bl00
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There was one in Florida on Craigslist a few years ago that was equiped like the patent drawings. It had the offset base like in the top right drawing, pipe/tube extensions, and removable jaws.
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There was one in Florida on Craigslist a few years ago that was equiped like the patent drawings. It had the offset base like in the top right drawing, pipe/tube extensions, and removable jaws.
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scooternut
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I hadn't broken out the Wilton magnet for a week or two...had to do something about that.
Picked up a Baby on a Powrarm that still has the original paint, and an NOS 500S that still has the packing grease on the slide.
Geez Bro, I hope you at least pay for these things, as you seem to manufacture them out of thin air. Good looking and clean stuff you have there.
Thank you to all for sending the data for the Odin vise. I will be looking for some of these parts and pieces.
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Shiftless
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G-man scores again
twertsy
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Gents, would you please take a look at the write-up for the New England Vise Co.? Any ideas on who the "Fitchburg" connection might be? I can't seem to dig it up but it is a VERY unique vise so one of you may have seen it with another name.
Some pics of the original Acton produced version located here.
Some pics of the original Acton produced version located here.
PghJKB
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I have Hoar as having four patents:
55656, 10 Jun 1966
61429, 22 Jan 1867
RE2606 14 May 1867, a re-issue of 55656
65081, 28 May 1867
All were variations of an offset vise. If I am reading it correctly, 65081 has a swivel jaw.
Fitchburg may take some time. References from that period are scarce.
JKB
twertsy
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Thanks for the patent refs! I'll add them straight away.
Perhaps the Fitchburg business was either Putnam Machine Co. or Putnam Tool Co?
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Cool! Right down the road from Athol....interested to see more about this vise
twertsy
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Right now, thanks to some folks here helping me out a bit, we are thinking this link to the Fitchburg Directory of 1878 may provide a clue as to which company took over for Hoar's patent vise production, C. S. Tolman.
va.grouseman
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There's a Hoar's Offset on page 361, post 7211 that is a swivel base but don't think it has the pivot channels like Twertsy's does.
But no additional info on the vise.---Sorry.
But no additional info on the vise.---Sorry.
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Bought a small woodworking vise that appears to be aluminum and made by The Elliott Mfg Co of Milford Conn. Has a cam quick release and all still works. See Pic 1-5.
Also got a Grip O Vise, which was odd enough that it had to come home as well. It is seen in the middle of pic 6 (with the pair of hand vises on one side).
Mike
Also got a Grip O Vise, which was odd enough that it had to come home as well. It is seen in the middle of pic 6 (with the pair of hand vises on one side).
Mike
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bagged89s10
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Check out this vise made from a piece of train track. Awesome work.
vintage nut
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Started a game of musical vises with some added painting. Little guy got displaced from his long time home by a new immigrant, and looked so sad sitting on the floor. Decided to repaint him to match his benchmate and boot one of the others off to give his home back.
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joe.striper
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Finally picked up my Athol No.3 today. It is a miniaturized version of a full scale Athol. 1.5" jaws.
Its missing the base but you can see it started life as a real bench vise. I was concerned it might have been a cut down clamp-on vise.
Anyone have one so I can get a pic of a base?
Its missing the base but you can see it started life as a real bench vise. I was concerned it might have been a cut down clamp-on vise.
Anyone have one so I can get a pic of a base?
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trijeff
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Nice one, Joe! But don't be hatin' on the cutoffs ... here is a Stanley Jersey 742 I've been workin' on. Using a marine grade enamel I did the canoe with and first time painting a vise with a brush. Lots of learning lessons and work to go but getting there. This is ultimately going to be my business card holder. Clamp didn't have enough clearance to fit on any of my benches, so finally decided to do something "useful" with this one. Definitely foresee myself playing with it while on conference calls 
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vintage nut
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I've always liked using a brush for vises, and castings in general. I thin the paint substantially with lacquer thinner. I find it not only helps it lay down nicer, but it also cures harder and to a more durable finish. And it dries quicker.
It's surprising how much roughness in a casting can be made to disappear with a brush.
Good brushes are the key though. Nothing is more infuriating than having bristles coming off all over your vise
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It's surprising how much roughness in a casting can be made to disappear with a brush.
