TEKTON 15 piece wrench sets......$13 for both sets?
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Ive been watching the tracking for the last few days. It started in IL and ended up in Chicago which makes sense. It left Chicago and i figured the next stop would be the local hub here but it is now in CT? Its going the wrong way 
Either something is messed up or the USPS is not very efficient.....which is a dumb comment if you have ever been to one and stood in line waiting to mail a package
It was shipped priority mail...which is usually 3 days. Seems it is going to be much much longer.
The wait continues.
Either something is messed up or the USPS is not very efficient.....which is a dumb comment if you have ever been to one and stood in line waiting to mail a package
It was shipped priority mail...which is usually 3 days. Seems it is going to be much much longer.
The wait continues.
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FlushingDIYer
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I've purchased a few things from eBay that were "deals." And usually, I have to end up calling Paypal and eBay to get it squared away. (There is no one to email about those discrepancies...) Has really made me sour on using eBay lately. I really think there are international crime rings using eBay to smuggle money across international lines. Why else would an international seller overcharge for an item, sometimes by 10000% what it's worth?) I hope the wrenches do show up and they honor the price. It would show that Amazon is a hell of a lot safer and legit than eBay. If not, give Amazon hell. I'm sure they're make it right somehow. You better not get a picture of wrenches...
Yes sounds like a good deal. I recently ordered a motor control board off eBay for my washer. The seller indicated it was new. The repair man told me that was the problem. It didn't work. Who do I believe repairman or the seller of item. Most of times eBay sales work out.
Well now the tracking number says it is "out for delivery" in Brandford CT. That is about 1000 miles away from where i am. The ship to address is my address. No clue how it got to this location. IT was in chicago last night which is only a few hundred miles away.
Looks like im screwed. Either the postoffice cant read a proper address or ???
Someone in CT got a nice set of tools.
what a **** show.
Looks like im screwed. Either the postoffice cant read a proper address or ???
Someone in CT got a nice set of tools.
what a **** show.
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Or they found a random USPS label created around the same time as yours should have shipped and sent that to you to keep you off their back for a few more days.
I know USPS labels follow a predictable pattern, what that pattern exactly is, I'm not sure. If you figure it out, you can guess labels that are going to be printed now/soon.
....and im screwed. It was delivered in CT just now. Wrong address and the note on the USPS website says it was delivered and placed in the mailbox. That must be one hell of a mailbox to accept a package of that size.....or they are delivering empty envolpes as part of the scam.
I guess ill never know.
Amazon doesn't care as it was a 3rd party seller through their site.
So im out my money and the items. Glad nobody else here got scammed.
Thus ends the nightmare. No Tekton for me. Time to find something else.
I guess ill never know.
Amazon doesn't care as it was a 3rd party seller through their site.
So im out my money and the items. Glad nobody else here got scammed.
Thus ends the nightmare. No Tekton for me. Time to find something else.
FlushingDIYer
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Did you speak with them? What did they say???
Wait what? Every time I've had to deal with an Amazon order (rarely) their customer service has been incredible with getting this issue resolved
They said i need to contact the seller which is impossible. They dont return emails....which is clear by everyone stating they dont return emails when they are contacted. I emailed screenshots of my order, the email from amazon showing the price, my tracking, address and actually delivery location times etc to their customer service team which will aid them if they have open an investigation against the seller. That doesnt help me but hey......there you have it. IM going to try and call them again to see if i get anywhere. In the end I am only out about $30.
This seller clearly orchastrated a mass scam on this date. There are tons (200+) of reviews of people that got ripped off with packages that got delivered to the wrong addresses all over the country.
https://www.amazon.com/sp?seller=A1H1ZFZUSKWE8T
This seller clearly orchastrated a mass scam on this date. There are tons (200+) of reviews of people that got ripped off with packages that got delivered to the wrong addresses all over the country.
https://www.amazon.com/sp?seller=A1H1ZFZUSKWE8T
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bmrisko
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Just file an A to Z claim...
Loscaldazar
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File a claim.
When they ask if you contacted the seller, say yes.
They then give the seller like 3 days to respond and give you a solution that you like or you get your money back. Since you never received an item and they aren't responding, you'll get your money back.
jl4c
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This may not be popular with the group, but I've never cared about being popular. And I'm not being self-righteous because I've done the same thing. But I am advocating for something called TANSTAAFL aka 'there ain't no such thing as a free lunch.'
