Crimping non insulating connectors

[Rt jam]

What is a good tool for this job. Generally 14 gauge.

 

[pstemari]

Greenlee/Paladin PA8000 Crimp-All with an appropriate die, probably a 2033 for open-barrel non-insulated connectors.

I think the p/n for the frame/die combo is PA8033, but I'm not certain on that.

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[pstemari]

8026, as it turns out.

Greenlee Textron 8026 Ergonomic CrimpALL 8000 Open Barrel Non-Insulated Terminal Crimper https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001NDAOOK/?tag=atomicindus08-20

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[Brownsfan]

I use the Klein 1006 pliers style for most non insulated connectors
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00776SJJO/?tag=atomicindus08-20

Or the SK (which seems to be the same as Thomas and Betts)
http://www.circlecsupply.com/sk-terminal-crimping-pliers-9.html?gclid=CNz6oP7fldMCFRWewAodtv4I1A
I liked the sk green handles better because they stood out and were easy to spot.
https://www.zoro.com/sta-kon-crimpe...gclid=CIW9wLngldMCFY61wAodIdAFrw&gclsrc=aw.ds

I have all 3. The Sk and T&B seem to be identical. I just liked the green handles because they looked different from the other guys in the shop at the time. The SK and TB have a better cutter than the Klein IMHO.

 

[mbshop]

I used a simple tool that has a similar crimping setup as the above mentioned. Used it on everything. Bought it back in the mid 70s. I'm sure there are better insulted connector tools but I just never had the need after that simple tool I got. Guess it depends on the circumstances.

 

[Wamsutta]

I like the Ideal 30-429 for non-insulated splice connectors.

For open barrel connectors, I like the Sargent 1028-CT.

 

[Jazzman442]

I use the Klein 1006 pliers style for most non insulated connectors
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00776SJJO/?tag=atomicindus08-20

Or the SK (which seems to be the same as Thomas and Betts)
http://www.circlecsupply.com/sk-terminal-crimping-pliers-9.html?gclid=CNz6oP7fldMCFRWewAodtv4I1A
I liked the sk green handles better because they stood out and were easy to spot.
https://www.zoro.com/sta-kon-crimpe...gclid=CIW9wLngldMCFY61wAodIdAFrw&gclsrc=aw.ds

I have all 3. The Sk and T&B seem to be identical. I just liked the green handles because they looked different from the other guys in the shop at the time. The SK and TB have a better cutter than the Klein IMHO.

I agree Klein is the best.. I have been using mine for over 35 years. Use to be in the car audio business. it crimps everything and the handles are long enough to crimp the larger stuff.

 

[DFB]

I have the same crimpers with the red and black grips as seen in Zoro link but mine are stamped Klein

 

[Brownsfan]

I agree Klein is the best.. I have been using mine for over 35 years. Use to be in the car audio business. it crimps everything and the handles are long enough to crimp the larger stuff.

I have never had a set a crimpers for more than probably 10 years because I would always lose them. I was also in the car audio business. Still technically am but rarely do audio. I do mostly remote starts and alarms and other electronics. And also do do electrical trouble shooting and repair for small shops and car lots.

 

[rlitman]

I agree Klein is the best.. I have been using mine for over 35 years. Use to be in the car audio business. it crimps everything and the handles are long enough to crimp the larger stuff.

I like my Klein 1005 for insulated connectors.

But the T&B WT111M is a better non-insulated crimper. The Klein pinches the crimp too much from the sides. The T&B gets better results when I section the crimps and look at the middle with a loupe. It is also a little wider.

My T&B is ANCIENT, and I ended up putting Klein Tenite grips on it. Nice thick grips are a big plus on a manual crimper.

 

[rick carpenter]

I use the Klein 1006 pliers style for most non insulated connectors
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00776SJJO/?tag=atomicindus08-20

Or the SK (which seems to be the same as Thomas and Betts)
http://www.circlecsupply.com/sk-terminal-crimping-pliers-9.html?gclid=CNz6oP7fldMCFRWewAodtv4I1A
I liked the sk green handles better because they stood out and were easy to spot.
https://www.zoro.com/sta-kon-crimpe...gclid=CIW9wLngldMCFY61wAodIdAFrw&gclsrc=aw.ds

I have all 3. The Sk and T&B seem to be identical. I just liked the green handles because they looked different from the other guys in the shop at the time. The SK and TB have a better cutter than the Klein IMHO.

WHO makes these??? I have a pair of Panduit crimpers, either CT-200 or CT-260, that are the same as these. I can't tell which version they are, the stamp is too faint/buggered up but they're 9-3/4" long with two green dipped handles.

 

[ihateminimumwage]

I use the Klein 1006 and Snap-on PWCS7CF. The Snap-ons are perfect for smaller gauge stuff and in tight spaces, the Kleins are great for slightly larger stuff and needing more leverage in a crimp.