Good brushes are the key though. Nothing is more infuriating than having bristles coming off all over your vise
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vintage nut
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I should apparently take some of my own advice
Couldn't resist the $5 pack of artist brushes at the tool store... Bristles falling out everywhere
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Couldn't resist the $5 pack of artist brushes at the tool store... Bristles falling out everywhere
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vintage nut
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A few more general bits of advice I'll add. Thinning the paint is personal preference how far you go, I like it rather thin. About like the warm syrup you'd get in a pancake restaurant.
After sitting thinned long enough (months/years) the paint seems to change somehow and won't really mix back together. I like using something like an old jam jar to mix a couple tablespoons at a time. It goes a very long way, a tablespoon of two of paint, thinned will do probably half a dozen vises.
Other than that it's basically just play around with thinning and your brush technique until you find what works best for you.
I do my lettering with a brush as well. One shot sign painter's/pinstriping paint in metallic gold to be specific. The most over priced paint I've ever seen, but it looks nice.
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After sitting thinned long enough (months/years) the paint seems to change somehow and won't really mix back together. I like using something like an old jam jar to mix a couple tablespoons at a time. It goes a very long way, a tablespoon of two of paint, thinned will do probably half a dozen vises.
Other than that it's basically just play around with thinning and your brush technique until you find what works best for you.
I do my lettering with a brush as well. One shot sign painter's/pinstriping paint in metallic gold to be specific. The most over priced paint I've ever seen, but it looks nice.
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Provincial
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Glass baby food jars have always been a favorite for small batches of paint. Sign painters brushes should not "shed."
bagged89s10
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I bought penetrol to try thinning with but still haven't tried it.
Has anyone thinned rustoleum hanmered or hannerite paint before applying with a brush?
twertsy
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All,
This morning I built (using the advise of JoeStriper) a vise upload form for toolarchives. I designed it so that ultimately, we will be able to compare and contrast examples, search out "similar" vises to help in identification, and document all the different models made by the various vise manufacturers.
Many of you have asked for this, particularly with the demise of dayid. So, take a look, please comment on the fields..........what's missing, what you don't need, etc. Pay close attention to the instructions underneath each field.
As you folks upload vises, I will be creating specialized views that will automatically place the correct vises under the correct manufacturers/brand. I just don't have time to do that right now but I'll get to it.
This morning I built (using the advise of JoeStriper) a vise upload form for toolarchives. I designed it so that ultimately, we will be able to compare and contrast examples, search out "similar" vises to help in identification, and document all the different models made by the various vise manufacturers.
Many of you have asked for this, particularly with the demise of dayid. So, take a look, please comment on the fields..........what's missing, what you don't need, etc. Pay close attention to the instructions underneath each field.
As you folks upload vises, I will be creating specialized views that will automatically place the correct vises under the correct manufacturers/brand. I just don't have time to do that right now but I'll get to it.
Outlawmws
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I'm not sure thinning Hammered is a good idea as you get the best effect laid on thick...
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rmalkow2
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That was a pretty awesome piece of work and a good looking end result.
Now for a slightly different approach to making a vise check this video out. Pay special attention to the jaw inserts and the final quality control testing at the end of the video.
vintage nut
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Baby food jars would be perfect, I just use jam jars because I have them.
And they definitely shouldn't.... But that's what happens when you have a moment of weakness and buy a pack of 12 for about half of what one good brush costs....
I'm probably going to toss the rest out, and buy a pair of the good sign painter's brushes again. Local tool store sells Mack pinstriping and sign painting brushes. German badger hair. Those things better not drop bristles....
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CrotalusAtrox
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Lately I've been having a lot of discussions with folks trying to figure out what size vise they need, so I took a couple of pictures, and wrote an article about it. Most folks here already know this stuff, but there are a lot of folks that use this site/thread as a reference, so I thought it might be fitting to include here.
Besides, I think the picture is pretty cool...I'm still searching for a 2.5" and 8" bullet to fill in the gaps! Left to right: 2", 3", 3.5", 4", 4.5", 5" and 6".
The article (let me know if you spot any errors or omissions): http://mivise.com/bench-vise-size-considerations/
No pride of authorship here...just trying to put out good info
Besides, I think the picture is pretty cool...I'm still searching for a 2.5" and 8" bullet to fill in the gaps! Left to right: 2", 3", 3.5", 4", 4.5", 5" and 6".