As I see things:
1. The OP stumbled on a deal that was likely too good to be true. He knew from the beginning it was too good to be true.
2. In spite of that, the larceny in his (and every human) heart convinced him to give it a try anyway, even though the chance of it being legitimate was extremely small.
3. The honest and best thing for the OP to do is to kiss his $30 goodbye, lick his wounds, learn from his mistake and resolve never to do it again.
4. If he puts the burden of his poor judgment onto Amazon, it is something that we all eventually pay for in higher Amazon prices. Amazon isn't going to just eat the loss, they will pass it on to all their customers--US.
If we all believed in TANSTAAFL then the likelihood of anyone getting ripped off is DRASTICALLY reduced. It's the larcency in our hearts that makes us believe we can get something for nothing that entices us along this path. By REALLY believing in TANSTAAFL we might miss the odd "screaming deal" but neither will we get separated from our $$$ by a charlatan.
As I see things:
1. The OP stumbled on a deal that was likely too good to be true. He knew from the beginning it was too good to be true.
2. In spite of that, the larceny in his (and every human) heart convinced him to give it a try anyway, even though the chance of it being legitimate was extremely small.
3. The honest and best thing for the OP to do is to kiss his $30 goodbye, lick his wounds, learn from his mistake and resolve never to do it again.
4. If he puts the burden of his poor judgment onto Amazon, it is something that we all eventually pay for in higher Amazon prices. Amazon isn't going to just eat the loss, they will pass it on to all their customers--US.
If we all believed in TANSTAAFL then the likelihood of anyone getting ripped off is DRASTICALLY reduced. It's the larcency in our hearts that makes us believe we can get something for nothing that entices us along this path. By REALLY believing in TANSTAAFL we might miss the odd "screaming deal" but neither will we get separated from our $$$ by a charlatan.
bmrisko
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Some of you folks clearly have no idea how Amazon works...
Amazon has been more than helpful. IM a dumb ****. I get it. Nobody gets it more than me. I have been one for 40 years. The biggest one you have ever met.... im sure of that.......but thanks for summarizing it for the group.
I never expected to get money back or to get anything for free or anyone to pity me about it. Im not one of those people. Amazon was great, so i am grateful for that. They are investigating the seller as clearly that day they ripped off 200+ via the reviews that have been left. Getting my money back was not a problem. I figured it was gone. Sounds like they knew about it.
Shame on me for falling for it but that has already clearly been stated by myself and others. Next time i see an over priced item on Amazon, i will be reminded about how that is my fault in some small way.
I never expected to get money back or to get anything for free or anyone to pity me about it. Im not one of those people. Amazon was great, so i am grateful for that. They are investigating the seller as clearly that day they ripped off 200+ via the reviews that have been left. Getting my money back was not a problem. I figured it was gone. Sounds like they knew about it.
Shame on me for falling for it but that has already clearly been stated by myself and others. Next time i see an over priced item on Amazon, i will be reminded about how that is my fault in some small way.
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Amazon vouches for its sellers, and when they screw up Amazon catches the outcome. Nothing wrong with that: Amazon actively polices their marketplace and kicks off the bad apples. It's a major difference between Amazon and eBay.
Given the 20% commission Amazon takes on sales, they can more than afford to eat the occasional loss.
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Given the 20% commission Amazon takes on sales, they can more than afford to eat the occasional loss.
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yup.....they even gave me a $5 credit for being an idiot. I didnt even want it or demand it or anything. They were happy to resolve once they saw the details. I tried to refuse it claiming that it was probably my fault for falling for it but they gave it to me anyway. That was nice of them. They take care of their prime members. It probably drove the prices up though.
IN business, the business doesn't lose. They will aways get their money back or they wouldnt be a business. That is what business is. They are smart about it and that is one of their best strong arm / marketing tactics. People see how great they are and instantly they get more customers. I will probably donate the $5 to my amazon smile charity of choice as a ******* tax for myself. Amazon can write that off and prices should hopefully not go up. Thats probably fair. On top of that, i will probably order the wrench set out of self directed spite. That ought to show me.