 

[Treeman]

WHO makes these??? I have a pair of Panduit crimpers, either CT-200 or CT-260, that are the same as these. I can't tell which version they are, the stamp is too faint/buggered up but they're 9-3/4" long with two green dipped handles.

My notes indicate that the Panduit crimpers are Kleins. A very close look at them seems to confirm this.

 

[Z2V]

These have been my go to for as long as I can remember.

Long handle for good leverage, strip wire and cut bolts 6-32 thru 10-32

 

[royesses]

Thomas and Betts WT111M. Use for both insulated and non insulated terminals. Zorro sells them.

Roy

 

[ddawg16]

Another vote for the Klein.....

As for those combination strippers/crimpers....Z2V...once you use 'real strippers and a real crimper....you never go back. I've never seen a combi tool that does both well.

Besides the Klein....I have 2 different sizes of strippers...one for small wire down to 30g and one for larger stuff up to 8g. Anything larger and I'm using a knife....

 

[PelicanPines]

Astro pneumatic ratcheting here... many came before... none will replace.

 

[T45]

Crimpers are a bit of a Rabbit hole to dive into

- Multi-tool (Snap on, Klein) - the 1010 klein and pwcs7 are the better verision of this tool. Innumerable knock offs. Most are **** at crimping, but will work with some finesse/elbow grease. Better than nothing and good for portable kits.

- Basic (Stakon/T&&B, Klein, Ideal, Snap-On) 9 inch pliers type ($30+)
People have their preferences, but they are all about the same give or take. Alot better for doing more work than multi-tools. Bulkier than multi-tools, but half to 1/4 the cost of professional specialty tools.

- Advanced - (Greenlee/Palladin, Knipex/reinsteg, Presstek/molex/exelite) Ratcheting type with Die ($75+); Better versions range $75 up to $150. Dies are $30-50 extra for variaous types. These will do weatherproof/waterproof specialty stuff as well (a must for some applications). They are go-to for the tools sold by the connector companies, prices vary pretty dramatically.

- Aerospace/Certified - (Daniels, AMP,TE connectivity, etc ...)Don't ask, but there is a whole 'nother level of cost out there. When you really need the splice to work as engineered, these tools will repeatedly work for longer intervals wit consistent results.

 

[ishiboo]

Channellock 909. I have ratcheting crimpers, and a hydraulic set... and 99% of the time I reach for the 909s.

 

[Z2V]

As for those combination strippers/crimpers....Z2V...once you use 'real strippers and a real crimper....you never go back. I've never seen a combi tool that does both well..

Have you ever used these? LOL In the 38 years I worked I tried just about every one that others said was the best. I still use these. Made by Thomas Betts. I never saw the need to carry two tools when I could do the job with one. That's just my preference though.

 

[ddawg16]

Have you ever used these? LOL In the 38 years I worked I tried just about every one that others said was the best. I still use these. Made by Thomas Betts. I never saw the need to carry two tools when I could do the job with one. That's just my preference though.

Yup....that is why I hate them.......

I prefer the shorter stripper only style. I typically work in close quarters and the long ones just hinder me. I rarely use crimp on connectors so I don't see a reason to have a go to tool with a feature I rarely use. For crimping, I prefer my larger crimpers which does a much better job

But that is me.....

 

[skruft]

I think practically any quality tool will be fine for the small noninsulated terminals. The ones I use most are an old-style ratcheting T&B.

 

[rlitman]

I think practically any quality tool will be fine for the small noninsulated terminals. The ones I use most are an old-style ratcheting T&B.

Well, T&B makes good stuff, but there are plenty of crappy tools out there.
I have a Blue Point combination stripper/crimper that's a great stripper, but is worthless for crimping.

Keep in mind that copper requires more than 30,000 PSI to cold flow into an airtight crimp. If you section a good crimp, and look in a microscope, the ends of the originally round wires should all look kind of hexagonal.

 

[Brownsfan]

WHO makes these??? I have a pair of Panduit crimpers, either CT-200 or CT-260, that are the same as these. I can't tell which version they are, the stamp is too faint/buggered up but they're 9-3/4" long with two green dipped handles.

The 3 I linked are sk , Klein and Thomas and Betts. The SK and Thomas and Betts are almost identical other than the handle colors.

 

[Sine Swept]

Depending on the wire I have no problem stripping wire with 909's, just takes a little finesse.

 

[Duster346]

For non-insulated terminals I use these from Greenlee. No dies to mess with, no fuss, and a termination for life. I've had them for ten years and use them daily.

http://www.greenlee.com/products/CRIMPER--(FC22%40d6).html?product_id=19109

 

[DFB]

^^^ We often used these ratcheting types in the electronic assembly department I once supervised to ensure that the assembly line operators made a proper and solid connections.

 

[pstemari]

I hear you about the dies. I bought a second frame so I could crimp ferrules with one and crimp insulated terminals with the other.

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