The article (let me know if you spot any errors or omissions): http://mivise.com/bench-vise-size-considerations/
No pride of authorship here...just trying to put out good info
Outlawmws
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Found a Charles Parker 974 today at an estate sale they were asking $10....sold
well don't you just **** a bunch!
damnesia
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Lately I've been having a lot of discussions with folks trying to figure out what size vise they need, so I took a couple of pictures, and wrote an article about it. Most folks here already know this stuff, but there are a lot of folks that use this site/thread as a reference, so I thought it might be fitting to include here.
Besides, I think the picture is pretty cool...I'm still searching for a 2.5" and 8" bullet to fill in the gaps! Left to right: 2", 3", 3.5", 4", 4.5", 5" and 6".
The article (let me know if you spot any errors or omissions): http://mivise.com/bench-vise-size-considerations/
No pride of authorship here...just trying to put out good info
Now that is a pretty picture!
I think this is a rock island that I picked up today. 3.5" jaws that open 6" wide. I think it's a rock island based off swivel lock and handle and the confusing number system. It says "No. 122" on the static jaw but says "132" on the dynamic jaw. Having a hard time finding info in either of those numbers.
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OCD
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Some would maybe say overkill, fortunately I don't have that gene!!
Back to back babes,
To be honest, I thought the 5" machinist vise would be half the size it is... I wanted it for my welding table vise stand but it is too big... Lol... So I just mounted it on my bench top...
Here's a lol for you,
Grade 8 bolts in wood, guess it's time for a new steel bench!!
I am going to paint my old 3" and 5" chinese Mastercraft vises Snap On green,
Back to back babes,
To be honest, I thought the 5" machinist vise would be half the size it is... I wanted it for my welding table vise stand but it is too big... Lol... So I just mounted it on my bench top...
Here's a lol for you,
Grade 8 bolts in wood, guess it's time for a new steel bench!!
I am going to paint my old 3" and 5" chinese Mastercraft vises Snap On green,
oldldh
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Here's a lol for you,
Grade 8 bolts in wood, guess it's time for a new steel bench!!
You don't need a metal bench...
You just need a couple of more layers of 3/4" ply/mdf/???...
And...
Grade 8 bolts 1 1/2" longer...
(By the way, your 5" Machinist vise, isn't --- a Machinists vise, it is a Combination Vise, hence the pipe jaws...See the photo of a 500 Machinist Vise vs 1755 Tradesman vise --- Huge difference!!!)
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Hi all,
New here, and putting together a more serious workspace. My grandpas 3 1/2 inch Wilton Shop King on my workbench vise is not quite up to the task of holding bicycle tubes while I hack and file on them. Does this look like a decent set up? My research here and googling says this is an Allied 5 inch Multi Purpose. It might do a nice job of holding the tubes while brazing too. The stand looks substantial at least. He is asking 160.
It's been nabbed
New here, and putting together a more serious workspace. My grandpas 3 1/2 inch Wilton Shop King on my workbench vise is not quite up to the task of holding bicycle tubes while I hack and file on them. Does this look like a decent set up? My research here and googling says this is an Allied 5 inch Multi Purpose. It might do a nice job of holding the tubes while brazing too. The stand looks substantial at least. He is asking 160.
It's been nabbed
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CrotalusAtrox
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Lately I've been having a lot of discussions with folks trying to figure out what size vise they need, so I took a couple of pictures, and wrote an article about it. Most folks here already know this stuff, but there are a lot of folks that use this site/thread as a reference, so I thought it might be fitting to include here.
Besides, I think the picture is pretty cool...I'm still searching for a 2.5" and 8" bullet to fill in the gaps! Left to right: 2", 3", 3.5", 4", 4.5", 5" and 6".
The article (let me know if you spot any errors or omissions): http://mivise.com/bench-vise-size-considerations/
No pride of authorship here...just trying to put out good info
Great comparison
OCD
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Lately I've been having a lot of discussions with folks trying to figure out what size vise they need, so I took a couple of pictures, and wrote an article about it. Most folks here already know this stuff, but there are a lot of folks that use this site/thread as a reference, so I thought it might be fitting to include here.
No pride of authorship here...just trying to put out good info
The article and pics were really great!! Thank you for putting that together!!