If you buy from harbor freight tools and have your receipts....
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nmantas
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I know you were just joking......but it has already been done:Watch there be a class action lawsuit against Sears as well because the Craftsman brand was shipped overseas, LOL
https://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/sears_craftsman.html
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=229587
braidmeister
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World of whores. We each need to take responsibility for our part...or it will just get worse.
vettex2
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All are whores
all that's left is haggling over the price
all that's left is haggling over the price
flylow7f39
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That is what the lawsuit is about.
http://www.nationalsalepricesettlement.com/faq
"1. What is this lawsuit about?
The lawsuit alleges that Harbor Freight violated the law by advertising merchandise at a “sale” or “comp at” price when the same items had not been sold at the advertised regular or “comp. at” price for at least 28 of the preceding 90 days. Harbor Freight disputes Plaintiffs’ allegations, and believes that it complied with all applicable laws at all times. The Court did not decide in favor of Plaintiffs or Harbor Freight, and the Court has made no decision that Harbor Freight did anything wrong. Instead, both sides agreed to a settlement."
In this case it seems that HF will be paying the lawyers separately.
http://www.nationalsalepricesettlement.com/faq
"26. How much in attorney’s fees will be paid to Class Counsel?
Class Counsel will ask the Court to approve payment of attorney’s fees and reimbursement of their expenses of up to $10,000,000. Attorney’s fees and expenses will be paid by Harbor Freight and will not reduce payments to Class members. Class Counsel will also ask for incentive compensation of up to $10,000 for the Class Representative, to be paid by Harbor Freight. The Court may award less than these amounts. The Court will determine how much to award in attorney’s fees and costs to Class Counsel and in incentive compensation to the Class Representatives at the Final Settlement Approval Hearing on July 7, 2017."
Seems that if enough people don't submit the info the more that I might get back. Kindly consider not sending in your claim so I might get a few cents more back.
"9. How much will my payment be?
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If, after payments for all valid claims have been calculated, the total amount paid to Class members, plus administrative fees (up to a maximum of $3 million), plus attorney’s fees, is less than $23 million, Class members with valid claims may be eligible for additional compensation on a pro rata basis. The amount of the additional compensation will depend on what kind of documentation you provided with your Claim Form, whether you opted for a cash payment or a gift card, and the number of people who submit valid claims."
vettex2
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to file a claim
link to claim info
https://secure.gcginc.com/nsp/PocForm.aspx?_ga=1.68445969.100876497.1489680389
get your free money or a 10 dollar gift card
link to claim info
https://secure.gcginc.com/nsp/PocForm.aspx?_ga=1.68445969.100876497.1489680389
get your free money or a 10 dollar gift card
DanielC99
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I don't really take HF ads all that seriously. Like anything else I look for the bottom line straight away. Besides, the pricing crossed out and "Wow!" bubbles are all part of HF's circus-like flavoring. It's just fodder anyway to thumb through on the crapper.
If you don't hear your inner voice say, "Yeah, OK" when you read the 'compare at' prices or when they compare to Snap On etc, then there is something wrong with your brain.
If you are genuinely deceived by HF's ads, then you're just a *****. Is taking the blood money admission of being deceived?
Wait, you mean the "compare at" prices weren't real? I guess the next thing you are going to tell me is that Santa Claus is not real???
vettex2
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He's not?
wildbill23c
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LOL their ads have that false original price all the time, or some fake compare at price. Have to be careful, sometimes their "sales" aren't sales...and many places do this same thing.
The pennies you could get back from this nonsense is far from worth it. Who the heck has all their receipts from HF in PDF format? Who the heck wants to waste time doing that in the first place. The couple cents you'll get back from this isn't worth the time. These class action law suits do nothing for the consumer the lawyers get the biggest share of that money leaving the consumer screwed once again.
The pennies you could get back from this nonsense is far from worth it. Who the heck has all their receipts from HF in PDF format? Who the heck wants to waste time doing that in the first place. The couple cents you'll get back from this isn't worth the time. These class action law suits do nothing for the consumer the lawyers get the biggest share of that money leaving the consumer screwed once again.
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vettex2
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you can just use your CC bills or take 10 bucks
I did my form in under a minute and pulled my CC stuff in about 5.