IN business, the business doesn't lose. They will aways get their money back or they wouldnt be a business. That is what business is. They are smart about it and that is one of their best strong arm / marketing tactics. People see how great they are and instantly they get more customers. I will probably donate the $5 to my amazon smile charity of choice as a ******* tax for myself. Amazon can write that off and prices should hopefully not go up. Thats probably fair. On top of that, i will probably order the wrench set out of self directed spite. That ought to show me.
Wow, sorry scale. I've been keeping up with this thread and wishing for a good outcome for you, although I wasn't holding my breath...
Hopefully you learned a lesson here. There always have been and always will be scammers in this world trying to separate everyone and anyone from their money.
I agree in part with jl4c. Bottom line is, if it sounds to good to be true it usually is.
You live you learn.
Hopefully you learned a lesson here. There always have been and always will be scammers in this world trying to separate everyone and anyone from their money.
I agree in part with jl4c. Bottom line is, if it sounds to good to be true it usually is.
You live you learn.
Strouty
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Damn charlatans!
Indeed. All is good here. Lesson learned for sure. I know better......i figured....maybe just this once.....maybe things were looking to be in my favor. NOPE. Its fine though...just happy to be upright and healthy. Thats all that really matters.
Honestly, The last thing i really need is more stuff anyway
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Ign
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Not at all. Deals like this are common on Amazon, although rarely through third party sellers I'll grant you. But I've gotten lots of drill bits, aluminum, Delrin and even two Albrecht chucks for literally pennies on the dollar.
There's no larceny. It's simply the new age where auto-bots dictate prices by an algorithm. If you're in the right place at the right time you get a helluva deal.
I grew up w a single mom who scraped by, cut coupons and demanded discounts when they were within the rules. There's stealing and then there's being frugal. BIG difference
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^^^
Agreed. I got a proto slide hammer kit ($500) for a little over $100 off amazon about a year ago. It was only that price for a few minutes and I, for whatever reason, had just googled that part number for a reason I can't really remember (already had an OTC kit). Sold the OTC and kept the Proto then.
Agreed. I got a proto slide hammer kit ($500) for a little over $100 off amazon about a year ago. It was only that price for a few minutes and I, for whatever reason, had just googled that part number for a reason I can't really remember (already had an OTC kit). Sold the OTC and kept the Proto then.
General Geoff
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Yeah I stumbled on a bizarrely low price for a pair of massive 5" ball bearings, $54 for two. Immediately after ordering, the price jumped up to $200+. Sometimes Amazon's pricing algorithms screw up. I bet it cost them close to $50 just to ship the damn things!
jl4c
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When one gets a "helluva deal" to the point that you know the transaction is costing the seller money, it ceases to be OK. Let's say that your favorite box store mis-prices something for $50 that should obviously have been $500. Sure, legally you could insist they honor that price, but doing so is morally wrong. You are taking advantage of a mistake. Does anyone remember the golden rule anymore?
jl4c
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And by your own admission you took advantage of a clear mistake on Amazon's part. Legal yes, ethical no. The Golden Rule always applies my friends. How sad it is when we try to justify not living it.
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jl4c
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I guess the classic story of the widow selling her husband's "Chevrolet" for $1000 comes to mind. The prospective buyer (you), with $1000 in hand, goes to see the car and finds the "Chevy" is a mint condition, factory original 1966 Corvette.
Do you:
A. Give her the $1000 she's asking and get out of there with the car as fast as you can.
B. Tell her the car is worth a couple orders of magnitude more than she's asking.
The golden rule should never go out of fashion. If it does, we need to examine and retune our moral compasses.
Do you:
A. Give her the $1000 she's asking and get out of there with the car as fast as you can.
B. Tell her the car is worth a couple orders of magnitude more than she's asking.
The golden rule should never go out of fashion. If it does, we need to examine and retune our moral compasses.
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FlushingDIYer
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I get what you're saying. And when applied to a small mom and pop shop, for sure. I would never, ever think about "sticking" it to them. For example, I buy parts from a retailer out here in CT that guarantees all their parts for life (FCPEuro). I've sent back a few pieces that failed on me, but little things? Or things that I purchased knowing I was only going to throw them on our car for a year before they failed? I appreciate their customer service and the fact that they're a small business too much to do that to them.
I know many folks exploited Sears' guarantee over the years. And yeah, we're all going to pay for that one. But Amazon? I don't feel the same about a large, publicly-traded company involved in restructuring the American economy and who's exploited workers in their warehouses... I don't know.
jl4c
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A man asks a woman if she'll sleep with him for $1,000,000.
