, and I have never sat in a Yugo, but I can can tell you they are junk.

 

[walrus]

I know it frightens you, but you will no longer have a birth-right to greater wealth and freedoms just because you're of West Eurpoean or American descent. Get used to it.

You can't resist, can ya

 

[Merkava_4]

This thread is a joke. There's nothing new here.

This thread has turned out way better than I thought it would. Everything Mickey O says is music to my ears.

 

[g9m3c]

Not to start (or continue) a flame war here; just thought I'd share my opinion. Gearwrench makes some really nice tools. Are they on par with Snap-On? No. Are they on par with Craftsman? Almost. If you want to try some out, now is your best chance. I work at Advance Auto Parts which is probably Gearwrench's largest current distributor, and a LOT of their stuff is on clearance right now in every store. I'm talking wrenches and screwdrivers for $1.95 and $2.95. 15 piece SAE and Metric wrench sets for $39.95. Assorted pliers for $4.95, etc. Basically, they weren't selling worth a **** because they're so expensive, so they're clearancing a lot of them off. Supposedly, we're going to start carrying some of their items with lower price points. Now's your chance to get the good stuff for cheap.

 

[Merkava_4]

Gearwrench makes some really nice tools. Are they on par with Snap-On? No. Are they on par with Craftsman? Almost.

I have to say they are actually better tools than Craftsman is of today. GearWrench is not being held to a mandatory price point fixation like Craftsman is by the Sears corporate; they can let their quality float upwards.

Why isn't there an Advance store on the west coast?!!? I can't leisurely stroll into a store and buy GearWrench screwdrivers like you east coast dudes can; they're only available online and pretty limited at that. I've only found Sears and Advance for online distributors of individual GearWrench screwdrivers.

 

[Chief]

This thread has turned out way better than I thought it would. Everything Mickey O says is music to my ears.

This I cannot argue with. Your dead on.

 

[garfunkle24]

You can't resist, can ya

Nope, I find it hard to leave ignorance undisturbed.

Your "birth-right" **** doesn't fly either, people here, for the most part, obtain wealth, because they live in a free Capitalist society

That's the birth-right part! We didn't earn that. Maybe our ancestors did (not really, but they were lucky enough to be born on the right continent at least) but we didn't.

 

[Mickey O]

Nope, I find it hard to leave ignorance undisturbed.





That's the birth-right part! We didn't earn that. Maybe our ancestors did (not really, but they were lucky enough to be born on the right continent at least) but we didn't.

My folks weren't born on this continent, nor my ancestors.

 

[thedrivel]

Not to start (or continue) a flame war here; just thought I'd share my opinion. Gearwrench makes some really nice tools. Are they on par with Snap-On? No. Are they on par with Craftsman? Almost. If you want to try some out, now is your best chance. I work at Advance Auto Parts which is probably Gearwrench's largest current distributor, and a LOT of their stuff is on clearance right now in every store. I'm talking wrenches and screwdrivers for $1.95 and $2.95. 15 piece SAE and Metric wrench sets for $39.95. Assorted pliers for $4.95, etc. Basically, they weren't selling worth a **** because they're so expensive, so they're clearancing a lot of them off. Supposedly, we're going to start carrying some of their items with lower price points. Now's your chance to get the good stuff for cheap.

Hmm, prices don't look on sale online in my area. I checked your area too and the prices are the same. I will stop by their store near me and see if it's an in store thing only. I need a few wrenches to fill gaps in my set.

 

[garfunkle24]

My folks weren't born on this continent, nor my ancestors.

And your point is....?

 

[Mickey O]

And your point is....?

Apparently you're the one who is ignorant, assuming everyone in the US was born here, talk about painting with a broad brush. Tell us about those people, the ones without the birthrite many of them prefer to buy products from their new country.

I'm not even sure why I'm debating with someone that doesn't live in this country. You want second rate merchandise from a terrorist nation in your country have at it. But if you're trying to sell me your morally superior liberal **** don't waste your breath, I'm not buying.

Be careful, anytime we like we can go up there and take Canada and there's not a thing you can do about it.

 

[garfunkle24]

Apparently you're the one who is ignorant, assuming everyone in the US was born here, talk about painting with a broad brush. Tell us about those people, the ones without the birthrite many of them prefer to buy products from their new country.

I didn't assume anything

I'm not even sure why I'm debating with someone that doesn't live in this country.

How is that relevant?

You want second rate merchandise from a terrorist nation in your country have at it.

China is a terrorist nation? And no, I want the best product/$ available, whatever the COO.

Be careful, anytime we like we can go up there and take Canada and there's not a thing you can do about it.

Only if China doesn't call in the loans. Nice mature statement BTW.

 

[Mickey O]

I didn't assume anything

Sure you did, your broad statement is quite clear.

How is that relevant?

Are you concerned about what your neighbors down the block feed their children? Because that should be a bigger concern to you that what's going on in the US. As I have already said, I could give a **** if Canadians what to buy a pile of Chinese junk. I could care less about what you think about the US.

China is a terrorist nation? And no, I want the best product/$ available, whatever the COO.

What do you call a nation that sells weapons and nuclear technologies to terrorist countries?

If you want the best products available then you want avoid China, especially when the best maker of tools in the world is right below you. And you guys make a great tool box up there, but I'd buy Chinese if I lived in Canada, just to put some Canadians out of work and save a few dollars.

Only if China doesn't call in the loans. Nice mature statement BTW.

Just stating a fact and China can call in the loans anytime, wouldn't make a difference.

 

[walrus]

Sure you did, your broad statement is quite clear.

.

What that he hates the freedom US citizens have? No doubt about that

 

[g9m3c]

Hmm, prices don't look on sale online in my area. I checked your area too and the prices are the same. I will stop by their store near me and see if it's an in store thing only. I need a few wrenches to fill gaps in my set.

Yep, it's limited to store stock only.

 

[greenreese]

I make my own cookies.