Add 1 stamp and 1 envelope
I'll get around 75.00 back
I did my form in under a minute and pulled my CC stuff in about 5.
Add 1 stamp and 1 envelope
I'll get around 75.00 back
superskaterxes
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i did the same thing, took me a few more minutes but ill be getting back $562 in gift cards.
same here, but you don't need to mail anything in. upload the pdf files direct on the link. If you got the claimant # from the lawyers email directly like I did (believe anyone who is in their computer system with email and phone # should be contacted directly by the lawyers).
hardly worth it? I'll take my >$200 gift card for a half hour of my time thank you...I see a new side locker for my 44" toolbox in the future...
hardly worth it? I'll take my >$200 gift card for a half hour of my time thank you...I see a new side locker for my 44" toolbox in the future...
ScottsGT
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Just went through a bunch of receipts and cc history. Looks like I'm getting back around $200 so I can go back in the store and spend it again! Might be time for that big yellow floor jack.
flylow7f39
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I'm in HF's system and did not get the email about it. Claim site will give you the needed claim numbers if you didn't get an email.
Mk3Mike
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Question, did you guys subtract your free items?
I originally totaled it up by the number next to "You Saved" but as I was going to submit, I noticed a line that it did not include free items so I subtracted my free items from the balance. I am submitting by mail so I added a note explaining the numbers that I came up with.
I originally totaled it up by the number next to "You Saved" but as I was going to submit, I noticed a line that it did not include free items so I subtracted my free items from the balance. I am submitting by mail so I added a note explaining the numbers that I came up with.
my free items as well as the coupons I used were already subtracted from the total I paid. I just submitted the debit card bank statements so they only see the net I paid...not sure what they are basing it off of, full price or selling price (assume the latter)...
ScottsGT
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I submitted my info weeks ago. But it looks like an ongoing suit, not a settlement. I hope the lawyers win, because if they don't, anyone that submitted info might be liable for legal fees.
OTOH, I just got a check for the Osram/Sylvania class action for $9 and change.
On that one Sylvania was claiming brighter headlights while in actuality it was just a different color temp bulb. What pissed me off was their life span. Lucky to get 6 months use out of a set.
OTOH, I just got a check for the Osram/Sylvania class action for $9 and change.
On that one Sylvania was claiming brighter headlights while in actuality it was just a different color temp bulb. What pissed me off was their life span. Lucky to get 6 months use out of a set.
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actually I thought it WAS a settlement, not an ongoing suit. did something change?
"On December 15, 2016, the Court granted preliminary approval of the settlement"
did the court not give final approval? I didn't see an update on the original site.
"On December 15, 2016, the Court granted preliminary approval of the settlement"
did the court not give final approval? I didn't see an update on the original site.
ScottsGT
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It might have. It was just my interpretation of legaleze speak. 
trekgod3
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There was supposed to be a court hearing last Friday but I can't find any info on it.
mizzourob
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Here is a YouTube video seemingly explaining the lawsuit:
PugetDude
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Sigh.....yet another meeting of the FatWallet mutual ************ society. 
Farmall450
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Of course I purchased my box like a month prior to this
joseywales
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For those saying this isn't fair to HF. Keep in mind most folks read at an 8th grade level, so it's not hard to deceive them.
I'll also say I have recently been buying at HF. I drove there yesterday to pick up caster wheel they said they had in the store. There were banners on the outside of the store: EVERYTHING MUST GO!! Place was fairly cleaned out and I thought, great, I missed a great sale. Turns out they aren't closing, just remodeling. However, everything didn't have to go, because many items aren't on sale and are being stored on the walls and in the back.
They made a mistake and did not have the wheels. They were very cordial about it and ended up giving me a free pack of zip ties I was going to purchase. Probably would have given me something of more value, if I'd had it in my hand. $10 maybe?
I visited another HF today, to get the caster wheels. Same thing: EVERYTHING MUST GO!! I got a little juiced, figuring I might be able to get a deal on a racing jack. However, they aren't even remodeling. The employee said they just hang that sign because they get merchandise in every day and need to make room to rotate inventory. Seriously????
Since when has EVERYTHING MUST GO!!! not meant that store was going out of business, or being taken back to the rafters? A tad misleading I'd say.