She says yes.
He then asks her if she'll sleep with him for $20.
Indignantly she replies, "What kind of woman do you think I am?"
The man replies, "We've already established WHAT you are, now we're just haggling about the price."
It is not ok to take advantage of Amazon because they are a big, faceless company? Do you think there are no "Mom and Pop's" who own shares of Amazon? When you take advantage of Amazon, you are taking advantage of every one of its shareholders. And when Amazon passes the higher costs of doing business on to their customers, you are taking advantage of them too. Does your 401K or retirement plan include any shares of Amazon? You might be taking advantage of yourself and not even know it.
Sorry, the Golden Rule still applies to our dealings with corporations. Living the Golden Rule is hard. It's easy to find reasons not to do it. Like the woman in the above story, one either *IS* or *ISN'T*. It's not a matter of degree.
I'm not trying to single anyone out. But I am encouraging us all to examine our character, our moral/ethical code (or whatever you want to call it), and hold ourselves to a higher standard.
She says yes.
He then asks her if she'll sleep with him for $20.
Indignantly she replies, "What kind of woman do you think I am?"
The man replies, "We've already established WHAT you are, now we're just haggling about the price."
It is not ok to take advantage of Amazon because they are a big, faceless company? Do you think there are no "Mom and Pop's" who own shares of Amazon? When you take advantage of Amazon, you are taking advantage of every one of its shareholders. And when Amazon passes the higher costs of doing business on to their customers, you are taking advantage of them too. Does your 401K or retirement plan include any shares of Amazon? You might be taking advantage of yourself and not even know it.
Sorry, the Golden Rule still applies to our dealings with corporations. Living the Golden Rule is hard. It's easy to find reasons not to do it. Like the woman in the above story, one either *IS* or *ISN'T*. It's not a matter of degree.
I'm not trying to single anyone out. But I am encouraging us all to examine our character, our moral/ethical code (or whatever you want to call it), and hold ourselves to a higher standard.
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jl4c
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The golden rule is "Do unto others as YOU WOULD HAVE THEM do unto you." It is not "Do unto others as THEY HAVE DONE unto you (or others)." It's a high standard. Not everyone can live it. But worthy of striving for.
I've said more than enough on this issue. I'll bow out now. Thanks for reading.
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pescados666
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Maybe if they treated their workers better they'd make less errors when entering in prices 
Probably wouldn't hurt if Amazon stopped letting new sellers list thousands of items at a time too.
Probably wouldn't hurt if Amazon stopped letting new sellers list thousands of items at a time too.
Maybe if they treated their workers better they'd make less errors when entering in prices
What? Sears isn't a "large publicly traded" company??? They should be treated differently in your opinion? Why exactly?
Amazon treats their workers poorly? Any data to back this up?
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pescados666
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I'm not sure if the rest of amazon is different, or who even enters their prices, but I do know there are a ton of stories about the bad conditions in the fulfillment warehouses.
https://www.google.com/search?q=amazon+warehouse+worker+conditions
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Uh huh...
"There have been dozens of stories portraying Amazon warehouses as inhumane, hellish workplaces, and while some workers may have been subject to these conditions, the ones I spoke to hadn’t. “It is certainly hard work,” said Brant Ivey, who spent six months in one of Amazon’s hubs lifting oversized objects. But “the conditions at the warehouse were on par or better than most other warehouses that I have been in.” One of the biggest complaints is that the warehouses are too hot. In 2012, after a lengthy expose revealed brutally hot summertime conditions, Amazon announced plans to spend $52 million to install air conditioning in its U.S. warehouses.
One Reddit user put it bluntly: “The work does ****, but all warehouse work *****. I have experienced FAR worse conditions and been treated terrible by other Fortune 500 companies.”
"There have been dozens of stories portraying Amazon warehouses as inhumane, hellish workplaces, and while some workers may have been subject to these conditions, the ones I spoke to hadn’t. “It is certainly hard work,” said Brant Ivey, who spent six months in one of Amazon’s hubs lifting oversized objects. But “the conditions at the warehouse were on par or better than most other warehouses that I have been in.” One of the biggest complaints is that the warehouses are too hot. In 2012, after a lengthy expose revealed brutally hot summertime conditions, Amazon announced plans to spend $52 million to install air conditioning in its U.S. warehouses.