I'll also say I have recently been buying at HF. I drove there yesterday to pick up caster wheel they said they had in the store. There were banners on the outside of the store: EVERYTHING MUST GO!! Place was fairly cleaned out and I thought, great, I missed a great sale. Turns out they aren't closing, just remodeling. However, everything didn't have to go, because many items aren't on sale and are being stored on the walls and in the back.
They made a mistake and did not have the wheels. They were very cordial about it and ended up giving me a free pack of zip ties I was going to purchase. Probably would have given me something of more value, if I'd had it in my hand. $10 maybe?
I visited another HF today, to get the caster wheels. Same thing: EVERYTHING MUST GO!! I got a little juiced, figuring I might be able to get a deal on a racing jack. However, they aren't even remodeling. The employee said they just hang that sign because they get merchandise in every day and need to make room to rotate inventory. Seriously????
Since when has EVERYTHING MUST GO!!! not meant that store was going out of business, or being taken back to the rafters? A tad misleading I'd say.
ScottsGT
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Well, I've never seen a business trying to keep inventory. I think the idea is to move everything and bring more in. 
RivennHewn
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I my mind, the fact that you walked out the door with a purchase means that you were happy enough with the price. You made the decision to go ahead with the purchase knowing how much you were going to pay.
Personal responsibility is a thing of the past that should make a come back.
Personal responsibility is a thing of the past that should make a come back.
joseywales
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Oh. I have no problem with the casters I bought and wasn't even that upset that I wasted $7 shipping the original set that I'll just return. In fact, I bought a 1.5 ton racing jack at HF today as well. None of that is relevant to my point.
My point is, I read above the 8th grade level, but there are many who do not and it's not always their fault. I'm simply saying they shouldn't be taken advantage of. It's the same reason the credit card companies got slapped years ago. Be accountable, absolutely. Not looking to protect the intentionally ignorant. But there are adults who do not comprehend on an adult level.
My point is, I read above the 8th grade level, but there are many who do not and it's not always their fault. I'm simply saying they shouldn't be taken advantage of. It's the same reason the credit card companies got slapped years ago. Be accountable, absolutely. Not looking to protect the intentionally ignorant. But there are adults who do not comprehend on an adult level.
Well in a way EVERYTHING MUST GO!!! is true. They need to sell everything to stay in business. No business says, "no we are saving this".
EVERYTHING MUST GO!!! sales are almost weekly
Wangstang
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Does any one know if scans of your credit card with other charges/non-essential info redacted but the harbor freight charges still present are enough for submission?
I'd prefer not to turn over my info beyond the scope of my purchases with harbor freight but I don't want my claim to be denied for not providing what's required.
I tried calling the number but it goes to an automated message system that you can't access a live person through as near as I can tell.
I'd prefer not to turn over my info beyond the scope of my purchases with harbor freight but I don't want my claim to be denied for not providing what's required.
I tried calling the number but it goes to an automated message system that you can't access a live person through as near as I can tell.
kythri
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Well, I can only remember print/television ads as far back as say, 1981?
So, at least since then?
This is far from an uncommon practice. Electronics and furniture stores have been doing this kind of stuff for, well, at least 35+ years.
MyHybridBurnsGasandTires
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Well in a way EVERYTHING MUST GO!!! is true. They need to sell everything to stay in business. No business says, "no we are saving this".
EVERYTHING MUST GO!!! sales are almost weekly
Ferrino
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Did you end up editing your CC statements?
Lol, some of us have been thinking that we've been scoring good deals from HF.
Just take a print out of your year-end summaries, blank out any non-HF transactions, sort transactions by the respective shopping category, and you should be all good
Just take a print out of your year-end summaries, blank out any non-HF transactions, sort transactions by the respective shopping category, and you should be all good
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Wanna Ride
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I read through the settlement. Looks like the attorneys could get about ten million for their part. Not too shabby for some unknown little firm, in No-where-ville, Ohio.
So... who's really winning here? I can't see lots of time and money spent on a building a case where everyone listed has to do all the legwork of finding, categorizing and submitting the receipts.
Some have asked the question, so here's my understanding of the answer.
Any money remaining in the settlement ($30,000,000/thirty million) after all claims are paid, will be redistributed to those who were able to produce the receipts that stated, "you saved $***". So some guys MAY be receiving a second round of payments. MAYBE... if there's some left over.
It appears this has already been settled, and the money will be divvied out. If you don't submit your info, that money will just go to someone else, who already has. Apparently, you could get as much as $20 bucks back (or less), on every $100 spent.
Regarding the discussion of the average adult reading at an eighth grade level... that's pretty accurate. Unfortunately, I know many people like this. And I frequently ask myself, "How the hell do they make it through life?". Well, barely. That's how. There's probably someone, reading this right now, and has no real comprehension of what I'm typing. Just a week ago, I had a neighborhood kid helping with some yard work. We were talking, and I had the feeling that he seemed unsure what the word "comprehension" meant. So I came right and asked him... and he finally confessed that he didn't know what it meant. This kid has been through twelve years of schooling (K-11), and does not know what "comprehend" means. How the hell does that happen? And this kid will be a senior in high school, later this month. WTF?
I know, I know. All of us here, know that those "compare to" prices aren't real, but I can easily see where some would be totally confused by that. Would they think they fell into the deal of the century, if they saw a banner that says "Everything must go!"? Hell, I'd like to think that no one is that slow, but it's surely possible. Have you overheard any of the conversations in Harbor Freight? I have, and it makes me shake my head sometimes, in disbelief. There's some pretty slow adults out there, folks. And guess what... they all have kids. And who do you think is raising them? Yep. Them same slow adults. Pretty damn scarey, actually.
Anyways, I'm not saying that this justifies a damn lawsuit, but I am saying there's some folks out there (way more than most of us are even aware), that are a lot like those free HF flashlights... not very bright.
So... who's really winning here? I can't see lots of time and money spent on a building a case where everyone listed has to do all the legwork of finding, categorizing and submitting the receipts.
Some have asked the question, so here's my understanding of the answer.
Any money remaining in the settlement ($30,000,000/thirty million) after all claims are paid, will be redistributed to those who were able to produce the receipts that stated, "you saved $***". So some guys MAY be receiving a second round of payments. MAYBE... if there's some left over.
It appears this has already been settled, and the money will be divvied out. If you don't submit your info, that money will just go to someone else, who already has. Apparently, you could get as much as $20 bucks back (or less), on every $100 spent.
Regarding the discussion of the average adult reading at an eighth grade level... that's pretty accurate. Unfortunately, I know many people like this. And I frequently ask myself, "How the hell do they make it through life?". Well, barely. That's how. There's probably someone, reading this right now, and has no real comprehension of what I'm typing. Just a week ago, I had a neighborhood kid helping with some yard work. We were talking, and I had the feeling that he seemed unsure what the word "comprehension" meant. So I came right and asked him... and he finally confessed that he didn't know what it meant. This kid has been through twelve years of schooling (K-11), and does not know what "comprehend" means. How the hell does that happen? And this kid will be a senior in high school, later this month. WTF?
I know, I know. All of us here, know that those "compare to" prices aren't real, but I can easily see where some would be totally confused by that. Would they think they fell into the deal of the century, if they saw a banner that says "Everything must go!"? Hell, I'd like to think that no one is that slow, but it's surely possible. Have you overheard any of the conversations in Harbor Freight? I have, and it makes me shake my head sometimes, in disbelief. There's some pretty slow adults out there, folks. And guess what... they all have kids. And who do you think is raising them? Yep. Them same slow adults. Pretty damn scarey, actually.
Anyways, I'm not saying that this justifies a damn lawsuit, but I am saying there's some folks out there (way more than most of us are even aware), that are a lot like those free HF flashlights... not very bright.
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Haha, every flashlight I dropped, had to be either be tossed away or taken back to the store in person to get it replaced again. But wait...there's the fee for toll crossings and gasoline,
Will we get reimbursed for that as well? Who knows. This settlement has had its cluster of comical discussion. Read through other forums as well, and it gets overwhelming for some because they have to scurry for misplaced receipts. If I'm not mistaken, but for certain purchases, especially in the Home Improvement category, its generally wise to report such transactions when filing annual tax returns; supposedly get a greater refund.
Will we get reimbursed for that as well? Who knows. This settlement has had its cluster of comical discussion. Read through other forums as well, and it gets overwhelming for some because they have to scurry for misplaced receipts. If I'm not mistaken, but for certain purchases, especially in the Home Improvement category, its generally wise to report such transactions when filing annual tax returns; supposedly get a greater refund.
driftpin
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"Procrastination is the thief of time"
The deadline is today for submitting your claim, either online, or postmarked today.