One Reddit user put it bluntly: “The work does ****, but all warehouse work *****. I have experienced FAR worse conditions and been treated terrible by other Fortune 500 companies.”
General Geoff
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I operate a small business, and if I lose money on a sale because of a mistaken price, I take the hit. That's my problem, not the customer's.
Ign
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Your exact example just happened. HD was selling the Milwaukee 46" upper chests at $50. Retail is $300. Does clearance factor into your golden rule? They were doing this nationwide, there were pics of people buying 8 or more at once all over the country.
I just bought three $25 levels at TSC for $4.40 ea.
I regularly order stuff from Amazon where I don't know how they make any money if it's from them & shipped Prime (2 day). And speaking of third party sellers I just ordered a 3-pack of Park bike patch kits for $6, free shipping (although not Prime).
I could fill the screen with examples, how 'bout the huge Proto ratcheting wrenches Northern was selling for $15 which retailed for a couple hundred EACH?
How do you know when a price is clearance vs a mistake?
Incidentally, there are no mistakes in the Amazon auto-bot pricing, they know full-well what their algorithm is doing and they just don't care. The item will sit at that price until sales are stimulated and then the price shoots back up.
If you know a retailer is losing $ on a clearance item (very common in retail to just make it go away), do you still not buy it?
Amazon doesn't have a designation, label or moniker for clearance. You never know why something is priced the way it is.
simple...
1) the seller is not Amazon.com LLC or Warehouse deals.
2) all skus are priced at the same discount
3) seller is foreign or gibberish name
4) no recent feedback; existsing feedback is inconsistent wit sku's
I discussed this earlier, as this is a new type of scam but its petty easy to detect. The scammers take by steath or by hacking other (legit) sellers listings/and/or accounts. They mark everything down to "you ****" pricing. Then wait for people (easy marks) to let greed overtake common sense.
Like all scams, they are confidence scames.
They work because they earn a little bit of trust ("oh, look..its on amazon") and usualy one more layer of sanity checking ("ok, look...its a whole store of items not some boot sale")...etc. Third, to some extent, they also exploit the trust amazon has earned with no-questions-asked returns ("oh, look...its $19.99/per loss not enough for anyone to really get upset about").
Of course the key to this scam is to get alot of people thinking a "small risk" is OK--morally or otherwise.
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Odd, because when I make a pricing mistake, I **** it up and take it. I just recently sold some items to a member here and would have sworn it would fit into a Flat rate box. Turns out it didn't and I had to ship it via UPS for twice the cost. I didn't even bother contacting the buyer to ask them to pay more and just shipped it. I made a deal without actually verifying it, and that wasn't the buyer's fault. That was mine.
IMO, asking the buyer to pay more because I made a mistake is wrong. We made a contract to sell the items for X price (which is the same thing a price tag is in a store, the store saying this what we will take for this item).
FlushingDIYer
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On the Amazon front:
http://www.businessinsider.com/brutal-conditions-in-amazons-warehouses-2013-8
Sears is a publicly traded company. But the community aspect of their business is one that many folks (including them) took for granted. You remember that thread a while back about the Sears stories? We sure won't ever have "Amazon" stories, other than getting that great deal, getting bamboozled, or having an AMAZING chat with an overseas rep.
I know my neighborhood Sears will probably be replaced by a Harbor Freight... and life will chug along. But Sears was cool stuff. (I know, I know, I know... I'm not trying to turn this into another Sears thread!) I remember as a kid all the ads, I remember walking through the aisles with my dad or my son looking at tools. We aren't going to have that anymore. At the very least, walking into Sears as a kid taught me that tools weren't disposable. But Harbor Freight's model, it's very much like that of all the other industries that have taught us to consume and throw away and buy another...
All of that means something.
Amazon? They've always been different. But yeah, I get it. I think it all comes down to intent:
- did I know I was exploiting a fraudulent listing?
But, really, how can we as folks who visit the website really know if it's fraudulent? Especially since many of us have gotten amazing deals on websites like Amazon?
Ign
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I do that when I mis-quote a job, too. I'm not selling much material, mostly labor. But if I make a mistake I consider it my stupid tax. If it's quite large and I have a rapport w the customer I might explain the situation, all the while making it VERY clear I'll honor my original quote.