I just uploaded my receipts online, and requested the 30% of "You saved..." shown for receipts during the timeframe allowed. When I checked my receipts by date, I saw that a few were later than the Dec. 15, 2016 deadline. That's OK, I still will be receiving over $220 which will just go to buying...more-HFT tools! I wish they had an aluminum-capable welder, I haven't seen one listed. Maybe I'll kick-in some $ and buy the plasma cutter, it looks decent.
I save my receipts, I probably don't need to, but I had a bunch of HFT receipts to scan. I don't currently have a scanner I had a H-P combo printer, but it met with a 'shoe-nuff' problem (below).
I got fed-up with my Hewlett Packard printer x 3 when it started giving me a 'won't go-away' pop-up-window that I could never eliminate after spending hours trying to download a new updated driver, trying multiple things suggested online in various places, and damned if I was going to take it to a shop where they charge me $100 to tell me, "buy another one." So I introduced it to my size 11 in the driveway for wasting my time, and not continuing to work in a home capacity after a couple of years of infrequent use. I wasn't sure I exorcised the demon electrons, so I gave it another couple stomps before I swept it up with my wide aluminum dustpan and deposited it into the garbage. That 'shoe-nuff' got rid of the uncooperative piece of planned-obsolescence gadgetry. I've been reading the ads for Staples, Office Max, target, and the membership clubs, they all seem to have almost identical prices. Office Max is having a 30% off sale for teachers coming up in about a week, so I'm counting on a healthy discount then, as I'm eligible. I've been reading about the Canons, they have good features and are not as-expensive as others for ink. I'm gonna get something, but in the meantime, I had our son scan all my receipts through his scanner, and I made an excel spreadsheet cross-referencing the receipts by date and amount. So, all should be good, I got my confirmation of claim form submittal, enumerating all my jpeg electronic receipts.
It's time to sit back and wait. Between my radial arm saw rebate from Emerson Electric, and this, well, I'm in high cotton! Nothin' bettern' makin' tools pay for themselves!
The deadline is today for submitting your claim, either online, or postmarked today.
I just uploaded my receipts online, and requested the 30% of "You saved..." shown for receipts during the timeframe allowed. When I checked my receipts by date, I saw that a few were later than the Dec. 15, 2016 deadline. That's OK, I still will be receiving over $220 which will just go to buying...more-HFT tools! I wish they had an aluminum-capable welder, I haven't seen one listed. Maybe I'll kick-in some $ and buy the plasma cutter, it looks decent.
I save my receipts, I probably don't need to, but I had a bunch of HFT receipts to scan. I don't currently have a scanner I had a H-P combo printer, but it met with a 'shoe-nuff' problem (below).
I got fed-up with my Hewlett Packard printer x 3 when it started giving me a 'won't go-away' pop-up-window that I could never eliminate after spending hours trying to download a new updated driver, trying multiple things suggested online in various places, and damned if I was going to take it to a shop where they charge me $100 to tell me, "buy another one." So I introduced it to my size 11 in the driveway for wasting my time, and not continuing to work in a home capacity after a couple of years of infrequent use. I wasn't sure I exorcised the demon electrons, so I gave it another couple stomps before I swept it up with my wide aluminum dustpan and deposited it into the garbage. That 'shoe-nuff' got rid of the uncooperative piece of planned-obsolescence gadgetry. I've been reading the ads for Staples, Office Max, target, and the membership clubs, they all seem to have almost identical prices. Office Max is having a 30% off sale for teachers coming up in about a week, so I'm counting on a healthy discount then, as I'm eligible. I've been reading about the Canons, they have good features and are not as-expensive as others for ink. I'm gonna get something, but in the meantime, I had our son scan all my receipts through his scanner, and I made an excel spreadsheet cross-referencing the receipts by date and amount. So, all should be good, I got my confirmation of claim form submittal, enumerating all my jpeg electronic receipts.
It's time to sit back and wait. Between my radial arm saw rebate from Emerson Electric, and this, well, I'm in high cotton! Nothin' bettern' makin' tools pay for themselves!